"Drop It Like It's Hot": The Human Torch Threads Merged

[surfergirl]

to answer your question Fantastic Boy, in the Frost script

Spoiler

Johnny burns off his clothes the first couple of times he fully flames on, but then their uniforms are designed to accomodate their powers and the FF uniform doesn't burn. there are two scenes in the Frost script when Johnny is first realizing his powers where he burns of his clothes

 

[Kelly]

Just bumping to the front....

 

[Kelly]

Help is needed....LOL

 

[Kelly]

Q. How will they do Johnny Storm/The Human Torch in the Fantastic Four movie?



One of the problems with CGI fire is that it can look really fake, like it’s not attached to anything actually burning. So how do you create a whole flaming man and make it look real? Fantastic Four’s visual effects supervisor and producer Kurt Williams explains. “There’s not a lot of ‘man on fire’ reference out there that’s very impressive right now and that’s part of the reason we’re very nervous about the Torch,” Williams said. “But at the same time we’re creating him in such a way that we’ve got layers. We’re using real fire elements, and that’s important. Once again, we have to create this effect with him we’re he’s photo real, he’s got to generate fire from within his body, so you’re going to see the skin on his body change as he’s generating that fire.



And that’s going to create an organic feel that will make the audience believe that he’s really on fire. The other thing that we’re very cognizant of, and we’re going to be dealing with on this movie, is that a lot of time, a great deal takes place in exterior. And doing day exterior fire is really hard because you don’t see fire during the day. And a lot of times, the mistake that people make is that they don’t stay true to the actual environment. They’ll make the fire a little more saturated than it really would be, if you were shooting real flames. We’re going to great lengths to stay true to what actual fire would look like in those scenarios. For instance, if you look at the shot of him falling off the mountain there, it’s about integrating- you’re going to have to blow out the fire a little more than you would, in a lot of cases, because that’s the way it would be during the day.”




The Human Torch will be a completely CGI effect when on fire. There will be no stuntmen in flame ******ant suits. “A lot of times when you go with a hybrid approach, where you’ve got partially real men on fire and then you try and match that to CG or simulated fire which is what we’re using. We’re using sims for him. Then oftentimes that crossover calls attention to itself. It was important to us that we stay with one philosophy on all the characters. That’s why we left Doom primarily to prosthetics with the exception of his electrical bolts. That’s why we left Thing predominantly with the suit and we did that on purpose because integrating these effects oftentimes it will feel different, it will look different. One of the things that we learned from looking at a lot of man on fire stuff for instance is that the crossover from life fire to CG fire doesn’t always work all that well. So we’re going to take one approach and we’re going to make you believe it. and we’re creating enough layers of this heat signature, muscle striation. There will be several sublayers of flame that when mixed together, they’re all based on real flame elements for one thing. And once you mix that together, then you will get a very realistic feel. The other thing that we’re going to great lengths to do is to have the interactive lighting on the set actually reflect what really needs to happen if you have a real flaming guy there for instance. So we’re working really hard at that. A lot of times, people don’t take the time to do that. So part of compositing Torch into a shot for instance is making sure that there’s interactive lighting on the walls and ceiling and other actors to sell it. And what interactive lighting we don’t do on the set, we’ll have to create in post.” The element of actor Chris Evans will remain in all stages of the Torch. “For instance, with Johnny, every time he starts to torch up, or if he’s partially torched, we’ll be bringing Chris Evans’ performance back through the effects, so we always have the real actor in the shot, and the real movement. And there’s lots of reasons for that. One is because it will have a more organic feel. It’ll feel more of this world, as opposed to some of the images you find in the comic books. The second thing is, and this is the practical part of the effects business; we have a very short post schedule, and we have a lot of work to do before next May. So as much of that original performance as we can capture, the better off we are. And I think we’ll be able to provide more shots, and a higher level of shots.”
http://actionadventure.about.com/od/fantasticfourfaq/

 

[Kmack]

WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THESE!?!?!

 

[surfergirl]

i think they are from an interview that was posted on the CGI effects a while back

 

[Hunter Rider]

good to hear how there doing the torch as he is the one ive been a bit concerned about b/c as the guy himself said,realistic cgi fire is difficult to achieve

 

[Kmack]

Looking at my avatar, seems they are doing a pretty good job

 

[ultimatefan]

I still had hopes the teaser would show up still in December, but now it looks like Elektra is pretty much a lock.

 

[Kelly]

Yep Elektra is itttttt......

 

[Kelly]

Man on Fire!​

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[Kmack]

Whoa, Wizard is out. I'll have to go get me a copy tomorrow....

 

[Kelly]

Bump

 

[surfergirl]

Whoa, Wizard is out. I'll have to go get me a copy tomorrow....

Kmack, i think that was in an previous issue of Wizard not the upcoming issue.

 

[Kelly]

^^^^^^^^that is correct^^^^^^^^

 

[surfergirl]

i think i have the text from the article saved somewhere on my computer if you would like to read it Kmack! thanks for clearing that up for us Kel, i thought it was older

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Eggscellent Wiz article. Goodlooking out Kel!

 

[surfergirl]

bump

 

[surfergirl]

our Johnny Storm, Chris Evans has been named one of ET's 5 Stars to Watch in 2005! there is a video interview with Chris over at et.tv.yahoo.com. Congratulations Chris! that is quite an honor

http://et.tv.yahoo.com/micro/et2004yir/starstowatchyearinreview/

 

[Kelly]

our Johnny Storm, Chris Evans has been named one of ET's 5 Stars to Watch in 2005! there is a video interview with Chris over at et.tv.yahoo.com. Congratulations Chris! that is quite an honor

http://et.tv.yahoo.com/micro/et2004yir/starstowatchyearinreview/

Woo hoo go Chris...

And I don't think I've ever heard anyone around here say that he could be the next Tom Cruise..... ok maybe a few times...ok....a bunch....ok like 10 million times.......ok maybe thats an exaggeration......he could be though...

 

[surfergirl]

he might be who knows what the future holds but it is good he isn't setting himself up to be disappointed either. after FF he will definetly be more widely known

 

[surfergirl]

do you think when the segment on the 5 stars air on ET the interview with Chris will be longer?

 

[Kmack]

Bumping.....

 

[Kelly]

I'm bumping so that Kmack doesn't have to turn Ksmack...

 

[Kmack]

Thank you albafan It wouldn't have been pleasant....