Do you think? "Women destroy Men".

[I'm Old Greg]

Iv had that thought. how some men find themselves distraught, and the woman that they were with or were with had destructive aspects about there life...or the fact the woman/women move on with out a hinge as the guy is left with feelings of grief and stress..which leads him to half a life or worse.

i'm talking about actual death though or close to it, where a guy either dies or his life is like death.

i really tried to figure it out, iv known guys, and read about guys and even myself have been through it. I was wondering if there was truth to it.

 

[jaguarr]

No.

jag

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm pretty sure women take break-ups just as hard if not harder than guys

But yeah, my woman is totally ruining my life

 

[CConn]

People kill people.

Everyone wants to pretend most people - or any people - are normal and good, blah, blah, blah. But it really isn't true. Everyone is...kinda crazy. To differing degrees of course, and 95% of people are perfectly good, functioning people despite their...personal oddities, but they're still there.

When one person's little quirks starts griding against another person's (no, it's not pornographic), that's when sparks fly, that's when arguments happen, that's when people get stressed. And, unfortunately, there's nothing you can do about it. That's people. If we were any different, we wouldn't be human beings.

Granted, I'll admit, there's certain gender-based...personal traits and flaws (IE, men are conditioned to be macho, women are conditioned to be, uh, non-macho) and that does lead to additional tension. But, I'd say in general, each gender's flaws kinda cancel out the other's. They're equally messed up, they're equally stressful.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

woman do live longer than men...its a proven fact.

men are designed to create life. find a woman and mate...woman are created to bring life into this world and continue to do so.

it just seems as if it's harder on a guy who searches for a woman as woman are waiting for a man, or the next one after that.

its like men work up to get a woman, as a woman just lays back expecting "it" to happen.

its just seems from that it can lead it being harder on a man than a woman.

 

[Fry's Girl!!]

I genuinely had problems understanding what you meant at first, but now, i'd say yes, women do, but men kill women too...if you get me.

 

[CConn]

woman do live longer than men...its a proven fact.

Which is due to men generally working more dangerous jobs, are more likely to commit crimes (that land them in dangerous situations) seeking medical care more rarely than women and one or two other things that I can't remember.

It's rarely claimed (seriously, at least) that women live longer than men due to the female's, uh, disastrous affect on their partner, it's generally about various outside forces, behaviors, and habits that our culture kinda forces men into adhering to.

 

[AndThePickles]

I'm pretty sure women take break-ups just as hard if not harder than guys

Yup.

But yeah, my woman is totally ruining my life

Next week, I am totally gonna make you distraught. Merry Christmas, with an extra helping of grief and stress

 

[I'm Old Greg]

it just seems more stressful for a man to have to go get what he wants in anything in life...

instinct men find a woman and its a woman's choice whether or not to accept the man.

with that in mind., it seems harder on the man having to repeat that over and over.
it seems like woman have more of a choice than having to go and get what they want which leaves a lot less on there shoulders...

and if a relationship is destroyed theirs grife and having to suck it up to go and try and get it all over again instead of waiting for it to happen as like in nature is what is common for a woman.

doesn't it seem with that notion being stretched out with a lot of things it can lead to a burden on a man?

thats why i asked the question cause its hard for me to wrap my head around it.

 

[chaseter]

Women destroy men only when they get married. Once they are married, the man loses all sense of his self and becomes an extension of his wife

 

[I'm Old Greg]

thats another notion ^

thats why its hard for me to wrap my thoughts around it becuase thats another situation with a man i once knew...he gave up his dream for his wife, and now hes ill physically and emotional depressed...he gave up everything for what she wanted first...there just wasn't enough time for him or money which lead to his decline in all ways..he became an extension to her, or a tool to have what she wanted out of life thus his destruction.

and thats just another form of how the man had to do everything to get the woman to chose him to give her what she wanted..

 

[AndThePickles]

it just seems more stressful for a man to have to go get what he wants in anything in life...

instinct men find a woman and its a woman's choice whether or not to accept the man.

with that in mind., it seems harder on the man having to repeat that over and over.
it seems like woman have more of a choice than having to go and get what they want which leaves a lot less on there shoulders...

and if a relationship is destroyed theirs grife and having to suck it up to go and try and get it all over again instead of waiting for it to happen as like in nature is what is common for a woman.

doesn't it seem with that notion being stretched out with a lot of things it can lead to a burden on a man?

thats why i asked the question cause its hard for me to wrap my head around it.

Without going in depth, if we're gonna go by stereotypes here, isn't it "harder" for a woman to get what she wants because men "control" everything? I think you can make your same argument with the gender roles reversed.

