Discussion: Legalizing Marijuana

[CelticPredator]

I think the law should be more like the laws on alcohol.

Smoke and drive, Go to jail.

I smoke weed alot but I NEVER drive after smoking. I get done what I need to do with the car first, Then after everything is done and I have nothing to do but watch TV, That's when I smoke.

People drive fine whilst stoned. I've been with many many people high in a car, and none of them crashed or anything....heck, a cop gave my friend a sober test, and he passed. Yet was stoned out of his mind.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

It does slow your reactions down though.

Just a bit of bad luck, someone pulls out in front of ya, too slow to react, game over.

 

[CelticPredator]

True. But it's not as bad as booze.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Oh yea no way.

 

[Kelly]

People drive fine whilst stoned. I've been with many many people high in a car, and none of them crashed or anything....heck, a cop gave my friend a sober test, and he passed. Yet was stoned out of his mind.

And all I can say about that is......that is a very stupid thing for you to do.

 

[CelticPredator]

Ok. I'll just stay where ever I am, and hope someone picks me up?

No....it's really not that bad. Have you drove with someone high before?

 

[Manic]

Take a cab or catch the bus. Even drunks found methods of getting around without driving.

 

[Kelly]

Yes, I was 15, and my cousin who was 16 was with friends, smoking pot at the lake. Had I been smarter, I would have called family to come pick me up.....but I wasn't smart.

I also sang at the funeral of 2 17 year olds that were killed in a car accident, after both had been smoking at their friends house. One of them was cut in half.....from the impact. Thankfully the person in the other car did not die. Had he been smarter, he probably would have called family or friends to come get him as well.

Getting in the car with someone under the influence is STUPID, no matter how you look at it. And that would not change had I NEVER been in a car with someone smoking pot. Stupid is stupid.

 

[Paradoxium]

They had cars back in those days




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[Kelly]

hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......

absolutely....

 

[Fading]

I'm for the legalizing of pot as I've said once or twice before in this thread, but driving while impared by any substance is stupid, and endangers you and anyone else on the road. I don't want to sound like an after school special, but ppl always say there's no harm in it, then get in an accident and wished they would have wised up earlier. A perfectly sober, excellent driver can have a wreck, smoking/drinking and driving 10 mins later is asking for someone to get hurt or die. Mindsets like that are why so many ppl have wrecks drunk driving. A person may think they're ok to drive, but is it fair to bet someone else's life on that?

BTW I haven't lost anyone to this, if I came off strong it's because ppl willingly doing something selfish and stupid that risks the lives of themselves and others pisses me off.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yes, I was 15, and my cousin who was 16 was with friends, smoking pot at the lake. Had I been smarter, I would have called family to come pick me up.....but I wasn't smart.

I also sang at the funeral of 2 17 year olds that were killed in a car accident, after both had been smoking at their friends house. One of them was cut in half.....from the impact. Thankfully the person in the other car did not die. Had he been smarter, he probably would have called family or friends to come get him as well.

Getting in the car with someone under the influence is STUPID, no matter how you look at it. And that would not change had I NEVER been in a car with someone smoking pot. Stupid is stupid.

How do you know them being stoned had any real effect on the crash though?

 

[Kelly]

I believe the coroner pretty much made that assessment, along with the numerous eye witnesses.

Wow, you really just asked that question.........amazing.

 

[Marx]

No question or comment really surprises me when it comes from Ace.

 

[Kelly]

true....

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I believe the coroner pretty much made that assessment, along with the n

umerous eye witnesses.

Wow, you really just asked that question.........amazing.

What? It's a valid question.

So because someone has a crash and they are stoned, it HAS to be because they were stoned? Is that what you are saying?

No other reason for the crash? It wasn't just bad luck? It wasn't the other drivers fault? It wasn't a divet in the road? It wasn't a bunch of other common cause for crashes? It DEFINITELY was JUST because they were stoned?

Wow, and you're trying to make out I'm stupid.

 

[Matt]

There are clinical studies that prove being high can impair your driving. While it may not have been the reason for the crash, being clean may have improved his reflexes or response times and saved his life.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Oh I'm not denying that. I even mentioned in a post earlier that it does effect your reactions.

But to automatically assume a crash happened JUST because they were stoned is pretty ignorant I think.

Sure it might have been because they were stoned. But to be like "They crashed because they were stoned, no doubt, 100%, no question" is well, stupid.

 

[Kelly]

What? It's a valid question.

So because someone has a crash and they are stoned, it HAS to be because they were stoned? Is that what you are saying?

No other reason for the crash? It wasn't just bad luck? It wasn't the other drivers fault? It wasn't a divet in the road? It wasn't a bunch of other common cause for crashes? It DEFINITELY was JUST because they were stoned?

Wow, and you're trying to make out I'm stupid.

No, the investigation of the crash, ruled that it was the fault of the teen driving, and that his DUI was a cause. Apparently the courts thought so as well, because the guy in the other car got a hell of a settlement out of it.

Pretty sad all the way around.

Most car crashes where alcohol, drugs, etc were a part of it......are usually found to be a contributing factor. Not a major question there....

I think my shock is that you are actually trying to debate whether it is dumb or not to drive under the influence...and I just don't see the room for debate. It is stupid to drive under the influence. Plain and simple. No debate, it is dumb.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

No, the investigation of the crash, ruled that it was the fault of the teen driving, and that his DUI was a cause. Apparently the courts thought so as well, because the guy in the other car got a hell of a settlement out of it.

Pretty sad all the way around.

Most car crashes where alcohol, drugs, etc were a part of it......are usually found to be a contributing factor. Not a major question there....

I think my shock is that you are actually trying to debate whether it is dumb or not to drive under the influence...and I just don't see the room for debate. It is stupid to drive under the influence. Plain and simple. No debate, it is dumb.

Huh? When did I ever question that? I didn't. I DO think it is dumb to drive under the influence. Way to jump to conclusions just coz you don't like me.

I was just asking because I thought you was just ASSUMING they crashed JUST because they were stoned. That's all.

 

[Marx]

Drugs and alcohol are ALWAYS contributing factors whenever they are involved.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

You can't be 100% certain of that I don't think.

As I said, it could just be bad luck, a divet in the road, another ******** driver pulling out in front of and not looking, a fault with the car.

Those sorta things don't care if you are sober as a judge or pissed/stoned out of your trolly.

 

[Manic]

Oh, for god's sake. Don't use stuff that makes your brain function noticably differently from normal and then drive. That means alcohol, weed, cough syrup. I've even heard that it might not be a good idea to consume caffeine and drive at the same time if caffeine gives you that certain rush that changes the way you react to stuff.

 

[Master Chief]

The impairment can still factor in though. Mayhaps if a driver were sober he would have been more focused and his reaction time would have been quicker and blah blah blah, you can never be 100% certain of anything but being impaired leaves you more prone to an accident.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

What if there was this guy, stoned up, driving down the road, all of a sudden his wheels fall off, he crashes and dies.

But wait! He was stoned! That MUST factor into the crash!

...no.

Again I'm not saying driving whilst impaired is right, I'm saying it's ****ing stupid. The example I gave is extreme I know, but some people I imagine do think like that. And they are, well, to put it lightly, wrong.