Explained: Entitlements/Copy-Protection/etc

[THE LIZARD#1]

Hahahahah dude this entitlement thing rocks, we can make so many jokes out of it like we did with the Wii, however I don't even want to read what the entitlements are because I don't want to get mad, so I'm being ignorant.

 

[Zenien]

It is still a very crappy idea & not even you can justify it Zenien. For such an expensive console I can imagine people making the stupid decision & actually buying such an expensive console & then choosing to want to rent games first. But with Sony taking away that option this decision will only hurt the PS3. No one would want to buy a game they are not sure they would like. I can not wait to see & hear bout the number of PS3 returns. This decision is based on Sony being greedy ****s

Like I said I'm not supporting it. Ideally the developer of the game would get some of that money, extremely ideally, but I don't support lazy ass cheap skates who only buy games used (thereby cutting out the developer and the publisher) who then hide behind their right as a consumer to buy the cheaper product. If a game is being resold, the developers and publishers should get a cut of that, not the greedy store.

 

[블라스]

Some of my games were bought used x the maxxx

 

[Mentok]

You tell em Blas!

You going to be on live in the morning?

 

[블라스]

Yup!

How early should I be there?

 

[Mentok]

Yup!

How early should I be there?

I dont know

 

[블라스]

LOL my mom is making hot dogs for lunch tomorrow!

 

[Zenien]

Some of my games were bought used x the maxxx

And it's not the consumers right to buy used games that I dislike, but how the money made from those used games are distributed. All to the greedy retailers and none to the company that spent millions and years developing the titles.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

That's why you bought Shemnue 2 used I guess. Thanks a lot, Hitler.

 

[Mentok]

So people still think sony will let them play online for free?

They want to charge you a fee on software you already own

 

[Zenien]

Only if you're planning on selling it, if anything it's tactics like this that would enable free online, right? I'm not saying it's perfect, because it sure isn't.

Companies file patents all the time to the point of it being ludicrous, so it remains to be seen if this particular patent pans out.

But if it does, that's pretty stupid, I think the only reason I don't outright hate the concept of the money being restricted to PNP points is because at least it takes the money out of the hands of greedy EB, taht's like, objectively speaking, the only reason.

 

[TrailerCues]

the developers and publishers should get a cut of that, not the greedy store.

Why dont you let the game developers complain about this. Your not a game developer your not getting any of their money & what do you think will happen when people come across this & do not like the idea at all ? This has a very good 98 % chance or so of doing nothing but hurt the PS3. Why dont you simply defend games you like like normal gamers ? You have no right fighting other peoples wars let them do it.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

Like I said I'm not supporting it. Ideally the developer of the game would get some of that money, extremely ideally, but I don't support lazy ass cheap skates who only buy games used (thereby cutting out the developer and the publisher) who then hide behind their right as a consumer to buy the cheaper product. If a game is being resold, the developers and publishers should get a cut of that, not the greedy store.

shut the hell up and it is indeed our right as a consumer to buy cheaper games if you want. neither you or anyone else can prove either wise. if publishers want some money. they should start charging sites like amazon and half.com for fees for games sold.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

And it's not the consumers right to buy used games that I dislike, but how the money made from those used games are distributed. All to the greedy retailers and none to the company that spent millions and years developing the titles.

i agree with this, but to say it is'nt the consumers right to buy a cheaper game is stupid. if the game is used why the **** would i pay full price for it? thats like buying a half eaten sneakers bar for full price while a brand new one costs the same thing. what kinda of logic are you promoting?!

 

[TrailerCues]

if publishers want some money. they should[/qluote]

Make games cheaper & then more would buy them it is as simple as that. The game companies are to blame here not us. This can be compared to what is going on with Music CDs most do not buy them unless they feel (((it is worth it))). So if you blame anyone about people choosing to buy the cheaper product or renting blame the game companies. Zenien you probably do not understand the concept of try before you buy & most like that & want that choice & if the game company wants to truly fight it the only way to do that is to lower the prices this decision will only hurt Sony & the PS3 & you know it

 

[XwolverineX]

A rental store just opened up here, I buy used games, I return games for money, and me and my friends exhange games. As much as I hate it, I think I might go... * Gulp * Wii60.

