Do You Believe We're In The"Last Days"?

[Blade_fan1911]

No zombies.......

 

[cryptic name]

what's that jesus? you want me to roll you up with beans and cheese?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

That depends on whether you're a woman or not

 

[Obi-Ron]

Do you know what faith even means or what it is?

Let's see now, 6 years of parochial school plus 4 years of study at a religious college...I'm gonna have to say, yeah, kid, I know what I'm talking about.

You need evidence to have faith or else you believe in nothing with a proper foundation for you to base it on.

That's not what faith is. The story of "doubting Thomas" (the apostle that refused to believe that Jesus had been resurrected until he could examine the wounds on his hands and feet) was deliberately included in the Bible as a parable for future skeptics that they should believe (e.g. have FAITH) in the story without having evidence.

 

[vindrow]

End of days? Psssshh, I ain't worried. I know who to call.

Dogs and cats living together..mass hysteria.

 

[rodhulk]

Lol. No.. I don't believe we're in the "End of Days".

Funny, history channel did alittle special on it.


Everyone that worries about the end of days and dwelves on it, missed the entire point of the book of revelations. Its not about death and destruction, its about - with christ, there is hope. Hope and life and peace.

Spoiler

**** guys, I'm an atheist and I know this ****.

Yes, but the funny thing is that before this life and peace, there will be death and war.



Usually to always in the Bible, before there is something good, something bad happens. Couple examples:

- Before the Jews inherited the land of Israel, they had to walk an awful long time, and it wasn't pleasant.

- Before Jesus became our saviour from our sins, he had to suffer.

 

[Gamma Ray]

When did Bison come back? And why?

 

[Qoèlet]

As said, folks have been absolutely convinced, with scriptural "evidence" and everything, time and time again for the past 1500 years or so, that the end of the world is just around the corner. So far, the "prophets" have all been wrong on that topic. Hell, back when the crew was going mad at Munster, they didn't even have tonnes of cash to make off of bull****/sensationalizing, documentaries, studies, a TV shows a la JVI.

 

[FEAR THE BAT]

To answer FEAR THE BAT, you must have paid attention to the verse in Mathew 24:14 which says, "And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." That has already happened. Over 8 million Jehovah's Witnesses around the world have spent over 1 BILLION hours in foreign lands (which include third world countries, isolated peoples, and lands where Christianity is illegal) preaching the good news of the Kingdom. Their publications are THE most translated publications in world with the most amount of languages published.

True, but you can't really think that everyone on earth has been reached and explained about God and Jesus and given the choice to accept him as their savior.

 

[War Lord]

Only independently each one. When the Apostles asked Jesus what should they look for to know when the last days are coming he gave them all these details as ONE sign. This meant that all these things would be happening together at the same, would link to each other and not one at a time or seperately in isolated areas. All those signs and details on human behavior would happen at the same time which is reflected in the history of the 20th Century. Of course Jesus and the apostles new that these things already took place within the history of their time but the Apostles didn't question this sign because they knew that Jesus meant that these details were meant to happen all at once when the time came.

I just want to clarify this statement. Actually, Christ likened the last days to a woman giving birth. If you think about a pregnancy, (not that you're doing anything to get anybody pregnant, RIGHT?), a woman will often experience certain symptoms throughout her pregnancy that indicate she's getting closer to giving birth, but the symptoms get more intense until they're unbearable at the time of birth.

If you think of it the same way, the signs Christ gave have happened throughout mankind, except that those same signs have been getting more intense and have happened more often since the time of Christ and those same signs will be very unbearable to take at around the actual second coming.

 

[War Lord]

dishonestly.

Very honestly actually, because they've been sitting in clay pots for the past 2000 years untouched, so it helps confirm that the same scripture the dead sea scrolls cover also have not changed in the past 2,000 years.

 

[War Lord]

I mean...according to many prophets...wasn't the world supposed to end a long time ago?

Wasn't it supposed to end on 6/6/06?

And wasn't it supposed to end when it was the year 2000?

It'll end. Trust me. The way I said it would. Mass hysteria. The rich vs. the poor. With the middle class stuck between which side they'd rather be on.

The white man will be extinct by the year 2100. And not because of the minorities uprising. It'll be because of the decaying O-Zone layer, which will cause more harmful UV rays to slip through, causing people with lighter complexions to slowly become extinct from planet earth. Prophecies and bible mumbo jumbo might get you through another night of sleep. But science is fact.

The black race and the hispanic race will rise to power after this decline in the white man. The world will seriously change for a while, and then...of course...these minority races that were held down for so long will soon become what they hated most...just like the white man.

And eventually the world will end simply because Mother Earth can only take so much abuse from the consuming, wasteful human race.

White man will just become red man and come back and whoop your ass.

 

[Danalys]

Very honestly actually, because they've been sitting in clay pots for the past 2000 years untouched, so it helps confirm that the same scripture the dead sea scrolls cover also have not changed in the past 2,000 years.

but nothing in the past 2000 years has been predicted specifically. in those texts.

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

Here are the signs of the last days according to the Bible:
Unprecedented warfare.—Matthew 24:7; Revelation 6:4.

Famine.—Matthew 24:7; Revelation 6:5, 6,*8.

Pestilences.—Luke 21:11; Revelation 6:8.

