Discussion: Legalizing Marijuana

[Cyrusbales]

well my brother smokes a joint every mornign before going off to work at the local secondary school, then has another when he gets home, then goes out and gets drunk and high at night, then gets up and does it the next day.

He used to be a theoretical physisist sorta guy, had a paper on dark matter that would have been published if he didn't go a little 'off the rails'. So I have seen first hand what it does, I'm not really a great advocat of it, although it's all choice really. I don't like people smoking near me as it is, other than, it's fine.

Also, constant drug abuse(abuse, interesting word for it) has been proven to 'rewire' your brain and change the way in which your brain processes information and thought patterns etc...

 

[DorkyFresh]

well my brother smokes a joint every mornign before going off to work at the local secondary school, then has another when he gets home, then goes out and gets drunk and high at night, then gets up and does it the next day.

He used to be a theoretical physisist sorta guy, had a paper on dark matter that would have been published if he didn't go a little 'off the rails'. So I have seen first hand what it does,

sorry to hear about your bro but i have a question and please don't take offense. was he serious about his work? i know he was serious enough to have had that paper published had he not gotten derailed, but did it seem like something he had a drive for?

 

[PLAS]

* At the Drive-In - U.S. American post-Hardcore band. Under the influence while recording Acrobatic Tenement.
* Billie Joe Armstrong - Vocalist-guitarist of Green Day. Wrote songs about using marijuana ("Longview"). In high school he sold joints for two dollars each, earning him the nickname "Two-Dollar Bill". Green Day means smoking weed all day.
* Louis Armstrong - Arrested in 1931 for possession, according to his 1971 autobiography. Fond of "muggles" all through his career.
* The Beatles - Symbols of 1960s drug use.
* Jack Black - Actor, musician (Tenacious D). Promotes legalizing marijuana, referring to opponents as "old ****ing shrivs" in the song "City Hall". Nominated for High Times' "Stoner of the Year". [8]
* Ian Brown - Singer, former frontman of The Stone Roses. Regularly smoked before performing.
* Manu Chao - World music icon, promotes legalizing marijuana, often sings Lalo Guerrero's song 'Marijuana Boogie' in concert.
* Dave Chappelle - Wrote and starred in the stoner film Half Baked, performed various weed-related skits on Chappelle's Show, and said he used the drug in his personal life. Recently (2006?) said he quit.
* Tommy Chong - He and Cheech Marin are the infamous stoner duo Cheech and Chong for the "cannabis culture" films. Still smoking.
* Bill Clinton - The U.S. President claimed he tried it but "never inhaled".
* George Clinton - Funk bands Parliament and Funkadelic. Legalization activist.
* Kurt Cobain - Used cannabis, among other drugs.
* Joe Cocker - At Woodstock he sang "Let's Go Get Stoned".
* Tre Cool - Drummer for Green Day. Supports legalization.
* Cypress Hill - The group sings pro-cannabis songs.
* Bob Denver - Actor. "Gilligan" on Gilligan's Island. Spent his later years using cannabis and raising goldfish.[9]
* Snoop Dogg - Rapper. Often smokes on stage, in his car, and on TV appearances. Has a room in his home for weed smoking, known as the Green Room. He claimed to have quit in 2003, only to relapse after 4 months.
* Dr. Dre - Rapper. Album The Chronic, which is a slang term for cannabis. His single "The Next Episode" popularized the phrase "Hey, hey, hey, hey, smoke weed every day."
