Comics Do you like the unmasking....THE POLL

[3dman27]

amen stan amen

 

[Cyclops]

I agree completely. I don't understand how someone could honestly try to put a logical spin on the whole "Unmasking" situation. I really can't see Peter ever being put in a position where he would "have" to do that. It upsets me, yea...but at the same time..You can almost treat it as a "What if" in a way and see all the different reactions and storylines that can develop from this...cause we all know that Marvel isn't going to stick with this. Sooner or Later Spidey will get his secret identity back.

Bottom Line though, Spider-man would have never gone through with the Unmasking. He wouldn't do that to MJ and Aunt May. Never.

No, he definitely never would have. And heck, we all saw the only surefire outcome of this whole thing long before it ever started up.

One of Spidey's villains is going to kill either MJ or Aunt May, thus forcing Spider-Man to "see the light" and realize the error of his ways and how foolish he was to blah blah blah blah. The crap writes itself, really. It's been writing itself for quite some time now.

And to me, it doesn't matter how well they may or may not handle it. If they say, decided to turn the Hulk into a non-violent pacifist who prefers to talk his problems out rationally than smash things with his fists, it would be horrible. It might be superbly well-written and make perfect logical sense according to a very short storyline, but it would still contradict decades worth of the Hulk's history and development.

That's how I see this unmasking. It doesn't matter if it might be well-written or make sense within the context of Civil War, 40 plus years of Spider-Man's history says that he would never ever do this and it makes no sense that he'd do it now.

 

[USMC]

Amen, Cyclops.

 

[Chris Wallace]

PLUS-it's detrimental in the long run. He can't be an Avenger forever. What's he supposed to do when he can't get a job because he's Spider-Man? When a landlord won't rent to him or a grocer says his money's no good here? This is a short-term gimmick with long-term repercussions. And like most said gimmicks, it'll be bad.

 

[shinlyle]

PLUS-it's detrimental in the long run. He can't be an Avenger forever. What's he supposed to do when he can't get a job because he's Spider-Man? When a landlord won't rent to him or a grocer says his money's no good here? This is a short-term gimmick with long-term repercussions. And like most said gimmicks, it'll be bad.

[sarcasm] Dude! Are you kidding?! This opens up the door to some great stories! It's exciting! It's new! It's never been done in Daredevil before!![/sarcasm]

People are so willing to make a big "Shocking" change nowadays, that they ignore how fast the proverbial well will run dry. Yes, there are 6 months of stories to tell that could prove interesting...his villians come afte rhim and his loved ones, he gets sued by everyone on Earth, he regrets his decision and debates whether or not it was the right choice....

...and next year this time, when he's STILL having these same things happening to him, what will you say then? What "shock" will they go with next? How many more "shake-ups" will follow this one in lieu of some plain ol' good storytelling and character development?!

Thsi idea is dumber than killing off Superman....and it'll be retconned just as quickly, if Marvel knows what they are doing.

 

[Chris Wallace]

If they knew what they were doing, they wouldn't have done it in the first place.
You mentioned Daredevil-ANOTHER reason why he would never do this.

 

[shinlyle]

If they knew what they were doing, they wouldn't have done it in the first place.
You mentioned Daredevil-ANOTHER reason why he would never do this.

For real! He witnessed first hand the hell that Matt's life became when his identity was outted in the tabloids....and he STILL PUBLICLY UNMASKED!

Argh...

 

[Chris Wallace]

First hand. And this was without valid proof.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I've touched on this in other threads, but Spider-Man is their flagship character. He's their most beloved hero & has the biggest overall appeal of any comic book character ever. So why do they feel the need to keep changing him?

 

[Chris Wallace]

And let's not forget that now, inorder to protect Aunt May & MJ, they have to be prisoners in Avengers Tower. Yeah, permanent house arrest is exactly the kind of life they'd want.

 

[daveswb]

The unmasking it self, I could life with out, but over all they can get there selves out of it if need be.

It's how it was done that bothers me the most. He didn't have to do it. There was no law that said he did. Tony asked him to. So the question "If Tony asked you to jump of a bridge would you?" He would have to answer yes to. It was so completely out of character for not only Peter, but for Mary Jane and Aunt May as well. You would think it would be a requirement to have read a large number of spider-man comics before getting a job writting for him. Or any character for that fact, oh well.

And this BS of JQ saying there is no right side is the biggest bunch of bunk ever. Of course there is a right side. He can't come out and say the ant-reg side is right than he is supporting a side and "revealing" the obvious out come. They picked a right side before they started writting, they can't write a story like this with out knowing who will win. So of course they picked a side and they picked the side they thought was "right". JQ is an idiot.

