Discussion: Legalizing Marijuana

[Anti-Moderator]

Great points Cmill.

 

[StorminNorman]

I have never tried marijuana and I am for legalization. Do I win a prize?

Secondly cmill...I don't think there are really any benefits to recreationally smoking weed. Smoke is bad for you no matter what you are smoking. However, the truth of the matter is that it is no worse that tobacco or alcohol so I don't see the point in it being illegal. That said, I don't hang around alcoholics and I don't hang around pot heads either. Do I hang around people that occasionally do one or the other. Sure.

I had to lol at that.

Our bodies are not wired to benefit from smoke in our lungs. I do agree that smoking with a vaporizer is fine. Beneficial chemicals absorbed from water vapor is fine.

Our bodies are wired to handle smoke in our lungs though. The benefit from smoking marijuana is not the smoke. You can smoke two bowls a day from a water pipe for your entire life and not have your quality of life affected by it.

 

[LOBO3315a]

Smoking isn't necessarily all bad our bodies are hard wired for cannabis. We have THC receptors in our brains that benefit from the smoke and the cannabinoids. Actually the cannabinoids do much needed repairs on the human body by strengthening the immune system to a point where it can even protect you from cancer. There's signs of Anti-Inflammation properties and smoking cannabis does not increase the risk of developing lung problems there is strong synergistic effect but no real damage is done, unless mixed with tobacco.

Smoke with a vaporizer for a healthy experience. By using a vape you can improve respiratory functions and help grow new brain cells.

Can you cure the common cold, stop brain anyurisms, make the blind see again, and cause the lame to walk? Sounds like you've been drinking the cannibus koolaid, my friend.

I don't use, yet I'm for legalization. What people do in their own homes is their own business, as far as I'm concerned. Just don't try to wrap your desire to be giggly and silly from smoking into some homiopathic Messiah rant.

 

[The BatDude]

Can you cure the common cold, stop brain anyurisms, make the blind see again, and cause the lame to walk? Sounds like you've been drinking the cannibus koolaid, my friend.

I don't use, yet I'm for legalization. What people do in their own homes is their own business, as far as I'm concerned. Just don't try to wrap your desire to be giggly and silly from smoking into some homiopathic Messiah rant.

See that's the problem Im just giving facts and people automatically fall into a close mindset, Im not say you personally have any prejudices but the mere fact that you scoff off these claims is what causes a chain reaction of ruining any creditability that this plant has. Yes it can cure the symptoms of the common cold better than anything you can buy over the counter. It can cure asthma and tuberculosis. Has for the brain anyurisms I haven't heard of any solid research being done but I bet it can. It can cure about anything in the human brain but making the blind see again and making the lame walk again?? come on now be reasonable don't be using ridiculous fallacies to try and make a point. I haven't heard of anything that can make those two things possible.

It's funny you used the word messiah since There's evidence that's says the holy anointing oil had cannabis seeds. the speculation is, is this what Jesus used to heal the sick?

 

[Ghostvirus]

As far as helping the blind see it does help with certain eye problems. Not pure blindness though.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Even if cannibus did cure the blind people would be against it being legal. The level of opposition is ridiculous considering how tame the drug is compared to alcohol.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Can you cure the common cold, stop brain anyurisms, make the blind see again, and cause the lame to walk? Sounds like you've been drinking the cannibus koolaid, my friend.

I don't use, yet I'm for legalization. What people do in their own homes is their own business, as far as I'm concerned. Just don't try to wrap your desire to be giggly and silly from smoking into some homiopathic Messiah rant.

and how many people drank the "beer is safer than weed because its legal" kool aid?

Just because weed can make people silly doesn't mean it lacking dozens of medicinal benefits.

and only noobs get all giggly when smoking the green.

Personally weed puts me in a meditative state and allows "perceptual exploration". Beer has no real value outside of feeling a buzz sometimes followed by a sickening hangover.

 

[LOBO3315a]

Yeah, it's just The Man trying to keep you down. Fight the Power!

And only noobs get a hangover after drinking beer.

come on now be reasonable don't be using ridiculous fallacies to try and make a point. I haven't heard of anything that can make those two things possible.

There was this guy that lived about 2000 years ago.....

 

[The BatDude]

There was this guy that lived about 2000 years ago.....

and he used cannabis

 

[LOBO3315a]

and he used cannabis

Probably, but you said earlier it couldn't make the blind to see nor the lame to walk. Yet that Guy was able to perform those feats (according to Scripture). So are you now saying he did that with Cannabis?