* Bob Dylan - Singer-songwriter. Introduced the drug to the Beatles. Wrote the song Rainy Day Women #12 and 35, the chorus of which is a jubilant "But I would not feel so all alone. Everybody must get stoned!"
* The Game - A rapper who smokes in the studio. Has referred to the drug in songs.
* Allen Ginsberg - U.S. American Beat poet. Said "Pot is fun!" and "I smoke marijuana every chance I get."
* Gary Hall Jr. - Swimmer. Tested positive for cannabis in 1996, though THC was not yet banned. In 1998, he was suspended for three months. At the 2000 Olympics, he said he was clean and would never smoke again.
* Woody Harrelson - Pro-hemp activist; claims both recreational and meditative purposes. Narrated Grass, a film about the history of marijuana. Is a member of NORML.
* Prince Harry of Britain. After some controversy, was persuaded to stop.
* Jimi Hendrix - The guitarist-singer smoked on stage and in his limousine.
* Timothy Leary - U.S. American psychologist, 1960s counterculture icon, and campaigner for psychedelic drugs ("Turn on!"). Gave up smoking for medical reasons; ate the drug in Leary Biscuits.
* Ludacris - Atlanta, Georgia, rapper. Claims to smoke a large amount. Released "Blueberry Yum Yum," an ode to a strain of cannabis. Its video features him in a greenhouse smoking two "mega joints."
* Bill Maher - Comedian. NORML's Advisory Board. Frequently alludes to his smoking in HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher.
* Bob Marley - As a Rastafari, he defended cannabis, which he used as a sacrament. It is in many of his songs. On the cover of Catch a Fire, he smokes a large spliff.
* Rosa Meriläinen - Finnish politician. Confessed to having used when a representative.
* Method Man and Redman - Smoking weed abounds in their lyrics. "Method" is in the hip-hop collective Wu-Tang Clan who, except Ghostface, who stopped, smoke marijuana. The pair were in a commercial for St. Ide's. Made a comedic stoner flick, How High.
* George Michael - The pop icon claims to smoke too much.
* Robert Mitchum - American actor and singer. He used cannabis in the late 1940s and was the first Hollywood actor arrested for possession[10]. Smoked tobacco also.
* Mo Mowlam - Popular U.K. politician, said (parodying Bill Clinton) that she tried it and inhaled.
* Willie Nelson - NORML. They call him "America's most beloved marijuana smoker". His tour bus had an ashtray with several joints, live cannabis plants, and garbage bags full of the drug. [11]
* Bradley Nowell - Lead singer and guitarist for Sublime. Showed his love for cannabis in the song "Smoke Two Joints" on the album 40 oz. to Freedom.
* Ed O'Brien - British guitarist in Radiohead. Stoned while recording The Bends.
* Sean Paul - With Busta Rhymes, sang Gimme the Light, about cannabis.
* Carl Sagan - The scientist was an avid user of marijuana, though not admitted publicly. Under the pseudonym "Mr. X", he wrote about cannabis in Marihuana Reconsidered. In his essay, Sagan commented that marijuana encouraged some of his works and enhanced experiences. That was in his 1999 biography, stirring some attention. Sagan's widow, Ann Druyan, is a director of NORML.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger - Smoked a blunt after winning the Mr Olympia title in the movie Pumping Iron.
* Sarah Silverman - claims to smoke at least four days a week.
* Howard Stern - Said to have smoked pot in high school, then wrote against it in his book Miss America.
* Hunter S. Thompson - In Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, he described his extreme use of cannabis and other drugs.
* Peter Tosh - Rastafari musician; wrote Legalise It; smoked on stage and was beaten by the police for it.
* Montel Williams - Advocate for medicinal cannabis, which he uses for multiple sclerosis.

