Fant4stic Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 34

[Eddie]

The only film I've ever attended thinking it looked awful going in was Dragonball Evolution. I'm a far bigger fan of Dragon Ball than I am anything Marvel, and I understood damn well when the movie was announced (years before it released) that the franchise was going to be next to impossible to translate to live action (it started as a gag series, and Looney Tunes-esque gags don't work so well in a realistic medium, and when it went towards action more heavily it starts requiring a Cameron budget just to have a chance). DBE never had a chance. It's one thing to see a next to impossible thing like that for novelty factor. Fantastic Four, on the other hand, is exactly the sort of thing that well over a dozen other films have proven translatable. There's no reason this couldn't have been a Guardians of the Galaxy or Spider-Man caliber film. Why should I give my money to that? This whole idea that you should spend money on a film just to see if it's bad when you already think it looks bad is just bizarre.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Vareity's new article link:http://variety.com/2015/film/news/comic-con-which-films-tv-shows-got-biggest-buzz-data-1201538990/
Comic-Con: Which Films, TV Shows Got Biggest Buzz (Data)

Spoiler: Fantastic Four finished number 8 in overall film

Behind "The Greeen Inferno"?!?!

 

[Sleiek]

Vareity's new article link:http://variety.com/2015/film/news/comic-con-which-films-tv-shows-got-biggest-buzz-data-1201538990/
Comic-Con: Which Films, TV Shows Got Biggest Buzz (Data)

Spoiler: Fantastic Four finished number 8 in overall film

What are the parameters for the ratings? Deadpool and Suicide Squad isn't even in the list and I thought they would be up there with Dawn of Justice.

 

[marvelmadness13]

Behind "The Greeen Inferno"?!?!

Seriously. FFINO is ranked lower than a few things I've never heard of...

 

[Eddie]

Check out the "DELTA" %. It's the lowest on the list. Now look at how improved Man From U.N.C.L.E. was compared to Fant4stic. Looks like the movie coming out one week after FF got a much better promotion from the convention. That looks really great for FF's second week prospects...

 

[ThePhantasm]

DELTA percentage for BvS: +4,000 %

FFINO: +35%

 

[starscream22]

You haven't seen the film yet. Watch the film then judge it.

Jeez this logic is like a broken record!!!

Example:
Me: "I don't wanna go outside right now because it's raining"

Supporter: "Well why don't run out there and get soaked, then judge whether you like it or not."

Me: "......I think I'll pass."

Supporter: "You need to open your mind to new things, it's just water."

Me: "I don't like getting caught in the rain"

Supporter: "Who says it rain? I think you're exaggerating"

Me: .......................

Supporter: "Alright well give me one good reason why getting wet in the rain is bad?"

Supporter: "You can't give me one can you?"

Me: "Yeah, well I'll just wait until it reverts back to snow."

Supporter: "Not as long as Fox has the rights"

Me: "What?"

Supporter: "Nothing.....I'm going to go out and catch a cold now, bye!"

Supporter #2: "If people are out there with umbrellas I hope Nature pays off an Earthquake!"

 

[TeeKay]

Jeez this logic is like a broken record!!!

Example:
Me: "I don't wanna go outside right now because it's raining"

Supporter: "Well why don't run out there and get soaked, then judge whether you like it or not."

Me: "......I think I'll pass."

Supporter: "You need to open your mind to new things, it's just water."

Me: "I don't like getting caught in the rain"

Supporter: "Who says it rain? I think you're exaggerating"

Me: .......................

Supporter: "Alright well give me one good reason why getting wet in the rain is bad?"

Supporter: "You can't give me one can you?"

Me: "Yeah, well I'll just wait until it reverts back to snow."

Supporter: "Not as long as Fox has the rights"

Me: "What?"

Supporter: "Nothing.....I'm going to go out and catch a cold now, bye!"

Supporter #2: "If people are out there with umbrellas I hope Nature pays off an Earthquake!"

Post of the week. Perfectly sums up this thread lol.

