Entertainment Quality

[Jan Irisi]

Maybe you can get over yourself while you do that.

Perhaps you all can take that bit of advice as well.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

Seems to me like most of you are just accepting this movie as good because you feel like you have to. I mean, you get on the boards and discuss the film everday as you wait for its release. I dunno, it just seems like a lot of you let your love for the series affect your ability to look at the film objectively. You just over look the major flaws in the film and make excuses for it. Who cares if the film was just "supposed" to be an action movie. There is more to the X-Men than action. The producers got the entire Phoenix saga wrong in one single scene...when Cyclops died. After that, the rest of the movie was just wrong. Logan should have been sidelined and Scott should have taken the lead. Logan's story was finished after X2. This should have been an X-Men film that starred Cyclops. Not to metion the film was just jammed full of extremely bad one liners with a ridiculous over the top, generic score. I am just tired of reading all these lame excuses for this movie. It's sad.

I couldn't agree more. Well said.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

What I don't get, is why they're making a wolverine film. They already made 3.

 

[liamoversion2]

Yeah... not only that... there's a Wolverine movie in the works, so why would have been such a crime to push him into the background just a little bit? It could still have been about the four or five main X-men; Jean, Scott, Loga, Storm and Xavier...

 

[liamoversion2]

So what you all are saying is...those who actually found this film entertaining are wrong? Those who saw it as exciting were wrong? Those who didn't pull their hair out over "plot holes" and slash their wrists when Cyclops and the Professor died...they are wrong?

I didn't enjoy Spider-man, am I wrong not to just love it to pieces? I found it tedious. Am I completely wrong? I thought Fantastic Four was a hoot. Am I wrong?

How can people's opinions be wrong? How can an emotional response like enjoyment of a movie be wrong?

I see, if someone is willing to let go of preconceived notions then they are wrong. If one accepts change, they are wrong. Or even, *gasp*, they are not "true" fans. Well, count me in the "not a true fan" category, for I enjoyed this film. I had fun. I was moved. Now I will go flail myself for not being torn up about plot holes and corny one liners.

It's not that you're wrong... it's just that it's so difficult to see how you can accept something that's less than mediocre... because if you do it will just keep happening...

 

[The Kid]

I was entertained by halle berry's sexy body in catwoman. So it's a true classic to me at least, ok, not really but I still like it... Halle was beautiful in every frame... her body well worth the price of admission... I wish she wore that cat suit as storm. Now see, I think it's a great film, others don't, now does that make me wrong? no. I'm right according to my standards for a good film. All it needs is halle berry's body in a sexy catsuit for it to be good. Maybe I'll have other criteria later for different movies, romance, drama, etc, but for catwoman it was all about the berry.

 

[Jan Irisi]

It's not that you're wrong... it's just that it's so difficult to see how you can accept something that's less than mediocre... because if you do it will just keep happening...

But who is to decide what is mediocre? A person likes what a person likes. It's all a big crap shoot. All a person has to do is take a chance. How does one know if one will like a certain food unless one takes a taste first? Sure, the food may look like crap, but you won't know if you like it unless you decide to ignore the fact that it tastes like crap and give it a try. In the end, you may just like it, or you may decide that it tastes like crap too. But at least you gave it a chance.

 

[liamoversion2]

But who is to decide what is mediocre? A person likes what a person likes. It's all a big crap shoot. All a person has to do is take a chance. How does one know if one will like a certain food unless one takes a taste first? Sure, the food may look like crap, but you won't know if you like it unless you decide to ignore the fact that it tastes like crap and give it a try. In the end, you may just like it, or you may decide that it tastes like crap too. But at least you gave it a chance.

I think it's more simple than that... in this case I'm really just talking about a film that's well made.... and if you want to argue that X-men 3 is a well made film, go right ahead. I guess in that case there'd be no way for us to see eye to eye ever... so it would indeed be a pointless pursuit.

 

[Nathan]

But who is to decide what is mediocre? A person likes what a person likes. It's all a big crap shoot. All a person has to do is take a chance. How does one know if one will like a certain food unless one takes a taste first?

We got our first taste with X1. We liked it. We got served something new with X2. It was a delicate taste, we wanted more. Then came X3, bade case of food poisoning.

 

[liamoversion2]

We got our first taste with X1. We liked it. We got served something new with X2. It was a delicate taste, we wanted more. Then came X3, bade case of food poisoning.

Yeah that's what it's like... not only is it (as someone else put it), like a happy meal at McDonald's, but it's like getting food poisoning at the same time

 

[Proteus-X312]

I think this is the best in the trilogy, easy.


No drama? I was highly moved by the final scene between Jean and Logan. I was highly moved by the Prof's death, and the x men's pained reaction. I was moved by the Charles/Magneto relationship, which was nailed completely. Jean and Logan realising in horror Rogue's triangle. If you notice, she is never actually cheated on by Bobby.....but it's that fact that she knew that, even without cheating, shadowcat and bobby could have a closer relationship due to her powers. that was one of the factors in her getting a cure, that she could never have a normal relationship, and would always be jealous and insecure in her powers.

