Do You Believe in Psychics ??

[keith_v]

No, they're still bogus. Ever seen the show psychic detectives? First hand example of Cold Reading. Which is sad, because even police men have been fooled before.

Cold reading does not even come close to explaining the numerous cases where psychics have accurately predicted the location of a body. Something of that nature is not even known by police, or anyone else for that matter.

ie. One case that was documented on Court TV had the police looking for a teenage killer. They couldn't find him, and decided to consult a psychic as a last ditch effort. The psychic claimed that the killer was in the woods, hanging from a tree. A few days later, the teenage killer was found by a man who was walking his dog in the forest. The killer had committed suicide by hanging himself form a tree branch.

And this is only one case of many like this that have been documented.

 

[EdRyder]

That's one of those neat little things about studies like that. For every study that agrees there's a hundred that don't. Sadly there's a lot of people that don't let that little fact get in their way. Check out cold reading sometime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading

http://www.randi.org/library/coldreading/index.html

I agree
However,Cold reading is one thing..But what do you make of remote viewing?

 

[Two-Face]

No.

 

[Eggyman]

No.

Stop rambling, dude.

 

[JTStarkiller]

For a second I thought the title of this thread said physics

Yeah, I made that mistake too. I thought, what a stupid question.

And no, I don't believe in psychics.

 

[The Question]

Everyone knows that physics are an urban myth perpetuated by the CIA to keep the black community under control.

 

[SentinelMind]

One thing I love more than psychics are those who can talk to do the dead.



John Edward: Did you have a relative that starts with a D.....M, ...or P

L....G

G..yes...

was this relative have a history with you? Yes

Sucker: Yes

Audience: OOooooohhhh

JE: Now...this relative...G....Gary...Gayle,....Grant....Grant.....he was your brother...........of your....parent....he was sort of like a brother to you wasn't he...

He comes to tell you that he loves you...and he always will..

 

[Victarion]

Madam Cleo's a fraud. I never won the lottery. I should've sued her for emotional damages.

However I do believe there might be something to some forms of divination.

---Morzan

 

[SentinelMind]

Cold reading does not even come close to explaining the numerous cases where psychics have accurately predicted the location of a body. Something of that nature is not even known by police, or anyone else for that matter.

ie. One case that was documented on Court TV had the police looking for a teenage killer. They couldn't find him, and decided to consult a psychic as a last ditch effort. The psychic claimed that the killer was in the woods, hanging from a tree. A few days later, the teenage killer was found by a man who was walking his dog in the forest. The killer had committed suicide by hanging himself form a tree branch.

And this is only one case of many like this that have been documented.

maybe the psychic saw the incident, wanders around..has connections..

and furthermore, for every success you hear, thousands of failures you don't hear....

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Yes..but they are extremly rare,real ones.Most are frauds,i would say.

 

[pyromaniac]

There's been a couple of studies that claim that there's evidence for psychics and what not. But you can show studies that prove that the world is six-thousand years old. But both are the product of wishful thinking. Just because you want something to be true doesn't mean it is.

What if it were true in the first place and you still want it to be true...?

It's happened a lot too surprisingly enough. Just because studies proved the age of the world doesn't necessarily mean people suddenly flip over their thinking. They can cling stubbornly and firmly to their belief for whatever reason of prejudice and blissful ignorance. Conviction, on both sides, can be very difficult to break through. In fact, people tend to put it before actual reality.

I reckon those of you who make absolute claims about the questionability of psychies likely would never have had any direct contact with one, just media perpetuation and the like. Which is understandable, actually.

If you came upon a story where a person says she can communicate with animals, would you believe it? But because this type of psychic is rarely in the spotlight, would you have somehow given it benefit of the doubt?

Note the difference.

 

[pyromaniac]

maybe the psychic saw the incident, wanders around..has connections..

Yeah. Trying to justify possibilities, angles that the story 'failed' to mention. Thing is, you don't really know. It's a maybe, and that's called the benefit of the doubt.

and furthermore, for every success you hear, thousands of failures you don't hear....

You miss the point. The fact this 'success' actually happened, would point to evidence of the parapsychological. Do you need quantity to believe in this phenomena more?

For others who are believers, it can usually take one.

Of course, coming from a point of view of a believer, I may say, of course if there have been thousands of failures, perhaps it would come down to individualistic factors, environmental, circumstantial etc.

But why do we need maintenance of conviction the same way religion asks of us to do, at least according to our perceptions?

If you have faith in a thing at all, you would want to keep it, whether negative or positive.

 

[Fred_Fury]

One time my mom went to this psychic and she told my mom that she was going to die in a horible car accident within the next 2 years. And then she told my mom that she could make the car accident go away if she bought this potion for like $700.00 and performed some ******ed ceremony.