Increasing lawlessness.—Matthew 24:12.

Ruining of the earth.—Revelation 11:18.

Earthquakes.—Matthew 24:7.

Critical times hard to deal with.—2Timothy 3:1.

Inordinate love of money.—2Timothy 3:2.

Disobedience to parents.—2Timothy 3:2.

A lack of natural affection.—2*Timothy 3:3.

Loving pleasures rather than God.—2Timothy 3:4.

A lack of self-control.—2Timothy 3:3.

Without love of goodness.—2Timothy 3:3.

Taking no note of the impending danger.—Matthew 24:39.

Ridiculers reject proof of the last days.—2Peter 3:3,4.

Global preaching of God’s Kingdom.—Matthew 24:14.

2 Timothy 3:2-7 - But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 6*For from these arise those men who slyly work their way into households and lead as their captives weak women loaded down with sins, led by various desires, 7*always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

So in short, all the things that have been around since even before God's time.

 

[War Lord]

but nothing in the past 2000 years has been predicted specifically. in those texts.

Actually it does, but unless you're willing to take the time to find out what has been predicted, you might not see it.

My experience with most athiests and such is that they want the answers summed up in just ten minutes or less. If it takes a bit of work to find out what the Bible does predict, most just aren't up for it.

 

[War Lord]

So in short, all the things that have been around since even before God's time.

Except, they've been increasing in intensity since that time.

 

[E. Bison]

Thank you for your addition Jonty. Yes, they will also be detected by the fact that they will increase and intensify. A lot of those things have not been as bad as they have been in the 20th century. The one of ruining of the earth is at it's worst and most significant during our time. War and famine has increased and has not stopped. Disease has also increased and has also not stopped. The most significant of all is the global preaching work of Jehovah's Witnesses which has been done on a worldwide grand scale.

 

[War Lord]

Thank you for your addition Jonty. Yes, they will also be detected by the fact that they will increase and intensify. A lot of those things have not been as bad as they have been in the 20th century. The one of ruining of the earth is at it's worst and most significant during our time. War and famine has increased and has not stopped. Disease has also increased and has also not stopped. The most significant of all is the global preaching work of Jehovah's Witnesses which has been done on a worldwide grand scale.

I want a raise, boss.

So, you're saying that we can blame JW's?

 

[Danalys]

Actually it does, but unless you're willing to take the time to find out what has been predicted, you might not see it.

My experience with most athiests and such is that they want the answers summed up in just ten minutes or less. If it takes a bit of work to find out what the Bible does predict, most just aren't up for it.

takes one example to disprove my claim. something found in the dead sea scrolls that could only refer to a specific event. you know it well get to it. i'd rather not risk brainwashing myself by reading it.

 

[War Lord]

takes one example to disprove my claim. something found in the dead sea scrolls that could only refer to a specific event. you know it well get to it. i'd rather not risk brainwashing myself by reading it.

The dead sea scrolls are simply copies of scripture, like Isaiah or Ezekiel. If you want to know what the dead sea scrolls say, read Isaiah or Ezekiel.

As I said, you want an answer defined in a short paragraph, with no work on your part to find out.

 

[Danalys]

ishiah and ezekiel. heh i've read their best attempts it didn't convince me that they weren't just talking short term. also under analysis isaiah shows signs of interpolation. some one ghost wrote after the fact adding parts to his writtings turns out they are the parts that perdict events so well. hind sight is 20 20.

 

[ssj4 vegetto]

It's 5766...

thats not our calender
i think its the hebrew one
anyone know for sure?

 

[E. Bison]

I want a raise, boss.

So, you're saying that we can blame JW's?

Well, since Dog Lips is gonna be fired for summoning the Grimace sure I guess you can have his pension and his office space with the window. Anyways, blame JW's for what? For preaching on a global scale and making that sign come true? Sure I guess you can blame them for that then cuz they have done so. Last year they spent over a billion hours preaching and gave out over 60 million copies of Bible literature around the world in almost 200 different languages.

 

[War Lord]

ishiah and ezekiel. heh i've read their best attempts it didn't convince me that they weren't just talking short term. also under analysis isaiah shows signs of interpolation. some one ghost wrote after the fact adding parts to his writtings turns out they are the parts that perdict events so well. hind sight is 20 20.

They weren't ghost-written or changed. Where are you getting this information?

 

[Danalys]

people have designed tests to check authorship for legal reasons. when the bible is put through that we get results that say two people wrote something that is claimed as the work of one. and since there aren't copies datable to between the "prediction" and the event, it rings true. people were also fun of scroll burning back then they burnt anything they classes as heretical. which is supressing freedom of speach. it's also convienent to remove traces of past mistakes. control the knowedge of the past to control the future it's been done by leader after leader. especially in those days. they always go after the intellectuals and academics first because they are normally the ones that would challenge their lies and deceit. it's happening again right now. with the want to change the definition of what science is so that they can include ID in schools. this is an attack on honest intellectualism. in court they admit that ID is not science. but they will tell their flock something else. they will tell them the courts are against them for evil reasons. they rally against freedom because they wouldn't trust themselves to be free, or their cage has become thier home. a pet of the state. fighting against the principals that created america. because they can't win legally they seek political power. the republlican party is slowly becoming the evanglical party.