 

[Cyrusbales]

sorry to hear about your bro but i have a question and please don't take offense. was he serious about his work? i know he was serious enough to have had that paper published had he not gotten derailed, but did it seem like something he had a drive for?

He was very interested, still keeps in touch with the whole thing, but not to the same extent, he seems to think everything is a conspiracy and designhed to screw other people over.

He was still a student when his paper attracted attention etc, he dropped out of uni for a life of unemployment and drugs. Now he works at a school.

He accepted an unconditional offer to study theoretical physics and stuff, so he was pretty serious! I don't take offense, so don't worry.

I hope that answers your question? Anything else?

 

[Fried Gold]

* At the Drive-In - U.S. American post-Hardcore band. Under the influence while recording Acrobatic Tenement.
* Billie Joe Armstrong - Vocalist-guitarist of Green Day. Wrote songs about using marijuana ("Longview"). In high school he sold joints for two dollars each, earning him the nickname "Two-Dollar Bill". Green Day means smoking weed all day.
* Louis Armstrong - Arrested in 1931 for possession, according to his 1971 autobiography. Fond of "muggles" all through his career.
* The Beatles - Symbols of 1960s drug use.
* Jack Black - Actor, musician (Tenacious D). Promotes legalizing marijuana, referring to opponents as "old ****ing shrivs" in the song "City Hall". Nominated for High Times' "Stoner of the Year". [8]
* Ian Brown - Singer, former frontman of The Stone Roses. Regularly smoked before performing.
* Manu Chao - World music icon, promotes legalizing marijuana, often sings Lalo Guerrero's song 'Marijuana Boogie' in concert.
* Dave Chappelle - Wrote and starred in the stoner film Half Baked, performed various weed-related skits on Chappelle's Show, and said he used the drug in his personal life. Recently (2006?) said he quit.
* Tommy Chong - He and Cheech Marin are the infamous stoner duo Cheech and Chong for the "cannabis culture" films. Still smoking.
* Bill Clinton - The U.S. President claimed he tried it but "never inhaled".
* George Clinton - Funk bands Parliament and Funkadelic. Legalization activist.
* Kurt Cobain - Used cannabis, among other drugs.
* Joe Cocker - At Woodstock he sang "Let's Go Get Stoned".
* Tre Cool - Drummer for Green Day. Supports legalization.
* Cypress Hill - The group sings pro-cannabis songs.
* Bob Denver - Actor. "Gilligan" on Gilligan's Island. Spent his later years using cannabis and raising goldfish.[9]
* Snoop Dogg - Rapper. Often smokes on stage, in his car, and on TV appearances. Has a room in his home for weed smoking, known as the Green Room. He claimed to have quit in 2003, only to relapse after 4 months.
* Dr. Dre - Rapper. Album The Chronic, which is a slang term for cannabis. His single "The Next Episode" popularized the phrase "Hey, hey, hey, hey, smoke weed every day."
* Bob Dylan - Singer-songwriter. Introduced the drug to the Beatles. Wrote the song Rainy Day Women #12 and 35, the chorus of which is a jubilant "But I would not feel so all alone. Everybody must get stoned!"
* The Game - A rapper who smokes in the studio. Has referred to the drug in songs.
* Allen Ginsberg - U.S. American Beat poet. Said "Pot is fun!" and "I smoke marijuana every chance I get."
* Gary Hall Jr. - Swimmer. Tested positive for cannabis in 1996, though THC was not yet banned. In 1998, he was suspended for three months. At the 2000 Olympics, he said he was clean and would never smoke again.
* Woody Harrelson - Pro-hemp activist; claims both recreational and meditative purposes. Narrated Grass, a film about the history of marijuana. Is a member of NORML.
* Prince Harry of Britain. After some controversy, was persuaded to stop.
* Jimi Hendrix - The guitarist-singer smoked on stage and in his limousine.
* Timothy Leary - U.S. American psychologist, 1960s counterculture icon, and campaigner for psychedelic drugs ("Turn on!"). Gave up smoking for medical reasons; ate the drug in Leary Biscuits.
* Ludacris - Atlanta, Georgia, rapper. Claims to smoke a large amount. Released "Blueberry Yum Yum," an ode to a strain of cannabis. Its video features him in a greenhouse smoking two "mega joints."
* Bill Maher - Comedian. NORML's Advisory Board. Frequently alludes to his smoking in HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher.
* Bob Marley - As a Rastafari, he defended cannabis, which he used as a sacrament. It is in many of his songs. On the cover of Catch a Fire, he smokes a large spliff.
* Rosa Meriläinen - Finnish politician. Confessed to having used when a representative.
* Method Man and Redman - Smoking weed abounds in their lyrics. "Method" is in the hip-hop collective Wu-Tang Clan who, except Ghostface, who stopped, smoke marijuana. The pair were in a commercial for St. Ide's. Made a comedic stoner flick, How High.
* George Michael - The pop icon claims to smoke too much.
* Robert Mitchum - American actor and singer. He used cannabis in the late 1940s and was the first Hollywood actor arrested for possession[10]. Smoked tobacco also.
* Mo Mowlam - Popular U.K. politician, said (parodying Bill Clinton) that she tried it and inhaled.
* Willie Nelson - NORML. They call him "America's most beloved marijuana smoker". His tour bus had an ashtray with several joints, live cannabis plants, and garbage bags full of the drug. [11]
* Bradley Nowell - Lead singer and guitarist for Sublime. Showed his love for cannabis in the song "Smoke Two Joints" on the album 40 oz. to Freedom.
* Ed O'Brien - British guitarist in Radiohead. Stoned while recording The Bends.
* Sean Paul - With Busta Rhymes, sang Gimme the Light, about cannabis.
* Carl Sagan - The scientist was an avid user of marijuana, though not admitted publicly. Under the pseudonym "Mr. X", he wrote about cannabis in Marihuana Reconsidered. In his essay, Sagan commented that marijuana encouraged some of his works and enhanced experiences. That was in his 1999 biography, stirring some attention. Sagan's widow, Ann Druyan, is a director of NORML.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger - Smoked a blunt after winning the Mr Olympia title in the movie Pumping Iron.
* Sarah Silverman - claims to smoke at least four days a week.
* Howard Stern - Said to have smoked pot in high school, then wrote against it in his book Miss America.
* Hunter S. Thompson - In Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, he described his extreme use of cannabis and other drugs.
* Peter Tosh - Rastafari musician; wrote Legalise It; smoked on stage and was beaten by the police for it.
* Montel Williams - Advocate for medicinal cannabis, which he uses for multiple sclerosis.

