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All the Spidy books after the unmasking in Civil war 2 has been the best it has been in years and Friendly 14 was the best so far
Deb that hasent been seen in years writhing a tell all of peter parker spider-man and the refence about ben relly and yes the red and blue is back [see Amazing 536 about him loosing the iron sult]
Sensational 32 was great Mary Jane,s insight about peter parker post unmasking
I hope Peter David stays on for a long time his histery with the Spidy stores and the use of Suporting cast that hasent been seen in a very long time
I think this Unmasking is the best thing so far
What do you all think?
 
I like fast women.


To add on to my previous post. I think once CW is over with and we get some none CW tie-in stories, we can gauge the magnitude of the unmasking fairly and its effect on the MU and the Spider-Man titles, and probably not even for 2 years after that.
 
I'll get my twin's number for you. Just make sure you have like five keys on your key ring, so she'll think you're important. And don't really bother making dinner reservations, as that wouldn't matter.

As for the unmasking, I rather enjoy seeing Peter all vulnerable.
 
Mistress Gluon said:
I'll get my twin's number for you. Just make sure you have like five keys on your key ring, so she'll think you're important. And don't really bother making dinner reservations, as that wouldn't matter.

As for the unmasking, I rather enjoy seeing Peter all vulnerable.


Does your twin look like Eva Green?
 
Who's Eva Green?

No, my twin looks like me. Hence identical (which I didn't say before.)
 
Eva Green's the new Bond girl, who made her debut in the quasi-pornographic pic, the Dreamers, as well as being Orlando Bloom's love interest in last summer's Kingdom of Heaven. C'mon, you haven't heard of her...she's French! Or at least half French, hence the Anglo sirname.
 
She sounds familiar, but I didn't know who she was. o_O

I don't watch many movies. ;-;
 
I think the unmasking, so far, has been great.
 
Eva Green's got a huge freakin' forehead.
 
Eva Green, hmm. Does that mean the thread is going to get renamed as "the undressing thread" now?

But back to the topic, I’m not as upset with Peter Parker revealing himself to the world as Spider-Man as I was, even though I still believe it was very out of character for him to do so, especially when you stack up 40 plus years of him trying to preserve his secret identity and that he has faced consequences when people did learn who he was. Perhaps it’s because, realistically, secret identities wouldn’t really last what with modern surveillance techniques and forensic science, and also because the world figuring out Peter was Spider-Man was bound to happen sooner or later. Apparently, the idea of Peter publicly known as Spider-Man, according to Howard Mackie, goes as far back as when David Micheline was doing the writing chores, except the editors at Marvel scraped the idea. You could even say Stan Lee did it first with ASM #12 where Doc Ock unmasked Spidey, as well as multiple times after that (and notice Stan always came up with a way for Peter to regain his secret ID).

Sure, there are great things happening like bringing back long time supporting characters and villains, Spidey being wanted by the authorities again, Peter no longer living rent free at Stark Tower, Spidey misunderstood by the public--all of which readers have been clamoring for quite some time. However, I feel that “Spider-Man Unmasked” has a far greater downside than it does benefits.

First of all, Peter Parker having a secret identity wasn’t just a trivial part of being a superhero, it was important to who he was as a character. The whole idea being Spider-Man was that, behind that mask, he was a relatively ordinary guy who faced similar problems most of us faced daily, which got complicated because he also led the life of a superhero. It short, he was always trying to balance himself between the two, and his having dual identities underscores that. By having all of Peter’s problems become Spider-Man’s problems, you’ve pretty much ruined that dynamic. Naturally, long time Spider-Man fans aren’t happy for this very reason.

Also, big changes like this have a way of confusing any new readers are coming onto the book, or even those who have been away from the book for awhile. If you look at the Clone Saga (notice that the things that generated it, a desire for Spidey to get “back-to-basics,” wanting Peter to be young and single, wanting more interaction with the supporting cast and villains, scapegoating Mary Jane, are exactly the same for the Unmasking) one of the big problems Marvel had was trying to explain what had happened previously to anyone just picking up the book after their new direction. These new readers kept asking “Who the hell is this Ben Reilly guy, and why is he wearing Spider-Man’s outfit?” Well, that’s likely going to happen again once Civil War and the new status quo for Spider-Man is established. Heck, Peter is dressing himself up as Ben Reilly to avoid the authorities, so you can be sure new readers are going to ask “Who the hell is this Ben Reilly guy, and why is he wearing Spider-Man’s outfit?” Too much complication tends to be a big turn off for potential new readers, which is what comics always say they want.