 

[shinlyle]

On top of that, they now HAVE TO kill off Aunt May and/or MJ. For everyone to know Peter is Spider-Man, and neither of them to die a horrible, horrible death, it's unrealistic. He's put away countless villians, and pissed each and every one of them off at one time or another. Hell, Juggernaut alone would want to come by and kill his family for being trapped in the foundation of a building for however long he was there...

Not to mention the lower level foes who would want to make a name for themselves by killing off Spidey's nearest and dearest.

After they're dead, then what?

Peter starts his life over again?! Who the hell would want to get within 100 feet of him?! Gwen, MJ, Mary Jane, Captain Stacy, Harry Osborn and countless others have died simply because Peter is Spider-Man.

So, who do we have for a supporting cast? Other superheroes?! That's the most boring sounding book ever. So much for that "everyman" concept...

 

[daveswb]

I've touched on this in other threads, but Spider-Man is their flagship character. He's their most beloved hero & has the biggest overall appeal of any comic book character ever. So why do they feel the need to keep changing him?

Because people are buying less books and the publishing industry as a whole is going down. So they blame spider-man and try to keep reinventing him to sell books, if that doesn't work they throw in shock and awe.

Instead of blaming them selves for not finding real alterintvies to attract readers. Or hiring quality writters.

I also get a feeling that the current staff at Marvel doesn't like Spider-man as thier flagship character and are trying to make Iron-Man thier flagship character. But that's just me.

When ever there is a question of why it usually has to do with money.

 

[Chris Wallace]

So you can't say "There's no right side" when you've already decided the outcome? Hadn't thought of that. But then I never heard JQ make that asinine remark.
Somebody needs to do a manip of Daredevil chasing him.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Because people are buying less books and the publishing industry as a whole is going down. So they blame spider-man and try to keep reinventing him to sell books, if that doesn't work they throw in shock and awe.

Instead of blaming them selves for not finding real alterintvies to attract readers. Or hiring quality writters.

I also get a feeling that the current staff at Marvel doesn't like Spider-man as thier flagship character and are trying to make Iron-Man thier flagship character. But that's just me.

When ever there is a question of why it usually has to do with money.

I disagree w/one thing; it's more likely they're trying to shift the title to wither Cap (who started the resistance & would thus be seen as the "real" hero in all of this) or Wolverine (who, instead of beating on his friends & allies, actually went after Nitro.)

 

[shinlyle]

Somebody needs to do a manip of Daredevil chasing him.

How about a manip of Spidey stabbing Joey Q through the arms and eating his head? That would be funny, right?

...or was that taking it too far...

 

[Chris Wallace]

A bit, yeah.

 

[Chris Wallace]

A bit, yeah.

 

[Doc Destruction]

How about a manip of Spidey stabbing Joey Q through the arms and eating his head? That would be funny, right?

...or was that taking it too far...

Not at all. Quite a meal, too! Super size!

 

[USMC]

How about a manip of Spidey stabbing Joey Q through the arms and eating his head? That would be funny, right?

...or was that taking it too far...

I cant find a good pic of the wonderous Stingers in action, or a pic of Spidey eating Morlun's head. Where can I find one, Ill make a manip.

 

[Jack O'Lantern]

I like the unmasking, personally. I've always wondered what would happen if Spidey's ID were revealed. That, and I got sick of writers threatneing to expose Peter's secret only to have it be a fake out. That got old real fast. Besides, Peter's ID wont be public knowledge forever. They will find a way to ret-con it somehow.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I like the unmasking, personally. I've always wondered what would happen if Spidey's ID were revealed. That, and I got sick of writers threatneing to expose Peter's secret only to have it be a fake out. That got old real fast. Besides, Peter's ID wont be public knowledge forever. They will find a way to ret-con it somehow.

See, that goes right to the heart of the problem. Like someone said earlier, it would've made a great "What If" plot, but writing it into continuity is just stupid.

 

[Jack O'Lantern]

See, that goes right to the heart of the problem. Like someone said earlier, it would've made a great "What If" plot, but writing it into continuity is just stupid.

How is it stupid? A "What If?" tale is only a normal 22 page comic. Not nearly enough to get the scope of something this big. I've picked up a few "What If?"s and have always felt that they were horrible ways to get at alternative endings for great stories.

 

[Chris Wallace]

DC has occasionally made "Elseworlds" minis; no reason Marvel can't do the same. Hell, they did it w/Spider-Girl & they've kept it running for what, 8 years now?

 

[Jack O'Lantern]

I would be ok with that, but it doesnt change my mind about Civil War.