Nice list, but who knows what awesome **** they could've come up with sans drug usage. I'll guess we'll never know.

 

[PLAS]

Nice list, but who knows what awesome **** they could've come up with sans drug usage. I'll guess we'll never know.

just a little example:

listen to The Beatles before they met Dylan, and all the stuff they created afterwards... Please, Please Me is in no way better than Sgt Pepper, is it?

not to mention comparing Pablo Honey to The Bends

 

[Fried Gold]

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[Fried Gold]

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James McCallum Bronson - stepson of actor Charles Bronson, drug overdose.
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Malcolm Owen - singer, lyricist of the Ruts, heroin overdose.
Marco Pantani - cyclist, Tour de France winner; acute cocaine intoxication.
Charlie Parker - jazz musician; the official cause of death was (lobar) pneumonia and a bleeding ulcer, his death was hastened by his drug and alcohol abuse
Robert Pastorelli - American television actor, heroin overdose.
Gram Parsons - country musician, of the Byrds and the Flying Burrito Brothers, overdose, purportedly of morphine and tequila.
Joe Pass - jazz musician.
Jon-Jon Paulos - musician, the Buckinghams.
Chris Penn (40) - Brother of Actor Sean Penn, heart disease and prescription drugs.
Art Pepper - jazz musician.
Chris Pettiet (24) - American actor, accidential drug overdose.
Jack Pickford (36) - American actor, syphilis & alcohol and drug abuse.
Kristen Pfaff - musician, ex-member of Hole, heroin overdose.
Esther Phillips - musician, singer, liver and kidney failue due to alcohol and heroin dependency.
John Phillips - musician, of the Mamas and the Papas, heart failure due to lifetime of alcohol and narcotics abuse.
River Phoenix (23) - actor, overdose of heroin and cocaine (speedball).
Jeffrey Lee Pierce (37) - musician, the Gun Club.
Rob Pilatus (32) - musician, Milli Vanilli, drug overdose.
Dana Plato (34) - actress, of Diff'rent Strokes, suicide - overdose of Vanadom and Vicodin.
Jackson Pollock (44) - American painter; killed in a single-car accident while driving drunk.
Elvis Presley (42) - singer, heart attack brought on by overdose of barbiturates.
Freddie Prinze (22) - comic, actor (Chico and the Man), self-inflicted gunshot wound while under the influence of Quaaludes.
Robert Quine - musician, guitar player, Richard Hell & the Voidoids, suicide by heroin overdose.
Glenn Quinn (32) - actor, heroin overdose.
Carl Radle (37) - bass guitarist, Derek and the Dominos, Eric Clapton, kidney disease due to long term narcotics and alcohol abuse
Dee Dee Ramone - musician, the Ramones, heroin overdose.
James Ray - singer, drug overdose.
Johnnie Ray - musician, liver failure caused by alcoholism.
Wallace Reid - actor, flu caused by morphine addiction.
Jimmy Reilly (17) - musician, Watertower West and Tony And The Tigers, heroin and alcohol overdose.
Elis Regina (36) - Brazilian singer, drug interaction.
Rob Graves Ritter - musician, Thelonius Monster, Gun Club, the Bags, 45 Grave.
Rachel Roberts - British actress - barbiturate overdose (suicide).
Andy Rogers - musician, bassist with Johnny Cash, heroin overdose.
Peter Rosen - musician, War.
Alma Rubens - actress, flu caused by heroin addiction.
Michael Rudetsky - musician, keyboardist, Culture Club, heroin overdose.
David Ruffin - musician, the Temptations, drug overdose.
George Sanders - British actor, baribituates overdose (suicide).
Joe Schermie - musician, Three Dog Night, heart attack resulting from long-term drug abuse
Bon Scott - musician, AC/DC, aspiration brought on by alcohol intoxication.
Jean Seberg - actress.
