Discussion of Anarchism

[Danalys]

could just eat a peach. [castor troy]i could eat a peach for hours[/castor troy]

do you think peaches will survive the fall of civilisation.

 

[JLBats]

could just eat a peach. [castor troy]i could eat a peach for hours[/castor troy]

do you think peaches will survive the fall of civilisation.

Could these peaches be used in the creation of pie?

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Anarchy can be just the first step in building a new society.

So you depose those who started out with good intentions but morphed into your oppressors, trust 100% in human nature in the interim, until you organize a new system which is run by people with the best intentions who later morph into your oppressors. Neat cycle.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Could these peaches be used in the creation of pie?

[Adam West]Perhaps old chum, but it--would--be dangerous. However if the fate of mankind rests in making this pie. Adam West must try[/Adam West]

 

[The Amazing Lee]

it's law that you can only be an anarchist if you're a punk

 

[Danalys]

if you're careful with the peaches you can get peach pie eventually.

 

[Hades]

So you depose those who started out with good intentions but morphed into your oppressors, trust 100% in human nature in the interim, until you organize a new system which is run by people with the best intentions who later morph into your oppressors. Neat cycle.

it is the cycle of life young, Wilhelm

 

[The Overlord]

How do you prevent anarchism from degenerating into mob rule, where the majority oppress the minority?

 

[Dwarf lord]

People themselves know what order is, and can keep order without leaders. In the case of a murder or thereof, a community would take hold; not police. The community would be the place of prosecutor and, if the man had a good reason for murdering you (which I'd love to hear) he would be let go. But, if not, he would be punished. Murder is never a necessity, although I do want to legalize gentlemen's duels while there are still laws.

No. People do not know what order is. If you really think that turn on the news. See how many murders and rapes and wars and burgerlaries are still going on. Without laws, people would just do it more. There is no such thing as complete order. And, hobo, there is no good reason for murder, even if there is a good reason. Vigilantism is inherently disorderly and it just becomes a chaotic police system.

 

[JLBats]

it is the cycle of life young, Wilhelm

I totally played Scar in a production of the Lion King, but I played him like a total ****ing psychopath, ala Patrick Bateman.

 

[Danalys]

How do you prevent anarchism from degenerating into mob rule, where the majority oppress the minority?

create a mob of minorities. it would out number the none minorities and know not to oppress but stand strong against oppression.

 

[JokerNick]

what's the best way to eat cherry pie?

do you just dive right in, eating everything. or do you take your time, savor the cherry pie, nibble the edges, lick the crusts.....

last time I ate cherry pie.... I just nibbled at it... then I put whip cream on it, but I let the whip cream melt, then I licked it off.... it was very tasty...... specially when you use your fingers to spread the cream around.....

 

[ShadowBoxing]

So you depose those who started out with good intentions but morphed into your oppressors, trust 100% in human nature in the interim, until you organize a new system which is run by people with the best intentions who later morph into your oppressors. Neat cycle.

Actually its a top down system. Elites get a certain degree of power. Enough so they get a foothold in Government (usually by means of wealth and property). As that new class emerges it demands upon it's Government more than it had originally been provided. Eventually this new class takes power from the old. The old are typically dispersed and the new class sets up a new form of Government.

As you can see

Theocracies (led by a God like figure)
led to
Priest run societies
when the king wanted to legitmatize his position this led to
Divine Right Dictatorships
When he sought power this led to
Dictatorships by family.
This led to an extended family, or aristocracy which took power creating the
Aristocracy
This led to an emerging middle class which led to
Democratic Parliamentary systems and Representitive Democracy

This of course is a boiled down version of the truth. However Government does not start with anarchy. It starts with the desire to organize and legitmatize your ruling class. The more power you want the more effective system you have to create to get it. In other words, if you don't want to be overthrown you have to give more power to those not in power. Democracy obviously is not the final step.

 

[JokerNick]

it's law that you can only be an anarchist if you're a punk

lol... punk is such a catch 22........

they hate the establishment, they hate followers, so they start their own group... where you have to follow their rules, dress like they dress, act like they act.... hmmm, wasn't that what you were going against in the first place....

 

[Danalys]

you do it how ever you like if the pie is the right pie it wont mind.

 

[JLBats]

I believe that pie eating should be saved until marriage, thanks.

 

[JokerNick]

I believe that pie eating should be saved until marriage, thanks.

nope, I know many people who eat pie all the time.... this one time, I heard like 3 chicks ate the same pie, at the same time.....

 

[The Amazing Lee]

I believe that pie eating should be saved until marriage, thanks.

Make sure it's cherry pie.

 

[Danalys]

saving a pie for marriage just means there will only be one pie and it'll soon be gone for good.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Actually

Yes, I was just boiling down a response for Kainedamo's...comicbook-based, defense of anarchy.

 

[JLBats]

Actually its a top down system. Elites get a certain degree of power. Enough so they get a foothold in Government (usually by means of wealth and property). As that new class emerges it demands upon it's Government more than it had originally been provided. Eventually this new class takes power from the old. The old are typically dispersed and the new class sets up a new form of Government.

As you can see

Theocracies (led by a God like figure)
led to
Priest run societies
when the king wanted to legitmatize his position this led to
Divine Right Dictatorships
When he sought power this led to
Dictatorships by family.
This led to an extended family, or aristocracy which took power creating the
Aristocracy
This led to an emerging middle class which led to
Democratic Parliamentary systems and Representitive Democracy

This of course is a boiled down version of the truth. However Government does not start with anarchy. It starts with the desire to organize and legitmatize your ruling class. The more power you want the more effective system you have to create to get it. In other words, if you don't want to be overthrown you have to give more power to those not in power. Democracy obviously is not the final step.

So what will the final step be?

 

[JokerNick]

sucks, while in the hospital, I can't eat any pie.... my mouth is wired shut right now, so I can't enjoy it.... I mean, last night, my GF showed up, and she brought a pie with her, I really wanted some, and today, my hot LPN Angie, just can't stop bringing pie infront of me, it's like she's tempting me with that pie..... she likes showing it off.... but I can't taste it... damn pies heat....I mean, I can smell the pie, and feel the pie... but I can't taste it or eat it... NOT FAIR

 

[Lackey]

Anarchy is absence of government. That is all.
It is not absence of order or law.

It's funny how people have so much faith in government given its 'record of performance' throughout human history.

Superhobo, I'm having some trouble figuring out what kind of anarchist you are. I'm an anarcho-capitalist of the Austrian economics school of thought.

This thread could've been interesting if people were a little more open minded and informed.

 

[JLBats]

Anarchy is absence of government. That is all.
It is not absence of order or law.

It's funny how people have so much faith in government given its 'record of performance' throughout human history.

Superhobo, I'm having some trouble figuring out what kind of anarchist you are. I'm an anarcho-capitalist of the Austrian economics school of thought.

This thread could've been interesting if people were a little more open minded and informed.

Holy ****, Lackey is an anarchist.

 

[The Amazing Lee]

Anarchy works in certain forms....especially in terms of boycotting...but certain forms of anarchy including pillaging...rape etc.....are not on.