Endgame Endgame vs Infinity War

[B]

As I said in The Dark Knight vs Avengers: Endgame thread, Endgame is to Infinity War what The Dark Knight Rises is to The Dark Knight, good film(s) that ultimately wrap things up well leaving the viewer feel fulfilled, but at the same time not being as good as what preceded them ie The Dark Knight & Infinity War.

So for me, Infinity War was the better film.

 

[Zyraquis]

Infinity War, hands down for me.

 

[scarlet-witch]

I prefer Infinity War because it had more of the heroes in it for longer periods of time.

 

[Boy Scout]

Infinity War. It’s not even a contest for me. Endgame has much, much, MUCH higher highs, but IW works much better overall as a movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I strongly disagree there. Endgame has way more character development than IW did and it was a far more focused movie. Which is a given since it had less core characters to juggle.

 

[Bren]

Infinity War by a distance. End Game was great but IW was imo just better.

 

[Boy Scout]

I strongly disagree there. Endgame has way more character development than IW did and it was a far more focused movie. Which is a given since it had less core characters to juggle.

Apologies in advance if you were speaking generally and not responding to me.

I can already tell we’re going to have to agree to disagree, because 1) I don’t know in what universe anyone can claim that Endgame was the more focused movie of the two and 2) while you can make several arguments about what one film did better versus the other (in your case character development), I personally think that Infinity War is the better movie when you take all the individual components into account and judge them as two wholes, regardless of the fact that they tell one story.

 

[RoastBeast]

Endgame by miles, tied for top. Infinity War is my most lowest-ranked MCU film.

Better pacing, writing, more character development and growth, more dramatic beats, not dependent on shock gimmicks... so, better film.

 

[AlluAllu]

I feel like Infinity War is more exciting movie, but in the end Endgame wins because how amazing the final hour was.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Apologies in advance if you were speaking generally and not responding to me.

I can already tell we’re going to have to agree to disagree, because 1) I don’t know in what universe anyone can claim that Endgame was the more focused movie of the two and 2) while you can make several arguments about what one film did better versus the other (in your case character development), I personally think that Infinity War is the better movie when you take all the individual components into account and judge them as two wholes, regardless of the fact that they tell one story.

I agree, we're going to have to agree to disagree. Honestly, there is not much a I felt IW did better. Character development? Endgame. Story? Endgame. Action sequences? Maybe IW has more of them, but Endgame's best action sequence tops anything IW did. I basically think Endgame did everything better by far.

 

[Boy Scout]

I agree, we're going to have to agree to disagree. Honestly, there is not much a I felt IW did better. Character development? Endgame. Story? Endgame. Action sequences? Maybe IW has more of them, but Endgame's best action sequence tops anything IW did. I basically think Endgame did everything better by far.

I respect where you’re coming from. I think it also sort of depends on what you look for in a movie and how well these movies specifically succeeded at delivering those things in your view. IW delivered more of those things for me, but I don’t begrudge anyone liking Endgame more.

 

[metaphysician]

Thanos is like a complete different character in endgame and lost everything that actually made me respect him in IW.

How, exactly?

Spoiler

He was a fanatic in the first movie, willing to kill anyone and everyone in the name of his cause. And in this movie, he's. . . still a fanatic, willing to kill anyone and everyone in the name of his cause. The only difference is that this time around, he's not winning. And his response to not-winning, and to evidence that his beliefs aren't correct? Is literally to blame everyone else for not being grateful, and the universe for not working "properly". Which is to say, exactly the kind of thing a fanatic would do.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

This is kind of a toss up for me but I think I have to give the slight edge to Endgame purely because of the character moments and emotional impact and the ingenious way it weaves together the entire MCU to date.

The only reason Endgame doesn't run away with the title is because of where the film leaves Thor at the end of it. As a fan of the character, while I was very happy with the layers and nuance demonstrated by Hemsworth's performance and his development as an actual person, everything else still felt very unsatisfying by the end. I think if you were more of a fan of the other characters in the film you wouldn't feel this way.

But Endgame was still amazing to me. They both are amazing. All in all I'd say Infinity War had better action and intensity but Endgame had more feels.

 

[WBwins]

I'll have to watch again but right now it's Infinity war.I found it to be more Tighter written more Action balance and more easier to follow.

Endgame is more emotional ly satisfying but it was slow at times,Confusing at others and shafted a few of my Faves.

