Comics Do you like the unmasking....THE POLL

What do you think?

  • LOVE IT!!!! Opens the door to some great stories.

  • Like it. A good idea, not sure about the execution though.

  • Dislike it. Just seems like a bad idea.

  • HATE IT!! Totally out of character, thanks again Marvel!

  • Not sure yet.


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Grim Goblin said:
Well, I could state how much I hate most of the recent events in Spidey's life but why don't we get it straight from the guy himself....

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This....this sums up how all Spidey fans feel nowadays. Awesome!!:up:
 
Y'know what really makes no sense here? Peter may think that the Avengers can help keep MJ & Aunt May safe. But it's not the Vulture or Electro that he really needs to worry about. Why? Because supervillains are, by their very nature, theatrical & predictable. THey wouldn't be as likely to kill Aunt May outright as kidnap her & make some big grandstand, giving Peter a chance to save her. No-what he should worry about is some two-bit thug that he captured who was put away for 5 years. Someone whose face he's forgotten. Someone who could walk up to MJ in a supermarket, pull out a silenced .45 & put two in her belly before she even knows what happened. Someone who could get into Midtown High or the Bugle building unnoticed-because he's NOT wearing a costume-& set a bomb. There are people he's webbed up who are not above doing something like this to get his attention.
 
Blackredens said:
Still completely out of character for him!

If you've read the stories leading up to it it's not out of character.
 
In which of those stories did he develop amnesia & forget about what happened to Gwen, Aunt May, Flash Thompson & Baby May?
 
Chris Wallace said:
In which of those stories did he develop amnesia & forget about what happened to Gwen, Aunt May, Flash Thompson & Baby May?

And during all those times there wasn't a law passed stating that all heroes have to register, and Peter wasn't a part of the Avengers living in a swank apartment.

And Aunt May was the one who convinced Peter to unmask. Peter was planning on running to a different country with his family and change his name before the old lady dug her claws into him.
 
SpideyInATree said:
If you've read the stories leading up to it it's not out of character.

Would you elaborate a bit on that please SIAT??

Because I don't see how any of the stories lead to this. There's a thread somewhere in this forum full of quotes from Peter over the years saying how dangerous it would be if his enemies knew who he really was.

He'd have to be mind numblingly STUPID to think he and his loved ones will ever have a normal life again after revealing who he really was. He lost one loved one when ONE villain knew who he was.

I just don't get how some people can justify what Peter did was in any way sensible or rational.
 
SpideyInATree said:
And during all those times there wasn't a law passed stating that all heroes have to register, and Peter wasn't a part of the Avengers living in a swank apartment.

And Aunt May was the one who convinced Peter to unmask. Peter was planning on running to a different country with his family and change his name before the old lady dug her claws into him.
None of which makes it a good idea. I have an even harder time swallowing the idea that Aunt May would prompt him to do something so stupid.
And damn the Registration Act. He's defied authority more times than I can count. My favorite was the "Shadowgames" mini, in which X-Factor was ordered not to reveal what they knew to the press. Spidey said "Nobody orders me nothin'!" THAT is what I expect from him.
 
Doc Ock said:
Would you elaborate a bit on that please SIAT??

Because I don't see how any of the stories lead to this. There's a thread somewhere in this forum full of quotes from Peter over the years saying how dangerous it would be if his enemies knew who he really was.

He'd have to be mind numblingly STUPID to think he and his loved ones will ever have a normal life again after revealing who he really was. He lost oneo loved one when ONE villain found out who he was.

I just don't get how some people can justify what Peter did was in any way sensible or rational.
This is the main point I've been arguing all along. That's what I was getting at when I referenced Gwen, Aunt May & Baby May.
But again, the problem does NOT begin & end with supervillains, as I stated in a prior post.
 
Doc Ock said:
Would you elaborate a bit on that please SIAT??

Because I don't see how any of the stories lead to this. There's a thread somewhere in this forum full of quotes from Peter over the years saying how dangerous it would be if his enemies knew who he really was.

