Do-over?!

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

X-Files: The Movie and Reign Of Fire (which i liked)

 

[Ions]

I understand what you're saying Ions. However, "do-over" is pretty telling.

Well not really. As an example of what I mean here's something that happened recently that's very similar: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/712/712123p1.html
Here's the fanbase reaction to the initial quote before it was qualified: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103761

He makes a statement. Fans get a hold of it, blow it out of proportion. He qualifies his statement, fans reaction disappears.
That's all I mean. Lets just wait for them to confirm it before we go wild with speculation.
SAVA initial reaction was same as mine, just a tone/appearance change. "Do-over" doesn't always mean "start over". You can easily make it mean "make over".

 

[Cracker Jack]

Fair enough, evernthough I don't really see how "It's a Do-Over" is mis-interpreted. But in all fairness, I did say "I hope this is true" not that it was indeed true. We'll just have to wait and see if Avi says anything to the contrary. And if he does "I want to "Do-over" this thread

 

[Cracker Jack]

X-Files: The Movie and Reign Of Fire (which i liked)

Ah. Well X-files was ok.

 

[LordSimen]

This angers me. The Hulk movie, in my opinion, was perfect and one of the best superhero adaptations ever made. I see no reason to remake it and I want a sequal not a remake.

 

[Symbiote Hulk]

This angers me. The Hulk movie, in my opinion, was perfect and one of the best superhero adaptations ever made. I see no reason to remake it and I want a sequal not a remake.

So do most people.

 

[Sava]

lets get this straight, this is NOT a re-start, this is NOT a remake. Marvel wont remake a film thats only been out 3 years and is still remebered. I think what Avi said was about the tone of the film, as in getting it more towards the comic book side and not what Ang did.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, i'd like to believe you Sava, but with the way marvel has been going lately i could just imagine that this do-over will indeed be a re-make. Marvel hasnt made a good decision with their movies since Spiderman 2. And yes i know the studio's have the majority of decision making power, but surely marvel has some say.

 

[ironmaidenrules]

avi will never say his work was bad or that he did anything wrong

he will say things like "different approach" "do over" ironing out the quirks"

he could just mean that he is trying to do hulk again but nto wanting it to be bad(i loved it)

but since avi's ego is way too ****ing huge, he cant just say "i hated the hulk and we wanna make it not suck so we are gonna change some **** stat"

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Why cant he just say, yeah we are doing a sequel but it will be different in tone from the first movie. Thats why i'm worried about this "do-over" as that means to me that they are going to change a lot of things.

 

[Sava]

Well, i'd like to believe you Sava, but with the way marvel has been going lately i could just imagine that this do-over will indeed be a re-make. Marvel hasnt made a good decision with their movies since Spiderman 2. And yes i know the studio's have the majority of decision making power, but surely marvel has some say.

Marvel has been talking all this time about a sequel, we've heard nothing about a restart. This is just fans taking a thing Avi said and blowing it out of proportion

 

[Cracker Jack]

Marvel has been talking all this time about a sequel, we've heard nothing about a restart. This is just fans taking a thing Avi said and blowing it out of proportion

Marvel has said nothing. Avi was the one doing the talking when the right were stil at Universal. "It's a do-over" only came about when the rights went back at Marvel. I knwo Ions things I'm "The Fan" blowing this out of proportion but it's not. How can you blow "It's a do-over" out of proportion? I'm just telling you what I thing "it's a do-over" means.

 

[Sava]

Marvel has said nothing. Avi was the one doing the talking when the right were stil at Universal. "It's a do-over" only came about when the rights went back at Marvel. I knwo Ions things I'm "The Fan" blowing this out of proportion but it's not. How can you blow "It's a do-over" out of proportion? I'm just telling you what I thing "it's a do-over" means.

its hard for us English people to understand you Americans ....



... but really, lets says it is a do-over, then they'll probably bring it out at the end of 08 or early 09, thats ok IMO, enough time for people to get over 03.

 

[Cracker Jack]

its hard for us English people to understand you Americans ....



... but really, lets says it is a do-over, then they'll probably bring it out at the end of 08 or early 09, thats ok IMO, enough time for people to get over 03.

That should be enough time. Also, maybe this time they'll get the promotion department to get off there asses and promote this movie correctely. I think that if they do a good enough job with the promotion of the movie, the confusion factor will go out the door.

 

[Ions]

I knwo Ions things I'm "The Fan" blowing this out of proportion but it's not. How can you blow "It's a do-over" out of proportion? I'm just telling you what I thing "it's a do-over" means.

Hey now... come on guy what's with the persecution complex?
[Ions thought he was being persecuted by you]
Though I was meaning you, I was also meaning everyone else believing in it. But not just you as an individual.

Again I only disagree with the singular interpretation of "do over". It can mean "Start over" & "Make over". Some want to think it's the former, when it could just as simply be the latter. Neither group knows for sure. We won't know which till either Penn or Avi says something that clarify which interpretation is correct.

 

[Cracker Jack]

Hey now... come on guy what's with the persecution complex?

It's no complex Ions. I brought it here and posted it. I was never attacking you. I respect you and your opinion. We're Hulk Brother.

I agree it could mean Make over. Let look at the meaning of make over then. If you make something over, what are you doing? We're not talking about mommy make over here. We're talking about Making something over as in re-building it. I know that a word or phrase in proper English and the American slang can have different meanings. Think about it in Golf terms. What's a mulligan? I'm not trying to bust your balls Ions. Im just trying to explain what I think "It's a do-over" means.

Edit: Here's a site that I hope helps

http://golf.about.com/cs/historyofgolf/a/hist_mulligan.htm

 

[Ions]

I know what a mulligan is.
Still isn't really a good analogy for what we are talking about. Make over or start over. Is it simply new makeup, new clothes, new haircolour and new haircut? Or is it Extreme makeover, with surgery to start over with a better face then do a normal makeover?

 

[Cracker Jack]

Ions, Ok maybe Avi meant it the way you're saying. I don't know Taking a quote from the above site, here's what I believe he meant. (a mulligan, of course, is a "do-over" - hit a bad shot, take a mulligan and try again).

 

[Sava]

That should be enough time. Also, maybe this time they'll get the promotion department to get off there asses and promote this movie correctely. I think that if they do a good enough job with the promotion of the movie, the confusion factor will go out the door.

we dont live in a perfect world for all that stuff to happen

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well isnt Arad producing this ****er, he need to get off his ass and clarify the situation quick.

 

[Ions]

we dont live in a perfect world for all that stuff to happen

Yeah! Cynicism FTW.
[Ions is glad he isn't the only cynic around here]

 

[Ions]

How many days left till they announce the director? Maybe we'll get clarification around then. Perhaps...

 

[Cracker Jack]

Well isnt Arad producing this ****er, he need to get off his and clarify the situation quick.

I agree 100%. I'll be the first to say "Hey, I was mistaken" if that is the case. I admit that over the past three years, Avi hasn't been able to make up is mind or has he been very clear.

 

[Cracker Jack]

we dont live in a perfect world for all that stuff to happen

We sure don't, look at what happened to the Hulk movie. j/k
You don't think that Marvel will promote its own product BIG TIME? I think they'll do a better job than Universal did.

 

[Sava]

We sure don't, look at what happened to the Hulk movie. j/k
You don't think that Marvel will promote its own product BIG TIME? I think they'll do a better job than Universal did.

oh yeah, for sure. It just looks like us Hulk fans are cursed or something, there will always be something that screws up the film. For a while there, i was looking forward to the sequel, Avi and Marvel had seemed to get things going and now this, i'm sure there will be something else not too far away that will ruin this too.