 

[Havok83]

IW. It had better use of characters and was action packed from beginning to end. Endgame was great but the second act went on too long and quite frankly I didnt care for the time heist

 

[HammerDown]

After watching it for the 2nd time i'm still a firm believer that IW is just a better movie.
AEG has plenty of drama and an emotional pay off for being a conclusion for several character's journey. Having said that i feel that IW is a more well defined and structured movie. In terms of action AEG has a better third act but IW has more action spread out throughout and i would even go as far as saying better action.

Thanos only works in AEG because of his incredible portrayal in IW. AEG is incredibly convenient. IW is a more thought out and better executed movie.

 

[ZenTheAvenger]

They are both epic, two of the best films of all time, let alone superhero films.

It's ridiculously hard to choose between them but if I had to, I'd go Endgame, the last battle sequence just elevates it.

Honestly though, choosing is so hard because put together, they are an unstoppable juggernaut.

 

[SkyIsBlue]

Infinity War.

 

[JtheDreamer]

The irony about both films is they lack what Thanos would describe as "balance".

While I can appreciate IW's devotion to developing the big purple baddie and I'm glad he wasn't a cardboard cutout - the movie tipped too far to his side. This was an "Avengers" movie after all. It also heavily featured the Guardians in terms of the core part of the story leaving many Avengers characters with very little to do. The 3rd act in Wakanda alos suffers for it.

Endgame lacked balance between the character work and the action. It also did a 180 with Thanos and while he had some great lines in the final battle, this time he took a back seat to the Avengers in a significant way. It tipped heavily toward comedy and very little action until the CGI orgy at the end.

By the way, BOTH films hide their heavy hitters when it comes to fighting. Hulk got his butt whooped in the beginning of IW never to be seen again. Thor served most of his time on a quest for Stormbreaker and becoming a drunk so that he could get tossed around by Thanos by the time the end of EG happened, along with being a plot device for Cap to wield the Mjolnir. Vision was a plot device in IW, not even making it to EG. Notice the Russo's also danced around him in Civil War as well.

Both films saw the Russos abandoning story-telling in favor of off-screen development ex. Xandar being sacked, Thanos vs. the Asgardians, and Hulk/Banner being merged.

Ultimately, after recently watching both films multiple times - I'd have to go with Infinity War. The first two acts are amazing given the tall task of tying everything together. EndGame spent too much time rehashing. It plays like IW, but in reverse as the heroes are the ones collecting the stones. I would've much preferred a more "original" setting for the big act of the Infinity Saga. Both films leave a lot to be desired in the 3rd act for me though.

 

[Bim]

At this point i cant even decide yet to be honest. I love them both and was shocked by both for completely different reasons, although emotionally Endgame was brutal for me. I hadnt cried that much during a movie, ever lol.

Interesting seeing the different opinions here though. Mine's pending.

 

[Iceman]

As I said in The Dark Knight vs Avengers: Endgame thread, Endgame is to Infinity War what The Dark Knight Rises is to The Dark Knight, good film(s) that ultimately wrap things up well leaving the viewer feel fulfilled, but at the same time not being as good as what preceded them ie The Dark Knight & Infinity War.

So for me, Infinity War was the better film.

I think TDK is a hugger standout vs TDKR personally but can understand people sharing your view.

IW and EG are definitely my favourites from Marvel (overtaking CW).

 

[Confusion]

I can't decide.
I love them both in their own way.
I have more issues with EG than IW tho.

 

[KangConquers]

Endgame by a mile.

 

[Doc Samson]

IW for me as well, although I consider both as just one long movie in the same vein of the Matrix sequels or LOTR.

As others have said, taken on their own, I think EG had the same problem TDKR had, which is being fairly predictable in plot, while simultaneously taking some liberties to close things out.

We all expected some sort of time travel/dimensional element to reverse course. We also expected either IM or Cap (or both) to die, so right away none of those things were shocking, even if still very emotional.

Similarly, there was rampant speculation Blake's character was some incarnation of Nolan's vision for Robin, Tate's identity was spoiled during production, and we all assumed Batman was going to "die" in some form of fashion.

 

[JtheDreamer]

IW for me as well, although I consider both as just one long movie in the same vein of the Matrix sequels or LOTR.

As others have said, taken on their own, I think EG had the same problem TDKR had, which is being fairly predictable in plot, while simultaneously taking some liberties to close things out.

We all expected some sort of time travel/dimensional element to reverse course. We also expected either IM or Cap (or both) to die, so right away none of those things were shocking, even if still very emotional.

The goofy time travel (even though funny is many spots) took the movie's edge away. It also prevented it from feeling more like an original piece in the Infinity Saga in favor rehashing bits from prior movies - hell even from IW.