Doctor Who - Part 2

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

New Torchwood trailer, this looks WAY too... American!
I'm trying to get the girlfriend to watch some old who from the very start. She's not for having it.

Seeing Welsh accents run around like they are in a Hollywood movie is usually bad in any location.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

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We know for certain that Amy was a Ganger at the latest by the Day of the Moon which was when she first saw the door lady.

I'm also curious if that weird moment from the Eleventh Hour won't somehow come back, when we saw little Amelia perk up at the returning Tardis - something that was brushed aside and never elaborated on.

 

[wobbly]

It seems likely to me that

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the switch occurred between the first and 2nd episodes. Basing this on Amy believing she was pregnant in the first, then it's, 'oh, I made a mistake' in the 2nd (maybe the ganger process cannot replicate a foetus, or whoever did the switch didn't want it to).
Would have to watch the previous season again to see if there were any hints there, but that might be over-thinking it.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Did anyone catch

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When he briefly slips into the 10th Doctor's:

"Hello, I'm the Doctor"

he followed up with "Let it go! We've moved on!"

A jab at 10th doctor fans maybe :P

I've always wanted an episode where the doctor had a multiple personality breakdown.

 

[Matt]

It seems likely to me that

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the switch occurred between the first and 2nd episodes. Basing this on Amy believing she was pregnant in the first, then it's, 'oh, I made a mistake' in the 2nd (maybe the ganger process cannot replicate a foetus, or whoever did the switch didn't want it to).
Would have to watch the previous season again to see if there were any hints there, but that might be over-thinking it.

I'm guessing between those two episodes also, there was a good time gap for it to happen in and it makes the most sense. If we go back to series five then one must ask when she managed to get pregnant.

Great episode though. I can't wait for next week.

 

[Matt]

Also does anyone have a link to the next episode's prequel?

Thanks!

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_NLjHUKEro

 

[Gold Samurai]

Next week's prequel


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BTW



Does anyone remember still River's stomach issues in "The Impossible Astronaut"?

I'll let you think about that

 

[Two-Face=Badass]

What's there to think about? Wasn't it also mentioned repeated sightings of the Silence can make you fell off?

 

[chaseter]

A lot of things can happen in an hour.

 

[chamber-music]

BTW

Does anyone remember still River's stomach issues in "The Impossible Astronaut"?

I'll let you think about that

Yep that was very intresting

 

[COMPO]

this episode has to be about Rory going to war for Amy, I really hope he doesn't die but I don't know this whole series has been leading up to that still 'the boy who waited' for amy is now the 'man who went to war' for her. good on ya mate.

 

[Lord Valumart]

If anything this next episode should prove that Rory has been given more character development than Amy.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

Next week's prequel


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What i find interesting is how they worded the ending when the guy warns the hooded figures about who's baby it was that they took and then proceeds to say how mad the Doctor will be or something along them lines.

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If Amy's child, the one she will give birth too, is the same one from within the space suit that regenerated then could it be possible that the Eye Patch lady and whoever she is working for (the hooded people?) are trying to bring back time lords for some reason?

 

[wobbly]

Next week's prequel


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BTW



Does anyone remember still River's stomach issues in "The Impossible Astronaut"?

I'll let you think about that

I dunno why, but I was expecting them to pull those hoods off at the end revealing the Doctor and Rory.

And with River... Well, we know the next episode is about retrieving Amy and her child, and we know River's origins are apparently revealed in it...But I'm gonna say she isn't the little girl (would be a little creepy for the Doc to get romantically involved with Amy's kid)

I figure she will be involved with the group they come up against. Part of her unsavoury past that was hinted at in the weeping angels story.

The twist would be if the 'good man' she kills/killed is Rory

 

[FreeRadical]

DW Confidential after yesterday's episode said:

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Amy was a ganger since the Impossible Astronaut, so it's possible that she was replaced inbetween A Christmas Carol and The Impossible Astronaut

 

[wobbly]

DW Confidential after yesterday's episode said:

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Amy was a ganger since the Impossible Astronaut, so it's possible that she was replaced inbetween A Christmas Carol and The Impossible Astronaut

Ah. So

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she only thought she was pregnant in EP1, concluding that from reacting to the symptoms her real body was going through. The switch could have taken place anywhere after the Xmas special since we know Amy & Rory had spent some time away from the Tardis prior to the Impossible Astronaut.

 

[FreeRadical]

Someone in another forum mentioned,

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the Doctor said Amy wasn't real for a long time, which could be why The Doctor made Rory and Amy sleep in a bunk bed

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

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Why did the doctor destroy her if was so intent on the putty people actually being people?

 

[wobbly]

Might well be nothing, but the company's odd name "Morpeth Jetsan" can be anagrammed into "Phantom Jester".
Not sure what other anagrams can be made from it. Morph something or other...

 

[wobbly]

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Why did the doctor destroy her if was so intent on the putty people actually being people?

I think it's meant to work like this:

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the Ganger's are normally driven by the original consciousness of the real person (the control harnesses we saw in the first part), but the electrical strike in the first part caused the gangers of the factory crew to break their link with the real versions, with the gangers retaining the full 'copied' sentience of the originals, probably a result of that same charge (the intimated the earlier discarded gangers retained some semblance of sentience but not the full personas)

The Doctors ganger can be explained by his own unique nature.

So...Amy's ganger never achieved a sentience of it's own, it was being driven all along by the real Amy's mind and when the Doctor blocked the Fleshes 'signal' to the real Amy with the screwdriver she melted.

 

[FreeRadical]

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Why did the doctor destroy her if was so intent on the putty people actually being people?

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Ganger Amy was mentally linked to real Amy, which explains ganger Amy seeing the lady with the eyepatch and the labour pains (eyepatch lady was saying is she still dreaming? Which means real Amy was asleep while connected to the ganger). By destroying ganger Amy, the link was broken, and the real Amy woke up.

 

[Gold Samurai]

I would have liked a filler episode with just The Doctor and Rory. It's always been The Doctor and female companion.

 

[Kahoot]

I think it's meant to work like this:

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the Ganger's are normally driven by the original consciousness of the real person (the control harnesses we saw in the first part), but the electrical strike in the first part caused the gangers of the factory crew to break their link with the real versions, with the gangers retaining the full 'copied' sentience of the originals, probably a result of that same charge (the intimated the earlier discarded gangers retained some semblance of sentience but not the full personas)

The Doctors ganger can be explained by his own unique nature.

So...Amy's ganger never achieved a sentience of it's own, it was being driven all along by the real Amy's mind and when the Doctor blocked the Fleshes 'signal' to the real Amy with the screwdriver she melted.

That explains why the Doctor said [BLACKOUT]The TARDIS energy made the Gangers stabilize,[/BLACKOUT] and yet she [BLACKOUT]was quite unstabile.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[wobbly]

That explains why the Doctor said [BLACKOUT]The TARDIS energy made the Gangers stabilize,[/BLACKOUT] and yet she [BLACKOUT]was quite unstabile.[/BLACKOUT]

Yup.

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The gangers were unstable, shifting to white face etc, because they did not have that link to their original host forms anymore. The Tardis energy fixed them locking them into their copied forms. Amy's ganger never had her link severed so that same energy had no effect on her, save perhaps to confuse the Tardis sensors (possibly detecting the real Amy's status via that link).