 

[Zenien]

I don't know how I would feel about it IF it actually happens, patents area dime a thousand.

And it's not like the used games market would dissapear under this new system, your authentication key would have to be managed for the new user, but that's it.

i agree with this, but to say it is'nt the consumers right to buy a cheaper game is stupid. if the game is used why the **** would i pay full price for it? thats like buying a half eaten sneakers bar for full price while a brand new one costs the same thing. what kinda of logic are you promoting?!

The only thing that gets 'used' with a used game is it gets put in a drive and someone touches a manual, it's not like the data on the disc becomes unoptimized with use or anything. At worst there might be a scratch or two, and if its so scratched that the game won't work, the person buying a used game should know the risks in that case. 90 percent of the time the disc is fine anyway, and when bought at EB or whatnot they o check to make sure the used games work.

I'm not saying that consumers don't have the right to be oportunistic cheapskates, but it's BS the way the the money is distributed from those sales. I don't buy used games from stores for just that reason. I think a more controlled system (not as controlled as Sony's limiting the buying and the form of monetary exchange) that ensures some of that money goes back to the developers is a good thing. There are plenty of developers who aren't EA.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

I don't know how I would feel about it IF it actually happens, patents area dime a thousand.

And it's not like the used games market would dissapear under this new system, your authentication key would have to be managed for the new user, but that's it.




The only thing that gets 'used' with a used game is it gets put in a drive and someone touches a manual, it's not like the data on the disc becomes unoptimized with use or anything. At worst there might be a scratch or two, and if its so scratched that the game won't work, the person buying a used game should know the risks in that case. 90 percent of the time the disc is fine anyway, and when bought at EB or whatnot they o check to make sure the used games work.

I'm not saying that consumers don't have the right to be oportunistic cheapskates, but it's BS the way the the money is distributed from those sales. I don't buy used games from stores for just that reason. I think a more controlled system (not as controlled as Sony's limiting the buying and the form of monetary exchange) that ensures some of that money goes back to the developers is a good thing. There are plenty of developers who aren't EA.

how the hell is it oppertunistic? buying things at a cheaper price is part of the economy, thats why stores all over the ****in country have sales, especially around the holidays, thats what keep the stores alive and helps make them ass loads of money( i can bet 100 bucks you go to those sales). its what keep the economy thriving. thats why car dealerships have special deals on buying cars, because they know people would go for it. If you were running this country are economy would've been f'ed up more so then it is now.

and for the love of god zenien everything depreciates in value no matter what it is. and therefore makes the value of the item less then its original price, once again...this is taught in economics, did you fail that course?


yeah EA is'nt the only one around, lets see we have ubisoft,konami, rare,capcom,etc. they make plenty of money, and apparently have assloads more to keep them afloat. its not our fault atari is going bankrupt, they have no ****in worthy franchises, that even makes them worth buying.


and amidst all your *****ing of companies not getting any profit, where they **** are they hunh? i dont see them biatching, about the subject.

like i said if companies wanted to see some profit they should charge the stores and sites such as amazon and half.com for fees. you see how easy and logical this sounds zenien compared to your nonsense?

btw zenien congratulations on condradicting yourself, repeatedly you've been saying that you'll wait for the ps3 to drop in price....well are'nt you being an opportunistic cheapskate?..................oh the irony

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

Hey Golden, I like your avy, who is that?

 

[WhatsHisFace]

How does this copy protection work? Is it the same thing that will keep you from borrowing a game from a friend?

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

yes!! read the article.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

Hey Golden, I like your avy, who is that?

his name is damage, a comic book character and a new member to the JSA comics, coming out in december. read it!!

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

^Dude that guy looks tight as hell.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah he does.

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

Is there a preview of him anywhere?