Jason Sears - musician, Rich Kids on LSD, treatment with natural drugs.
Edie Sedgwick - actress.
Nerine Shatner - wife of actor William Shatner, drowned in swimming pool while intoxicated and with traces of valium in bloodstream.
Bobby Sheehan - musician, Blues Traveler, drug overdose.
Eric Show - baseball player, cocaine and heroin overdose (speedball).
Pavlos Sidiropoulos - Greek rock musician, heroin overdose.
Judee Sill - folk musician, heroin overdose.
Don Simpson - film producer, heart attack, reports of 20 drugs in his body at time of death.
Hillel Slovak (26) - musician, Red Hot Chili Peppers, heroin overdose.
Davey Boy Smith (39) - British professional wrestler, heart attack - steroid abuse may have contributed.
Freddy Soto - comedian, writer and actor, mixture of alcohol, Xanax® and fentanyl.
Epic Soundtracks - musician, Swell Maps.
Louie Spicolli - American professional wrestler, choked on vomit after drugs and alcohol overdose.
Layne Staley (34) - musician, Alice in Chains, cocaine and heroin overdose (speedball).
Joey Stefano (26) - pornographic actor, overdose of cocaine, morphine, heroin and ketamine.
Inger Stevens - American actress, suicide - overdose of sleeping pills.
Rory Storm - musician, suicide - sleeping pills overdose.
Margaret Sullavan (48) - American actress, deliberate barbiturate overdose.
Paige Summers - American pornographic model & actress, drug overdose.
Screaming Lord Sutch - singer and politician, suicide following Prozac overdose.
Vinnie Taylor - musician, Sha Na Na, heroin overdose.
Gary Thain - musician, Uriah Heep, drug overdose.
Jason Thirsk (28) - musician, Pennywise, suicide after depression and alcoholism treatment.
Jotie T'Hooft - poet, drug overdose, suicide.
Johnny Thunders - musician, the New York Dolls, alcohol and methadone poisoning.
Dylan Thomas - poet, chronic alcoholism.
Georg Trakl - playwright, cocaine overdose.
D. M. Turner (34) - author/psychonaut , drowned in a bathtub while on ketamine.
Stu Ungar (45) - Three-time World Series of Poker Main Event winner, heart condition caused by long-term cocaine abuse.
Enrique Urquijo - Spanish singer, drug overdose.
Townes Van Zandt - folk musician.
Lupe Vélez, actress, secobarbital overdose (suicide).
Sid Vicious (21) - musician, the Sex Pistols, heroin overdose, disputed suicide
Gene Vincent - rock and roll musician, liver damage caused by alcohol.
Robert Hudson Walker, actor, died suddenly after being administered sodium amytal by his doctor.
Shelby Walker, (31) - American female boxer and Martial Arts fighter, apparent medicine overdose.
Jeremy Michael Ward, musician, The Mars Volta, apparent heroin overdose.
Dinah Washington, musician, overdose of diet pills and alcohol .
Rachel Whitear - British student, heroin overdose led to large-scale anti-drugs press campaign in Britain.
Brett Whiteley, artist, heroin overdose.
Keith Whitley, country musician, alcohol poisoning.
Danny Whitten - musician, Crazy Horse, drug overdose or drugs with alcohol (disputed).
Alan Wilson - musician, Canned Heat, drug overdose (possible suicide).
Dennis Wilson (39) - musician, The Beach Boys, alcohol-related drowning
Hank Williams, musician, drugs and probably alcohol.
Kenneth Williams (62) - actor, author and comedian of Carry On fame, overdose of barbiturates (accidental or suicide).
Linda Wong - pornographic actress, overdose on Xanax, chlorlhydrate and alcohol.
Andrew Wood - musician, Mother Love Bone, heroin overdose.
Anna Wood (15) - Australian schoolgirl, cerebral edema, caused by water intoxication and resultant hyponatremia after taking ecstasy.
Natalie Wood - actress, drowned when intoxicated.
Paula Yates (40) - British TV presenter & author, partner of deceased INXS star, Michael Hutchence, heroin overdose.