My mom almost fell for it.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

There's been a couple of studies that claim that there's evidence for psychics and what not. But you can show studies that prove that the world is six-thousand years old. But both are the product of wishful thinking. Just because you want something to be true doesn't mean it is.

so by your logic, just because you don't want the notion of psychics to be real doesn't mean it isn't? see what i just did there kritish...

 

[Joker]

so by your logic, just because you don't want the notion of psychics to be real doesn't mean it isn't? see what i just did there kritish...

The problem with that argument is this...there is no scientific evidence of psychic activity...therefore, you saying there are psychics are the one who has to provide the proof that they exisit...we skeptics on the other hand just have to disprove any data you get, and if you have none we only have to go "bulls**t"

 

[SentinelMind]

Yeah. Trying to justify possibilities, angles that the story 'failed' to mention. Thing is, you don't really know. It's a maybe, and that's called the benefit of the doubt.

I don't know, but I sure do like the scientific method. I have reason to doubt the talent until its practiced again and again under objective and strict scrutiny. It's funny, if someone said God/Jesus told them where to find something and it was there or that the Devil made him do it..., this board would be in an uproar bashing it and dismissing it as fraud. But psychics...hmmm....maybe there's something there...


You miss the point. The fact this 'success' actually happened, would point to evidence of the parapsychological. Do you need quantity to believe in this phenomena more?

No, just because a coincidence is noticed doesn't mean that the there is some parapsychological or supernatural force behind it . Coincidences happen in life, but you notice them. You don't notice the absence of a coincidence. What about the thousands of psychics that claim to have a talent and don't have it. One who claims to have it happens to coincide with an incident in the history of mankind...its a supernatural phenomenon?

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

The problem with that argument is this...there is no scientific evidence of psychic activity...therefore, you saying there are psychics are the one who has to provide the proof that they exisit...we skeptics on the other hand just have to disprove any data you get, and if you have none we only have to go "bulls**t"

so either way neither side can prove ****. so in a way you really can't disprove anything.

 

[Joker]

so either way neither side can prove ****. so in a way you really can't disprove anything.

dont have to...burden of proof is on the people going "it exisits!"...all I have to say is "no evidence that it does, plenty of proof that there is no magical powers in the real world"...cause lets not fool ourselves, you may as well say dragon and alchemy exisit, cause it's all ghosts and goblins, d&d magic bulls**t.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

dont have to...burden of proof is on the people going "it exisits!"...all I have to say is "no evidence that it does, plenty of proof that there is no magical powers in the real world"...cause lets not fool ourselves, you may as well say dragon and alchemy exisit, cause it's all ghosts and goblins, d&d magic bulls**t.

People have believed in psychic powers since before civilization began and according to polls most still do. This means that the burden of proof is on you since you are the one in the minority.

 

[Tangled Web]

I don't believe in magic,
I don't believe in I-ching,
I don't believe in bible,
I don't believe in tarot,
I don't believe in Hitler,
I don't believe in Jesus,
I don't believe in Kennedy,
I don't believe in Buddha,
I don't believe in mantra,
I don't believe in Gita,
I don't believe in yoga,
I don't believe in kings,
I don't believe in Elvis,
I don't believe in Zimmerman,
I don't believe in Beatles,
I just believe in me

 

[bullets]

I don't believe in magic,
I don't believe in I-ching,
I don't believe in bible,
I don't believe in tarot,
I don't believe in Hitler,
I don't believe in Jesus,
I don't believe in Kennedy,
I don't believe in Buddha,
I don't believe in mantra,
I don't believe in Gita,
I don't believe in yoga,
I don't believe in kings,
I don't believe in Elvis,
I don't believe in Zimmerman,
I don't believe in Beatles,
I just believe in me

I don't believe in you.

 

[Joker]

People have believed in psychic powers since before civilization began and according to polls most still do. This means that the burden of proof is on you since you are the one in the minority.

not true...that's the same logic that got us into Iraq..."I believe there's WMD's, and so do all these people! so there must be WMDs!"...just because a group of gullible idiots, who most also believe in a giant invisible man in the sky, believe in something, doesnt mean it's real...you are the ones saying it exisits, therefore, scientifically speaking, you must provide the proof.

 

[Abaddon]

there are many things that have yet to be explained by science.[/reminder]

 

[Joker]

there are many things that have yet to be explained by science.[/reminder]

and many things that never will be, because they dont f**king exist, and scientists wont waste time researching them.

 

[Abaddon]

and many things that never will be, because they dont f**king exist, and scientists wont waste time researching them.

lolololol thats recockculous.