 

[StorminNorman]

One time when I used cannabis, I cured a blind guy.

True story.

 

[The BatDude]

Ultimately It all falls down to what you believe. If you believe he did healed with his magic and his god like power then that excludes the following.

Once you look at Jesus from a historical objective point of view then his miracles can be attributed to his used of the Holy Anointing Oil. It's well documented that the oil had six to nine pounds of cannabis seeds. What stands out is Jesus' use of this oil to heal the sick. Before then the oil was used for Jewish initiations for royalty and for the Messah-kings. As a messiah Jesus himself had to be baptized to gain this title. He broke away from taboos and used to heal the sick, this oil once applied to the skin is absorbed into the pores to do an immense about of good to the human body. This oil could cure epilepsy and if you make the connection between epilepsy and "demons" then this is a valid explanation for Jesus' miracles.

Jesus was a pot head hippy that fought the "Man" end of story

 

[LOBO3315a]

LOL, that reminds me on that 60's revival of Jesus turned into a hippie so the young kids would start going to church.

I'm suprised that he wasn't reinvented in the 80's into a stock broker....

Unless you can go back in time, and conduct scientific tests on whatever Jesus used, you can't say with any certainty how he did what he did.

If you want to believe He used Hemp oil, more power to you.

If someone else thinks he was Devine, and was able to cure and heal that way, then good for them.

Personally I think Jesus was invented, and the Bible is a collection of parables that are from a wide variety of historical sources. That same book is used to beat non-believers about the head and shoulders for not believing.

Same as you seem to be doing with your Messiah....

 

[The BatDude]

or like this...

[YT]ovbL-HJY_3Q[/YT]

lol Clone High

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Yeah, it's just The Man trying to keep you down. Fight the Power!

How does that relate to anything I said?

 

[LOBO3315a]

How does that relate to anything I said?

It's the vibe that most smokers give off then they feel the need to defend thier habit. It's the whole anti-establishment mindset of the smaller numbers having to 'fight the power', as it were.

You use it for meditation? Great. Can you not also induce a meditative state, without it? If not, that's a dependency.

 

[StorminNorman]

I cannot induce the same sort of mental state without marijuana as I can with it.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Oh because I mocked the hypocrisy of legalized beer and illegal cannibus.

How is it not complete hypocrisy, a drug that kills thousands every year with no medicinal value is sold on every corner in America. The safer drug that has never killed anyone and has medicinal value get you locked up.

If you don't see the hypocrisy there, you definitely drank the Nancy Reagan kool-aid.

 

[LOBO3315a]

Interesting. I can induce the same mental state I have when I'm drinking, when I haven't been.

It is hyprocrisy. Life is full of it. Deal with it, or induce a change in the system. If that fails, induce a change in your location to better suit your habit.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's the vibe that most smokers give off then they feel the need to defend thier habit. It's the whole anti-establishment mindset of the smaller numbers having to 'fight the power', as it were.

You use it for meditation? Great. Can you not also induce a meditative state, without it? If not, that's a dependency.

It might be dependency but it's not addiction which is the real danger of certain drugs.

I'm dependent on my car to travel. Using something as a tool is not in itself destructive or unwarranted.

I think weed smokers act as if they're unfairly persecuted because they are unfairly persecuted.

 

[StorminNorman]

I don't buy the notion that you can't get addicted from marijuana. I think that's a false (and unnecessary) argument.

I know I have felt withdrawals.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Interesting. I can induce the same mental state I have when I'm drinking, when I haven't been.

You can get buzzed or drunk without ingesting alcohol? How so?

It is hyprocrisy. Life is full of it. Deal with it, or induce a change in the system. If that fails, induce a change in your location to better suit your habit.

But when the hypocrisy is public policy why not try to change it?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I don't buy the notion that you can't get addicted from marijuana. I think that's a false (and unnecessary) argument.

I know I have felt withdrawals.

It has slight addictive qualities but I'd compare it to coffee.

It doesn't deserve to be grouped with cocaine or heroin as it is now.

I think smokers should fight to change how schedule I drugs are categorized. It should be based on only overdose frequency and addiction. That is a better path to legalization.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Nicotine is also far more addictive than cannibus.

 

[Thread Manager]

This thread is now closed it has a continuation thread [split]348212[/split]