 

[Fried Gold]

Incidently, I'm aware that the above list does not necessarily pertain to marijuana usage, but it's enough to put me off the idea off any illegal drug usage.

I'm going to close off on this thread for now, because I've finished work and I would very much like to go home and *********e.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Should we list all the people who have done great stuff without drugs?

 

[DorkyFresh]

He was still a student when his paper attracted attention etc, he dropped out of uni for a life of unemployment and drugs. Now he works at a school.

I hope that answers your question? Anything else?

nah man, i appreciate it. it's a shame he let weed get in the way of his success, but it happens. i'm not gonna deny that there are people out there that will let weed stop them from doing something great. admittedly it's addicting but as i said before (and once again, no offense) marijuana addiction is always a personal problem...not a medical one (ala cocaine, heroine, alcohol).

 

[Overman27pj]

Hold up.......

HEY!






























































Smoke weed everyday!

 

[PLAS]

and yet, none of them died for using pot

 

[PLAS]

Incidently, I'm aware that the above list does not necessarily pertain to marijuana usage, but it's enough to put me off the idea off any illegal drug usage.

I'm going to close off on this thread for now, because I've finished work and I would very much like to go home and *********e.

in other words:

"I'm sorry that my plan to prove a point backfired in me, thus making me look like an ass, so now I'll go hide my head in shame"

 

[PLAS]

Should we list all the people who have done great stuff without drugs?

you could try, still most of them would at some point or another may have consumed at least coffee or something else

 

[DorkyFresh]

wow Fried Gold! you've successfully convinced me...



...that you aren't willing to put in the effort into properly researching the drug. instead you made a half-assed attempt at finding people who've died of hard drugs and don't have marijuana or weed as cause of death. hell, most of those people don't even have weed listed. if you think marijuana is anywhere near the same level of heroin or meth then it's a true testament to your ignorance on the subject.

 

[KingOfDreams]

Jesus that took forever to load. Anyway, to quote Bill Hicks, it serves a thousand different purposes, all of them positive. I'm convinced it's safer than alcohol too.

 

[KingOfDreams]

double post

 

[Ice-man]

you know from what i can recall there has never been any incident ware anyone was ever really injured or died from Marijuana usage.

i mean using Marijuana alot can lead to harder drugs, but only if you feel its nessasary to go try it and do it, its all option, i smoke still, not as much as i used to, like i said i cut down, I've been doing it almost a year and trust me its all ill pretty much ever do, i never wana do coke, shoot up herowin or consume shrooms.

the only thing besides weed I've ever consumed was salvia, its similar to a weed but it alters perception and gives you a bit of a trip. take some of that purple 80x **** and you'll see things that will scare the **** out of you.

i had a bad trip last weekend. probably never doing it again.


but still Marijuana is the drug for me, nothing else but in a few years i will try acid, as I've heard it will open up your mind to the unimaginable. should be quite a trip.

but i wont touch that till im old enough and mature enough to think i can handle it.

 

[Fried Gold]

in other words:

"I'm sorry that my plan to prove a point backfired in me, thus making me look like an ass, so now I'll go hide my head in shame"

As opposed to what? Your point that some people who smoked weed wrotes some acceptable music? How about the thousands that possibly threw away promising careers due to marijuana? How about Cyrusbales' brother? How about my band's ex-cellist? We'll never get to hear about their accomplishments because they threw them away in order to feel slightly weird for a bit. If you and the others can bring up alcohol as a legal drug that causes ****, then surely I could bring up other illegal drugs that cause ****.