 

[Paradox1]

What are the parameters for the ratings? Deadpool and Suicide Squad isn't even in the list and I thought they would be up there with Dawn of Justice.

In the article it says how it's created by combining Twitter,facebook,youtube and other social media. Deadpool, Suicide Squad, FF and XMA didn't release their comic-con trailers online which hurt them in the ratings.

 

[marvelmadness13]

Jeez this logic is like a broken record!!!

Example:
Me: "I don't wanna go outside right now because it's raining"

Supporter: "Well why don't run out there and get soaked, then judge whether you like it or not."

Me: "......I think I'll pass."

Supporter: "You need to open your mind to new things, it's just water."

Me: "I don't like getting caught in the rain"

Supporter: "Who says it rain? I think you're exaggerating"

Me: .......................

Supporter: "Alright well give me one good reason why getting wet in the rain is bad?"

Supporter: "You can't give me one can you?"

Me: "Yeah, well I'll just wait until it reverts back to snow."

Supporter: "Not as long as Fox has the rights"

Me: "What?"

Supporter: "Nothing.....I'm going to go out and catch a cold now, bye!"

Supporter #2: "If people are out there with umbrellas I hope Nature pays off an Earthquake!"

Brilliant analogy.


The fact is hat every single person who says you need to see it before you can judge it is a hypocrite. Using that logic one is required to go see every single movie ever released just to make sure they lIke it or not, and no one does that.

 

[Kelly]

Jeez this logic is like a broken record!!!

Example:
Me: "I don't wanna go outside right now because it's raining"

Supporter: "Well why don't run out there and get soaked, then judge whether you like it or not."

Me: "......I think I'll pass."

Supporter: "You need to open your mind to new things, it's just water."

Me: "I don't like getting caught in the rain"

Supporter: "Who says it rain? I think you're exaggerating"

Me: .......................

Supporter: "Alright well give me one good reason why getting wet in the rain is bad?"

Supporter: "You can't give me one can you?"

Me: "Yeah, well I'll just wait until it reverts back to snow."

Supporter: "Not as long as Fox has the rights"

Me: "What?"

Supporter: "Nothing.....I'm going to go out and catch a cold now, bye!"

Supporter #2: "If people are out there with umbrellas I hope Nature pays off an Earthquake!"

Oh my goodness..... haha

 

[Drz]

Good to hear Fantastic Four is doing better on social media than we believed, and we know its only going to get better when we get the trailer out.

My theaters are now having Fantastic Four posters here and there, I saw Ant-Man stuff at the shopping mall and Mission Impossible tickets are already on pre-sale here. Soon we'll have our FF movie!

 

[Kelly]

Good to hear Fantastic Four is doing better on social media than we believed, and we know its only going to get better when we get the trailer out.

My theaters are now having Fantastic Four posters here and there, I saw Ant-Man stuff at the shopping mall and Mission Impossible tickets are already on pre-sale here. Soon we'll have our FF movie!

Don't speak for everyone...that's just not true.

 

[Sleiek]

In the article it says how it's created by combining Twitter,facebook,youtube and other social media. Deadpool, Suicide Squad, FF and XMA didn't release their comic-con trailers online which hurt them in the ratings.

Hmm. I just thought it was weird to see XMA in the list because they didn't release anything for it either.

Based on what I have been seeing on twitter with the number people talking, BVS, SS, Deadpool, XMA, Maze Runner has a lot of activity and I was expecting them in the top 5.

I don't really know why Maze Runner gets a lot of hype, probably because of Dylan O'Brien. Even Kate Mara said "he's so hot" in FF panel. lol

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I already have a backlog of stuff I actually want to watch. It is going to take a lot more than 'just give it a chance' for me to bump it up in the queue.

 

[Eddie]

I now present a portion from an old article that should make my feelings on over reliance of social media clear...

