Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party XI

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He is essentially just biding time to hand over his current failure in presidency to someone else but wants another term to stake it out and show that he went 8 years without doing many effective things in Allah's name...pbuh (peace be upon him)

Not sure if serious...
 
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Bottom line is that he's too socially liberal.

I honestly don't believe that many Republicans care about social issues. Basically the social issue republicans are like a 20% voting block(if that), the rest of people who vote republican most likely could care less or rate social issues a low priority.

The only reason you get alot of pandering to the social issue Republicans because there are more likely to vote in primaries.
 
That 20% is usually the loudest and most active at the polls to get rid of someone they don't like. They also have a lot of money behind them.
 
20% is far too low. I would say a third, at least. There's a reason Massachusetts liberal Mitt Romney has had to denounce every position he once held.
 
I honestly don't believe that many Republicans care about social issues. Basically the social issue republicans are like a 20% voting block(if that), the rest of people who vote republican most likely could care less or rate social issues a low priority.

The only reason you get alot of pandering to the social issue Republicans because there are more likely to vote in primaries.

I disagree. I think social conservatives make up a majority of the party.
 
Guess would be between a third and a half.

I think it's more. More than half of Americans consider themselves pro life.
almost all of Americans are Christian therefore even more Republicans are. Most are against any restriction on guns. Most are anti gay marriage. Most are against legalizing drugs. (although a small majority of Americans are for legalizing pot) Almost all are WASPs.
 
But not all pro-lifers are conservatives. And not all pro-choicers are liberal either.

The notion that liberals aren't religious is a falsehood. The numbers may surprise. As may the number of irreligious people in the Republican party.

Note a distinction between wanting a secular government and being a religious person.
 
I think the 'social issue' Republicans are probably around 20%.

But they're so loud and influential they feel like a lot more. And they use this influence to convince the more centrist Republican blocks to vote their way (usually out of some type of fear-mongering). They also scare the hell out of the politicians enough to convince them they'll be voted out of office if they defy their views on social issues (whether they have the power to actually do that or not).
 
Reliable polls I have seen say between 40 and 50%, but never over half. Compared to approximately 20% for the Democratic Party.
 
I agree between third and half of Republican Party are social conservatives seems right. The other half-ish consist of moderates, military hawks, and libertarians.
 
Pretty much. The Democratic Party is also fairly diverse. The majority of Catholics, Jews, Blacks, most Hispanics, Asians are split about evenly, Gays, Feminists, Hippies, Pacifists... I might be forgetting some.

But the vast majority are religious.
 
But not all pro-lifers are conservatives. And not all pro-choicers are liberal either.

The notion that liberals aren't religious is a falsehood. The numbers may surprise. As may the number of irreligious people in the Republican party.

Note a distinction between wanting a secular government and being a religious person.

never said they were. but the concentration of them in that sector of the population being higher is pretty much a given wouldn't you think?
 
The Republican Party has been hijacked by an unholy alliance of rightwing conservative Christians and hawkish neo-cons who have seized the hierarchy and have everyone else scared to death of crossing them, even though the majority of Republicans (and Americans in general) are more moderate/centrist.

They're also the groups most responsible for turning the GOP into the "Republican In Name Only Party" by steering it away from the limited government, states rights party it originated as and using it as a political vehicle to push their agendas of opposing gay rights and abortion and war on Iraq and Iran.

IMO the GOP would do well to disentangle itself from these factions and move back toward its roots, along the way focusing more on the economy which is number one priority for most Americans regardless of party affiliation, instead of obsessing with the social agenda of the conservative Christians.
 
I should point out when I said 20% I ment 20% of the voting public in general(and I think that's high) not just 20% of Republican voters only. As I said the reason they have so much sway in the party is they are the ones who will go out and vote in primaries(which generally get low voter turnout). I saw a guy on TV the other week who had a good point, if you want to change politics your best bet is to vote in Primaries to elect the guys who will run for the party in State and Federal elections

My basic point of 20% of the voting public is they still have to somehow draw 31 percent others to win
 
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I used to be a poll worker during the elections. And our turn out usually ran about 20% for mid-term elections, 30% for gubernatorial, and 40% for presidential.

So it doesn't take a very big, but determined, group of voters to swing the smaller elections.
 
So according to the AP, Romney's VP choices have come down to Marco Rubio and Rob Portman. Coincidentally, they both represent key battleground states.
 
Rubio said he won't consider being VP. Though I'm not sure that means a whole lot.

I bet Romney picks boring, bland, nondescript Portman. It won't be a net-negative or a net-positive. After the Palin gamble, that's probably the way they'll go.
 
The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were scumbags.

But Kerry was a little wishy-washy. But I feel like Obama is too, at least once he was in office.
I pretty much feel the same about Obama, He's given in to the GOP way too much for me, But the thought of having a guy who will do anything the Tea Party wants him to do just to keep them happy as the POTUS scares the crap out of me.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Obama is not the perfect POTUS, Not by a long shot, but he's a whole hell of alot better than anyone the GOP has had up for the job.
 
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