He'd have to be mind numblingly STUPID to think he and his loved ones will ever have a normal life again after revealing who he really was. He lost one loved one when ONE villain knew who he was.

I just don't get how some people can justify what Peter did was in any way sensible or rational.

Sure.

Spider-Man becomes a member of the Avengers. He, his wife, and his Aunt May move into Avengers Tower and live rent free, thanks to Tony Stark. Peter Parker dies and is reborn (albeit it was a crappy story...it still happened regardless). Tony Stark designs a new suit for Peter, considering that Pete IS a part of the Avengers now, which gives him TONS of enhancements and new gadgets that assist him. Like, you know, having armor instead of a cloth suit that gets torn every five seconds.

The New Warriors attack a group of villains which causes the villain Nitro to use his power and hundreds of people, including school children, die. The government has to act and give the public something so they pass the Superhuman Registration Act. Peter Parker doesn't HAVE to reveal his identity but Tony Stark asks Peter to reveal his identity to the public to show how behind the registration act he is and that they need, and should, comply to it.

Peter, who doesn't agree at first and even wants to run away with his family and change his name, is convinced by his Aunt May that revealing his identity would be a wonderful thing. That all the lives he's saved never had a face to go with their hero, and now they finally will.

Now, in some of those events leading up to it all we've noticed that Tony Stark, who set in motion Peter's unmasking, isn't exactly turning out to be the most trustworthy person in the world. Now, Tony Stark has given Peter a team and peers. He's given his family a free place to live. And he's given him a multi million dollar piece of equipment, which he calls his costume (no matter how much you dislike it's look it's 100 times of an upgrade from a piece of cloth). Basically, Tony Stark became a father figure to Peter, and we all know how Pete is with father figures.

No, Peter Parker didn't act out of character. Peter Parker was doing exactly what he has to do to ensure that he's doing the right thing. He was pressured into it and that's why it's a story, because as many fans are saying he made the wrong decision and Peter is starting to slowly realize, even though it's easy for an outside source to say, "Peter you're stupid". How can you say that? If someone who you considered a friend, like Iron Man, did all those things for you...wouldn't you feel a little obligated to listen to what he has to say? And maybe consider his offer and his idea? You would. Though it's easy to have hindsight when you're not in the situation.

In ASM # 534 he basically has no choice but to do battle with Captain America and he hated it. At the end of it he still respects Cap and doesn't think any less of him or dislike him because he's on an opposing side of some crazy Civil War. And we're noticing that Tony Stark isn't exactly this great nice guy, which we the readers already knew, but Peter Parker does not.

It bugs me that just because people don't like the fact that Peter Parker unmasked himself that he's suddenly "out of character". He's not. Not by a long shot.
 
Okay let's take a look from a rational POV of Peter's character:

1) Is always disrespectful to authorities. Even goes out of his way to admit he has no respect to the men in blue.

2) Has run away from the law numerous times even when they are shooting at him, because he doesn't want to answer questions.

3) Has been hounded from JJJ to Cap. Stacy taht if he unmasks himself he'll be a hero but thinks it is an absurd idea.

4) Knows he'll be sued out the wazhoo if he unmasks himself for property damage and personal injury.

5) Green Goblin finds out and kills Gwen.

6) Green Goblin II nearly kills Aunt May. Comes back tortures Pete's mind and nearly blows up Aunt May

7) Venom just ruins his life for a few years in fear after finding out his identity.

8) Green Goblin comes back and (takes a big breath), kills Pete's daughter May, kills Pete's cousin/brother/clone/thing in Ben, kidnaps Pete's aunt and makes him thinks she is dead, puts Flash in a coma while trying to kill him and successfully ruins his life, kidnaps Aunt May, AGAIN and buries her for months in Uncle Ben's grave and nearly kills MJ.

So.....after all that **** and the fact that Spidey hasn't given two ****s what the law tells him to do for about 12 years of his life now...will unmask himself, even though every fiber in him should know it is wrong....because the law says to?

Something smells like **** here and rings untrue from about 40 years of character development now.
 