And finally, one of the arguments for the unmasking was that it opened up all kinds of “story possibilities.” Actually, given that this event was coupled with Civil War, there was essentially only one storyline:
1. Peter unmasks.
2. Long time supporting cast members and villains who didn’t know who he was react in shock, anger, and disbelief.
3. Peter’s level of respect by the public doesn’t change one iota because they never cared what Spider-Man’s real name was, they just saw him as simply Spider-Man, the hero, or Spider-Man, the menace.
4. Spidey and his family become constantly beset by villains.
5. Spidey sees the truth behind what registration really means.
6. Because of 4 and 5, Spidey realizes that he has made a stupid mistake in revealing his identity and turns from being pro-registration to anti-registration.
7. Because of 7, Spidey becomes a fugitive from justice and is wanted by the authorities.
8. One of his loved ones, either Aunt May or MJ, is seriously injured or killed as a result of all of the above.
9. Peter falls into a serious funk and becomes darker and edgier.
10. Something happens that will somehow make everyone forget that Peter and Spider-Man were ever one and the same, except they’ll remember that they did once upon a time did know or thought they knew, while Peter remembers everything.

Surprise, surprise, things appear to be following this exact storyline.

And the reason why number 10 is likely to happen eventually is because, in order for Spidey to maintain the same appeal he has had for over 45 years, which in part was his balancing his civilian life with that of a superhero, somehow, someway, Peter secret identity will be restored. However, considering how Peter unmasked, it’s very likely going to involve something truly outlandish, which of course will only aggravate those readers who actually like the unmasking.

As a result, you have a trifecta of anger and mass cancellation of the books among Spidey readers--long time fans because they fell the unmasking betrays the concept of the character, new and incoming readers because they fell hopelessly lost, and the Spidey-fans who like the unmasking because they'll see it as a cop-out. It happened with the Clone Saga and it appears that the unmasking could make this potentially happen again.
 
Yeah... there are alot of problems. In the end, someone's gonna be left feeling cheated.
 
COMICBOY said:
Yeah... there are alot of problems. In the end, someone's gonna be left feeling cheated.

And if anyone is going to be cheated, it better not be Mary Jane, and certainly not due to where she ends up left in a coma at the end of the "War at Home" arc and Spidey finds emotional comfort by having the Black Cat seduce him and sleeping with her again, thus making Joe Q dreams of dissolving the marriage come true. Course after this weeks Sensational Spider-Man, anyone who thinks MJ isn't a valuable character now is insane.
 
i didnt think friendly #14 was all that great, it was good though... but Sensational..... friggin amazing... best issue i've read in a long time
 
Anubis said:
Eva Green's got a huge freakin' forehead.

every time i see her pic on the main page, it always looks like shes got a uni brow lol
 
stillanerd said:
And if anyone is going to be cheated, it better not be Mary Jane, and certainly not due to where she ends up left in a coma at the end of the "War at Home" arc and Spidey finds emotional comfort by having the Black Cat seduce him and sleeping with her again, thus making Joe Q dreams of dissolving the marriage come true. Course after this weeks Sensational Spider-Man, anyone who thinks MJ isn't a valuable character now is insane.
actually quesada has admitted that killing off MJ would do far greater damage in the eyes of the reader... sooo i dont think thats happening
 
spideyboy_1111 said:
actually quesada has admitted that killing off MJ would do far greater damage in the eyes of the reader... sooo i dont think thats happening

Coma doesn't always necessarily mean death, but yes, I don't think Joe Q will actually kill off MJ (or try to have Peter cheat on her with the Black Cat for that matter...I HOPE), especially since the films and other media have solidified her status as Spidey's one true love (plus the fact that MJ already was "killed" and afterwards separated from Peter years ago, both of which were treated as really bad moves and solidified Howard Mackie as one of the worst writers to ever work on Spider-Man). If anything, it's likely that Aunt May is going to be the one hospitalized in coma or dying, mainly because its tragic irony in that she was the one who convinced Peter to reveal his identity as Spider-Man in the first place believing his life would be better and that people would like him better if they knew who he was, only to end up having her life hang in the balance or end up being killed because of it.
 
ya, to be honest i wouldnt mind so much aunt may getting injured.. but MJ honestly cant... may has surved her purpose... and even though her death in 400 was retconned.. and as powerful as that was.. her coming back has brought some amazing moments... and humerous ones... shes surved a great purpose.. soo i can live with her death i think it'd be more meaningful now
 
Well, yeah. She's not exactly top heavy, and she's got your avarage looking backside, (As you can see from my avvy, I likes me some junk in the trunk.) she looks pretty plain to me...other than that massive forehead of course. It does make a good target though ;) I'd do her. She was kinda hot in dreamers. But thats mostly because incest is hot.
 
Definitely having a blast with things since the unmasking. Sensational Spider-Man, in my opinion, has been the Spider-Man book that has really shined since the unmasking. With the Chameleon arc and the recent # 32 with the Mary Jane focused issue...yeah, it's a great time to be a Spider-Man fan.

Too bad some of the cynics can't enjoy this storyline.
 
please dont retcon this marvel...

peters always been such a pretty boy. ive never been a huge spidey fan, he gets away with too much. its about time little peter parker got a wake up call. i know thats what the other was supposed to do but this should. he should realize that his best super friends arent tony and cap but daredevil and the punisher...its about time he began living in the underground world hes always been on the line of involvement.
 
What I think is that He should've told Aunt May, Gwen, Any and all of his FRIENDS in the first place that he was spidey.
 

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