So people use marijuana to alleviate pain from cataracts or what have you because the medical system in many countries doesn't have a culture of holistic pain relief. But that's one use for one drug. Any other 'legitimate' uses for otherwise purely recreational drugs are highly controversial and their is no evidence to support their validity.

Until then, I'll stick to my guns and keep up the somewhat heavy-handed approach that drugs are not cool (because it's still the case that most kids get into drugs through peer-pressure, not through a perceived need or desire to be intoxicated). It's heavy-handed, sure, but so far it's worked a hell of lot better than saying "do what you like as long as you don't pass out on my front lawn".

Look, you're free to agree or disagree with me, but my personal belief is that the human mind is a magnificient thing, capable of astounding feats, amazing strength, incredible creativity and resourcefulness. It has an infinite capacity for learning and for development. In my view, sticking drugs in there is like dumping crude oil in the ocean. Any altered consciousness you experience is false because it's chemically induced. Any mood lift you get from it is just a band-aid over the fact that if you didn't have the drugs you wouldn't feel as good. In fact, I think one of the main reasons why I despise drugs so much is because they make you feel emotions that aren't real. The calm you feel when you smoke pot is not there because your mind is at rest and your life is stress-free. The boost of energy you get from doing speed or coke is not a sign of good health and robust stamina. The love you feel for everything when you drop E isn't because you're genuinely an effusively affectionate person. It's all false, totally false. It's pretending with chemicals and I hate it.

Out.

 

[Halcohol]

Hold up.......

HEY!






























































Smoke weed everyday!

Nicely done

 

[DorkyFresh]

Any other 'legitimate' uses for otherwise purely recreational drugs are highly controversial and their is no evidence to support their validity.

once again, BS due to the fact that you won't do proper research on the subject. there's PLENTY of evidence out there...you just haven't looked.

Look, you're free to agree or disagree with me, but my personal belief is that the human mind is a magnificient thing, capable of astounding feats, amazing strength, incredible creativity and resourcefulness. It has an infinite capacity for learning and for development. In my view, sticking drugs in there is like dumping crude oil in the ocean.

that's because you haven't done any research on the subject.

In fact, I think one of the main reasons why I despise drugs so much is because they make you feel emotions that aren't real.

you say drugs make you feel emotions that aren't real, yet you haven't even tried or experienced any of them.

It's all false, totally false. It's pretending with chemicals and I hate it.

you know...if you smoked a lil' greenery every once in a while maybe you'd learn to practice love instead of hate.

 

[Fried Gold]

once again, BS due to the fact that you won't do proper research on the subject. there's PLENTY of evidence out there...you just haven't looked.

Well the burden is on you to show me legitimate use that isn't medically prescribed.

you say drugs make you feel emotions that aren't real, yet you haven't even tried or experienced any of them.

That's because it's a scientific fact. I also don't need to actually go into space to know that I can't breathe there.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Well the burden is on you to show me legitimate use that isn't medically prescribed.

it ain't up to me to do sh** for you. i'm not your assistant researcher...if you want to learn about the plant, google is a click away. if you want to remain ignorant on the subject then that's on you...

...but in the unlikely case that you DO decide to do some REAL research on the subject then here's a taste of what you'll find out.

The Declaration of INDEPENDENCE was printed on hemp paper. Betsey Ross sewed "Old Glory" the first American FLAG from hemp. The Gutenberg BIBLE was printed on Hemp paper. In WWII hemp was used as rope for parachutes.

 

[Fried Gold]

The Declaration of INDEPENDENCE was printed on hemp paper. Betsey Ross sewed "Old Glory" the first American FLAG from hemp. The Gutenberg BIBLE was printed on Hemp paper. In WWII hemp was used as rope for parachutes.

LOLOLOLOLOL!!1!1 Because that's exactly the context of the drug we're discussing in this thread...

Sorry man, I guess I misunderstood all those dudes in their basements monged out of their minds... they didn't want to use the drug to relax, they want it legalised so that they can use it as paper! Oh man, is there egg on my face or what...