While I don't like the unmasking at all (I feel it goes completely against the character)...I do think that it opens up alot of interesting storyline possibities and so far it's been handled pretty well. Heck, we all know that sooner or later Spider-man's secret identity will return somehow.
 
Law or not, Avengers or not, a guy who's had his secret identity ****ed around with so often by his super-villains, namely the Green Goblin multiple times, Chameleon (faked his Parents' return), Venom, Scorpion, and several others I'm sure that I can't recall right now, that he'd be damn paranoid about it.

I know I would. I mean, think about it, you've been keeping your identity secret for YEARS to keep your friends and family safe from your villains, wouldn't you be absolutely terrified over the prospects of unmasking, regardless of your support? Don't forget that Peter is a consummate worry-wart, which lends more to a paranoid stand-point.

I'm sorry, I just don't think that Peter would ever be willing to unmask. Yes, his superhero friends might be able to protect his civilian ones and his family, but what if they can't? The what ifs would nag at Peter so much that he would not be able to go through with it.
 
Cyclops said:
Law or not, Avengers or not, a guy who's had his secret identity ****ed around with so often by his super-villains, namely the Green Goblin multiple times, Chameleon (faked his Parents' return), Venom, Scorpion, and several others I'm sure that I can't recall right now, that he'd be damn paranoid about it.

I know I would. I mean, think about it, you've been keeping your identity secret for YEARS to keep your friends and family safe from your villains, wouldn't you be absolutely terrified over the prospects of unmasking, regardless of your support? Don't forget that Peter is a consummate worry-wart, which lends more to a paranoid stand-point.

I'm sorry, I just don't think that Peter would ever be willing to unmask. Yes, his superhero friends might be able to protect his civilian ones and his family, but what if they can't? The what ifs would nag at Peter so much that he would not be able to go through with it.

I agree completely. I don't understand how someone could honestly try to put a logical spin on the whole "Unmasking" situation. I really can't see Peter ever being put in a position where he would "have" to do that. It upsets me, yea...but at the same time..You can almost treat it as a "What if" in a way and see all the different reactions and storylines that can develop from this...cause we all know that Marvel isn't going to stick with this. Sooner or Later Spidey will get his secret identity back.

Bottom Line though, Spider-man would have never gone through with the Unmasking. He wouldn't do that to MJ and Aunt May. Never.
 
I keep thinking about a statement Stan Lee made on "Who Wants To Be A Superhero?"; He went into this big thing about how a superhero never reveals his/her identity. Ever. And he used Spider-Man as an example. This leads me to believe he's none too pleased w/what they've done. So why should we be?
And how can anyone defend what is clearly a wrong decision? It is out of character, regardless of any recent developments. One year's events don't change the person you've been your whole life. Not to the degree that you'd do something so stupid. And he knows it's wrong. He's been second-guessing his decision every step of the way. It's out of character & it's wrong.
 
I'm surprised Stan Lee hasn't come out yet and given his opinion of this to the media.
 
Not good PR to publicly badmouth the company that he basically built.
 
I'm surprised Stan Lee hasn't come out yet and given his opinion of this to the media.

He did say on a recent Who Wants to be a SuperHero on Sci-Fi that...
"a superhero would never give up his identity no matter what."

So maybe he has, in a round about way, I'd say.

Thing is, Stan's too classy to come out and bash anything like that. On top of that, he's from a generation that knows better how to properly handle himself in a professional way in such situations, to begin with.
 
farmernudie said:
He did say on a recent Who Wants to be a SuperHero on Sci-Fi that...
"a superhero would never give up his identity no matter what."

So maybe he has, in a round about way, I'd say.

Thing is, Stan's too classy to come out and bash anything like that. On top of that, he's from a generation that knows better how to properly handle himself in a professional way in such situations, to begin with.
I think that was taped before the unmasking.
And it's true, he is too classy for that. Just like his well-known hatred for the Spider-Man TV show or the reasons for changing the Hulk's name. If asked, he'll tell you what he thought of it but he doesn't just bash it outright.
 
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