'Snakes on a Plane' blog buzz forces Hollywood into overdue attitude adjustment
Neva Chonin, Chronicle Critic at Large Published 4:00 am, Monday, June 12, 2006

Look, out in the Internet: It's a meme! It's a movie! It's "Snakes on a Plane," the B-movie that just might transcend its low-budget roots to become the most influential film of the year. Not because of its plot (about, er, snakes on a plane) or its star (the uber-cool Samuel Jackson), but because of the impact it's having in the off-screen, online world.
"Snakes on a Plane" (SoaP for short) won't be released until August. But it's already generated an Internet buzz heard around the world -- a buzz so loud it might signal a seismic shift in the relationship between merchandisers and consumers. SoaP is currently exhibit A in the chaotic debate over viral marketing, an advertising approach that, when it works, publicizes a product contagiously through word of mouth. One might even say that SoaP has started a revolution -- quick, tell a friend!

 

[jaymes_e06]

If that's the case then it could be much worse than we think too.

 

[Paradox1]

Hmm. I just thought it was weird to see XMA in the list because they didn't release anything for it either.

Based on what I have been seeing on twitter with the number people talking, BVS, SS, Deadpool, XMA, Maze Runner has a lot of activity and I was expecting them in the top 5.

I don't really know why Maze Runner gets a lot of hype, probably because of Dylan O'Brien. Even Kate Mara said "he's so hot" in FF panel. lol

Maze Runner is based on a young adult book and those fans are hip on technology and compromise the biggest growing audience. The films based on their books Hunger Games which is good and Insurgent series which is not so good. They come out in droves to support those films I've heard experts call those movies un-floppable. It doesn't hurt that Dylan is in it, he was my choice for Spider-man by the way.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I agree that Social Media can easily be overstated for the positive and negative. I think that it's only part of the equation. Movies like Kick-Ass and Scott Pilgrim were highly anticipated online and that didn't translate to real world dollars.

 

[Krystal]

Let me get this straight...


According to Kebbell, every aspect of Victor's background is faithful to the comic--his gypsy heritage, his mother dying, his father dying of exposure, etc........

and the movie shows us NONE OF THAT!

And every aspect of his origin as a villain---when and how he meets Reed/Ben, his occupation, his relationship with the Storm's, his journey from human to super-villain, his costume, his "powers".........

is UN-faithful and they show us ALL OF THAT!

Wow, thanks Fox.

Also, Fox it was brilliant in a lame, "way too late" kind of way to feed Kebbell all that info on Victor's pre-movie life so that some gullible fans would say........

"see, Fox knows Victor's history and background they just didn't have time to show it!!"

Because they chose not to show it because they didn't give a crap about his background until they got criticism about avoiding/changing it.

Just like they changed many of the teams well-known aspects from horrible to slightly more palatable via re-shoots, edits, dubbed over lines and CGI fixes....AFTER the fans complained!!

I hope all the folks who say they like this version remember how much, much worse it would have been without the true fans critiquing it all along the way.

 

[Orba]

Seriously. FFINO is ranked lower than a few things I've never heard of...

Yeah I had to look that one up since it got a big boost. Its a two year old torture porn from by Eli Roth heavily inspired by the 1980 film Cannibal Holocaust.

All I can say is I'm glad I saw that list so that I now know that it is a film I will never watch.

 

[Drz]

And every aspect of his origin as a villain---when and how he meets Reed/Ben, his occupation, his relationship with the Storm's, his journey from human to super-villain, his costume, his "powers".........

is UN-faithful and they show us ALL OF THAT!

Ultimate Doctor Doom.

It's more faithful to that.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

What are the parameters for the ratings? Deadpool and Suicide Squad isn't even in the list and I thought they would be up there with Dawn of Justice.

Yeah that definatley calls into question the results (Fantastic Four was never gonna be high either way). Particularly considering Deadpool was trending above BVS on Twtter yesterday

 

[C. Lee]

Needs more goat feet.....

 

[marvelmadness13]

Ultimate Doctor Doom.

It's more faithful to that.

But it's not.

Ultimate Doom is/does not:

Named Domashev

A blogger

Wear a Thor 2 Dark Elf mask

Look like melted trash bags

Have human legs

Have blue electric currents in him

Act like Franklin Storm is his father


There is nothing Blogter Domashev has in common with any Doomm