Disney's live-action "Mulan"

[THORin]

I see a lot people saying Liu looks wooden in the trailer, but I’ve got to say I completely disagree. They’re obviously going for a very different approach with Mulan herself - I mean, it seems pretty obvious because the Matchmaker narrating most of the trailer says that the qualities she sees in Mulan are “quiet, composed, disciplined” - none of those things would have applied to the original Mulan! So I definitely think they’re going for a different route with the character. She looks almost...well, depressed, tbh. Her sister looks like she’s about to break down in tears during that first scene.

But can we talk about the very disturbing lack of Grandma Fa in this travail we? They better not have cut her from the film.

 

[Arachnerd]

Heard that Mushu isn't in the movie haven't seen the trailer yet can anyone else confirm?

He's being replaced by a phoenix apparently.

Edit: Just noticed I reached 10,000 posts. Wow.

 

[jolldan]

No Mushu.

WHAT!!!


Probably will not go see it then. He's not quite up to his level but i firmly believe Mushu belongs in the coversation alongside Genie as the side characters who make the film fundamentally better.

 

[#root]

Hmm to me its just similar to Cinderella 2005. No talking mouses and song numbers. And Disney always include their logo unless its Marvel, Pixar, Lucasfilm or Fox.And mulan is the perfect title. What else would they call it.

Cinderella’s songs aren’t as popular as Mulan though. Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo is the only one that I think most people remember and that was in the remake. Plus, that movie came out in the 50s while Mulan only came out in the 90s so people remember it better. Especially the people who saw it as kids. I mean I get your point I’m open to a different interpretation of it. But since apparently they’re not using a lot of the characters from the original and even Fa Mulan is now Hua Mulan, maybe the Disney logo could’ve been removed so people could more easily differentiate between the two.

 

[jmc]

WHAT!!!


Probably will not go see it then. He's not quite up to his level but i firmly believe Mushu belongs in the coversation alongside Genie as the side characters who make the film fundamentally better.

It's been that way for a while. I do agree somewhat with your sentiment though. I don't think Eddie Murphy got nearly the praise he should have in that film.

 

[jolldan]

It's been that way for a while. I do agree somewhat with your sentiment though. I don't think Eddie Murphy got nearly the praise he should have in that film.

Really never heard any of that until I had a check on twitter this morning.

I honestly can't imagine someone bringing up "Hey so for this new Mulan remake I think we should drop Mushu"

And not being responded to with

 

[kvz5]

I really dug that trailer. It looks gorgeous.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Bad homage! The erasure of Men & Dragon

 

[Abudefduf]

Am I the only one who likes the original Mulan for its protagonist and not for the obnoxious sidekick who is given far more screentime than he deserves and that for some reason is the one to kill the villain.

 

[THORin]

Am I the only one who likes the original Mulan for its protagonist and not for the obnoxious sidekick that is given far more screentime than he deserves and that for some reason is the one to kill the villain.

I don’t hate Mushu, but I think the story definitely doesn’t need him in order to be great. The story was great before it was ever adapted to the big screen.

 

[Abudefduf]

I don’t hate Mushu, but I think the story definitely doesn’t need him in order to be great. The story was great before it was ever adapted to the big screen.

I like him too but people are acting like he was integral to the plot like the Genie when he really wasn't.

If anything he got Mulan into more trouble than she would have alone. He's expendable, just like the mice in Cinderella.

 

[Legendver2]

Seems like a lot of ppl didn't get the memo that Disney is adapting the legend of Mulan and not remaking it's own classic.

 

[flickchick85]

Look at those posters and try to tell me Disney actually wants people to get that memo.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Seems like a lot of ppl didn't get the memo that Disney is adapting the legend of Mulan and not remaking it's own classic.

Which is pointless for Disney to do? We’re going to these for the Disney version.

There was already a historical version a decade ago from China.

 

[Kon]

Which is pointless for Disney to do? We’re going to these for the Disney version.

There was already a historical version a decade ago from China.

And that should stop Disney to do this because... Why?

I mean it wouldn't be the first time a studio creates a new version from a story that it has already another version a decade ago.

 

[samsnee]

Which is pointless for Disney to do? We’re going to these for the Disney version.

There was already a historical version a decade ago from China.

Who is we? The “Disney” version is the animated movie which you can still watch. This update actually looks interesting to me instead of just a pure cash-in on nostalgia.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Who is we? The “Disney” version is the animated movie which you can still watch. This update actually looks interesting to me instead of just a pure cash-in on nostalgia.

We?

The ones who made Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book and Aladdin a billion dollars?

Those are much closer to the Disney animated films than the original source material.

Why have Mushu?

Why have a talking French candlestick Lumierre , a monkey Abu, or King Louie?

 

[Abudefduf]

The new Jungle Book is quite different from the original. It added new characters, significantly reduced the screen time of other ones, removed some of the songs, changed the ending...

 

[Legendver2]

We?

The ones who made Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book and Aladdin a billion dollars?

Those are much closer to the Disney animated films than the original source material.

Why have Mushu?

Why have a talking French candlestick Lumierre , a monkey Abu, or King Louie?

Lol Disney made the "classic" version, they can do whatever the heck they want with a remake. Whether it makes a billion dollars or not is something to be seen next spring, but whether a movie makes money or not shouldn't be the deciding factor on whether you want to see it. If you like the trailers, go see it, if not, then don't. It's that simple.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Lol Disney made the "classic" version, they can do whatever the heck they want with a remake. Whether it makes a billion dollars or not is something to be seen next spring, but whether a movie makes money or not shouldn't be the deciding factor on whether you want to see it. If you like the trailers, go see it, if not, then don't. It's that simple.

That’s not what we’re talking about here.

 

[DarkKnight88]

The new Jungle Book is quite different from the original. It added new characters, significantly reduced the screen time of other ones, removed some of the songs, changed the ending...

If you put it side by side with the Rudyard Kipling book and then 1967 animated film, it still has a hell of a lot more in common with the latter. King Louie, Baloo’s personality, the look of Mowgli etc.

This Mulan looks - mind you this is just a teaser so we still have no idea if the fantasy elements will stay or not - more in tone with Andy Serkis’s Mowgli compared.

 

[THORin]

If you put it side by side with the Rudyard Kipling book and then 1967 animated film, it still has a hell of a lot more in common with the latter. King Louie, Baloo’s personality, the look of Mowgli etc.

This Mulan looks - mind you this is just a teaser so we still have no idea if the fantasy elements will stay or not - more in tone with Andy Serkis’s Mowgli compared.

Andy Serkis’ Mowgli was great, so I like that comparison.

 

[Lencho01]

Any Chinese users on these boards to back this up?

 

[Legendver2]

Any Chinese users on these boards to back this up?

The emperor bowing to anyone is basically sacrilegious in China lol. And the dragon is the Chinese culture's symbol of power and strength, and the emperor is usually likened to be a descendant of a dragon, so turning him into a tiny creature comic relief sidekick is pretty much a smack in the face.

 

[Zorro]

Film looks beautiful with a capital B