Plenty of women ask men out these days, or flirt to the point where it's obvious that they want the man to ask them out. There isn't any sitting around waiting for men to come to them...there's always some sort of effort involved. Men are still "choosing" by asking out who they want to date.

There's just as much grief on the woman's part if things don't work out, and then she in turn has to worry about the next person she'll date, etc.

 

[CConn]

it just seems more stressful for a man to have to go get what he wants in anything in life...

instinct men find a woman and its a woman's choice whether or not to accept the man.

with that in mind., it seems harder on the man having to repeat that over and over.
it seems like woman have more of a choice than having to go and get what they want which leaves a lot less on there shoulders...

and if a relationship is destroyed theirs grife and having to suck it up to go and try and get it all over again instead of waiting for it to happen as like in nature is what is common for a woman.

doesn't it seem with that notion being stretched out with a lot of things it can lead to a burden on a man?

thats why i asked the question cause its hard for me to wrap my head around it.

Truthfully, it seems to me that you've just experienced a break up of some sort, and now - while still in a distressed and highly impaired state of mine - you're trying to make sense of and express the painful and illogical emotions you're currently feeling.

But it's just a guess.

 

[AndThePickles]

thats another notion ^

thats why its hard for me to wrap my thoughts around it becuase thats another situation with a man i once knew...he gave up his dream for his wife, and now hes ill physically and emotional depressed...he gave up everything for what she wanted first...there just wasn't enough time for him or money which lead to his decline in all ways..he became an extension to her, or a tool to have what she wanted out of life thus his destruction.

and thats just another form of how the man had to do everything to get the woman to chose him to give her what she wanted..

Ok, so that could equally be seen as being HIS fault for not staying true to himself. No one forced him to do anything...he chose to give up his dream.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

i don't have a break up, i date woman...i don't like to fall into relationships becuase of things i'v seen heard, talked about and read about that to me holds some truth...

i'v spoken to men who left there wives becuase of what they were turning them into, hating themselves and what they were becoming, either destructive, hateful or controlled and manipulated.

 

[CConn]

Ah, then you're just being a cynic.

I mean, I know people who've gone through some horrible break ups with horrible men and equally horrible women...AND I know people who've been married for 20, 30, 40 years, and are still deliriously happy. Or at least not particularly miserable. I don't think there's one true positive or negative way to look at it. People and their relationships are both good and bad.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

Ok, so that could equally be seen as being HIS fault for not staying true to himself. No one forced him to do anything...he chose to give up his dream.

he loved her and held i guess her love for him as truth...

love is stronger than people if that makes sense to you.

 

[AndThePickles]

love is stronger than people if that makes sense to you.

I am very much in love right now, and I completely disagree with this statement. Life involves using your heart and your head.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

Ah, then you're just being a cynic.

I mean, I know people who've gone through some horrible break ups with horrible men and equally horrible women...AND I know people who've been married for 20, 30, 40 years, and are still deliriously happy. Or at least not particularly miserable. I don't think there's one true positive or negative way to look at it. People and their relationships are both good and bad.

i'm really just trying to calculate it....

i'm not talking about breaks up's i'm talking about the destruction of one species to another species...

in the animal world its clearly seen, i was just curious if it holds truth to men and women.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

I am very much in love right now, and I completely disagree with this statement. Life involves using your heart and your head.

thats why i wonder if women are smarter in that way, women do lie far more than men its been proven...which can lead to the destruction of a man.

i'm just trying to figure it out. the idea of it.

but you see i'm not just saying cause it's female, i'm also including aspects of how men get woman and how woman get men which has been laid out for as far as we've known..i'm not just stating the physical form i'm going deeper than that.

i'm trying to balance all concepts on the side of men and on the side of woman.

 

[AndThePickles]

thats why i wonder if women are smarter in that way, women do lie far more than men its been proven...which can lead to the destruction of a man.

No, it has not been proven. Stereotypes

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I am very much in love right now, and I completely disagree with this statement. Life involves using your heart and your head.

You are saying these things?

 

[AndThePickles]

You are saying these things?

Further proof of the truth of it If I, a super romantic, can recognize these facts of life, anyone can!

 

[CashforStash]

Well it depends who the Woman is

 

[CConn]

i'm really just trying to calculate it....

i'm not talking about breaks up's i'm talking about the destruction of one species to another species...

in the animal world its clearly seen, i was just curious if it holds truth to men and women.

Yeah, and while I used break ups as an example, my overall point still stands - there's many men who live happily and healthily with women.