The acting was better too. I actually think Halle Berry gave a damn this time and put in some effort, and Famke did her role proud. Xavier and Magneto had sides brought out in them unseen before. Magneto someone who has deep respect for Charles and Xavier as someone who isn't quite the saint he is made out to be, despite his right reasons for doing so. Ellen Page was fantastic.

The themes of the movie were even more complex and deep, without ever offerign easy awnsers. is a cure right? should it be forced on mutants, even dangerous ones? It made magneto snap. after seeing his family wiped out, and his people persecuted and humiliated, it was the final straw.

This was easily the best of the trilogy, though I love the others dearly.

I agree.Even when Wolverine and Professor X had an agrument over the mental blocks that were placed in Jean's mind.That was great to see because there had been numerous times where Xavier did something unethical with his powers and it came back to haunt him in the comics

 

[Jan Irisi]

We got our first taste with X1. We liked it. We got served something new with X2. It was a delicate taste, we wanted more. Then came X3, bade case of food poisoning.

So you got a dose of food poisoning so automatically it was a poorly executed, poorly written, poorly shot film then. Others at the party did not get the food poisoning however, so....perhaps it was not the film itself that made you ill? Possible?

 

[Nathan]

So you got a dose of food poisoning so automatically it was a poorly executed, poorly written, poorly shot film then. Others at the party did not get the food poisoning however, so....perhaps it was not the film itself that made you ill? Possible?

The others just drank the coke.

 

[liamoversion2]

So you got a dose of food poisoning so automatically it was a poorly executed, poorly written, poorly shot film then. Others at the party did not get the food poisoning however, so....perhaps it was not the film itself that made you ill? Possible?

I think that's taking the analogy a bit too far....

 

[X-Maniac]

The others just drank the coke.

Everyone was served the same 'meal'...the same movie.

The fact you got 'food poisoning' means there is something you reacted to, something 'wrong' with your reaction...

No one said the movie was perfect. I've never yet seen a perfect movie. And X1 and X2 had flaws too. But I enjoyed this one without any food poisoning.

Maybe you are already poisoned? That sounds more like it.

 

[liamoversion2]

Everyone was served the same 'meal'...the same movie.

The fact you got 'food poisoning' means there is something you reacted to, something 'wrong' with your reaction...

No one said the movie was perfect. I've never yet seen a perfect movie. And X1 and X2 had flaws too. But I enjoyed this one without any food poisoning.

Maybe you are already poisoned? That sounds more like it.

Yeah no movie is perfect... but how is that an excuse?

 

[Jan Irisi]

Everyone was served the same 'meal'...the same movie.

The fact you got 'food poisoning' means there is something you reacted to, something 'wrong' with your reaction...

No one said the movie was perfect. I've never yet seen a perfect movie. And X1 and X2 had flaws too. But I enjoyed this one without any food poisoning.

Maybe you are already poisoned? That sounds more like it.

Which is kinda what I was trying to say.

 

[Nathan]

Everyone was served the same 'meal'...the same movie.

The fact you got 'food poisoning' means there is something you reacted to, something 'wrong' with your reaction...

No one said the movie was perfect. I've never yet seen a perfect movie. And X1 and X2 had flaws too. But I enjoyed this one without any food poisoning.

Maybe you are already poisoned? That sounds more like it.

Or your stomach got used to having bad meals served.

 

[liamoversion2]

Or your stomach got used to having bad meals served.

Oh no you dident

 

[liamoversion2]

They just got served good...

 

[Nathan]

Yes I did.




What did I do?

 

[liamoversion2]

Yes I did.




What did I do?

You served them dude...

 

[J.Howlett]

People, there are films that are just not executed as well as others. Sometimes, it's a matter of opinion. Other times, it's a straight fact when looking at the evidence.

Compared to X2, The Last Stand isn't executed all that well on alot of fronts....

Some feel it's opinion. I prefer to think of it as fact.

 

[X-Maniac]

Yeah no movie is perfect... but how is that an excuse?

It's not an excuse. It's a fact of life.

Find me a perfect movie. And X2 is not the oh-so-perfect movie people keep saying it is. There was the Jason/Proteus/Mastermind combo (mixing and matching characters! *Gasp*), William Stryker dying about three times (Wolverine stabs him, Cerebro targets him, he's pinned to a rampart for the water to take him), Deathstrike become a mindless drone with no lines and no connection to Wolverine, everyone is running around in the dam doing different things with different people, and Cyclops is absent most of the movie! Yet it is hailed as the best thing since the dishwasher.

You just have to accept that there are people who enjoy X3. That's all there is to it.

 

[X-Maniac]

Or your stomach got used to having bad meals served.

Those bad meals being X1, X2, Batman Begins, Spider-Man 1 and 2, the other movies I also enjoyed???

Your logic fails here... watch it crumble to dust as if Phoenix focused on it.