Fant4stic Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - Part 40

[Serpico Jones]

Harry Knowles says Fox president Emma Watts is the person most responsible for butchering the film.

 

[Crimz]

I think we should temper our expectations for Deadpool. It is an R-rated adaptation of a cult property. While I happen to be looking forward to it because I really like Deadpool, I don't see that mixture of slapstick and violence appealing to the majority of the general audience. Even among comic book fans there are a lot of people that hate the character. I do think it will be successful in terms of making a profit if it is a good film, but I'd be surprised if it ends up as some gigantic blockbuster.

Dawn of Justice is the potential game changer.

I hope it does really well, Marvel needs competition to constantly try and improve their films.

 

[Pokkle]

The Behind The Scenes of this should be a movie. With Josh Trank being a Black Guy & MBJ a white Guy. Both guys goes on to winning awards for their acting accomplishments

The teaser will be like this:
"In a world, with a lot of daddy issues...
Fox: It's cloberrin time!
Trank: NOOOOO
one year later
Trank: It's cloberrin time!
Fantastic 4: NOOOOO
This summer"

 

[Eddie]

Harry Knowles says Fox president Emma Watts is the person most responsible for butchering the film.

I thought that guy loved the movie, though. How could she have butchered it if the end result was so damn good?

 

[Erzengel]

I think Deadpool can be like Ant-Man. $175 million domestic and reviews in the 70s and I'd be happy.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

From Joe Carnahan:

"I just think of myself at roughly Trank's age on MI3 & if Twitter had been around then, I would have been a dead man with no career."

"The trolls had it in for Trank. If someone like Nolan had been behind FF, they couldn't get on their knees to *****e that film, fast enough."

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/07/fantastic-four-josh-trank-tweet

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

"The trolls had it in for Trank. If someone like Nolan had been behind FF, they couldn't get on their knees to *****e that film, fast enough."

That's just ****ing ignorant. Plus Nolan is a proven director with a ton of experience under his belt. No comparison. Why are people defending this piece of crap!? Go rave about how Joel Edgerton's directing debut is really good! Talk about how they did it again with MI5. What the hell!

 

[Pokkle]

From Joe Carnahan:

"I just think of myself at roughly Trank's age on MI3 & if Twitter had been around then, I would have been a dead man with no career."

"The trolls had it in for Trank. If someone like Nolan had been behind FF, they couldn't get on their knees to *****e that film, fast enough."

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/07/fantastic-four-josh-trank-tweet

 

[VictorDomashev]

From Joe Carnahan:

"I just think of myself at roughly Trank's age on MI3 & if Twitter had been around then, I would have been a dead man with no career."

"The trolls had it in for Trank. If someone like Nolan had been behind FF, they couldn't get on their knees to *****e that film, fast enough."

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/07/fantastic-four-josh-trank-tweet

Nolan is wrong for the type of movie Fantastic Four needs to be. Dark & Gritty it is not as shown here. If Nolan did Fantastic Four or even Star Wars. Id be pissed. Some directors are not meant for some franchises

 

[The Guard]

I disagree. Figuring out what the problem was is the first step to making sure a disaster like this doesn't happen again.

For FOX, who, one assumes, knows what happened.

 

[Asharad]

From Joe Carnahan:

"I just think of myself at roughly Trank's age on MI3 & if Twitter had been around then, I would have been a dead man with no career."

"The trolls had it in for Trank. If someone like Nolan had been behind FF, they couldn't get on their knees to *****e that film, fast enough."

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/07/fantastic-four-josh-trank-tweet

What is his point? Trank < Nolan. And Nolan is overrated.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Joe Carnahan does realize that the new can do no wrong thing is Marvel Studios? Keep up with your pop culture man.

I disagree with his point by the way. Nolan would never direct a Fantastic Four film so it's a pointless bone headed statement all around.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I didn't care who directed it, I've always wanted this property back where it belongs. A solid name combined with a good vision for the characters could very well have won me over, but let's face it those things were never going to happen in their current environment. I personally don't feel offended by Carnahan's commentary.

 

[The Infernal]

From Joe Carnahan:

"I just think of myself at roughly Trank's age on MI3 & if Twitter had been around then, I would have been a dead man with no career."

"The trolls had it in for Trank. If someone like Nolan had been behind FF, they couldn't get on their knees to *****e that film, fast enough."

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/07/fantastic-four-josh-trank-tweet

What's funny is there's a link to Kinberg's "it's not a disaster" comments defending the film before release. Pretty sure it's a disaster and Kinberg has a hand in that. lol

 

[Eddie]

Something tells me he may really be defending Trank because of his own experience with the studio on the failed attempt to reboot Daredevil...

 

[Dr. Evil]

Yep, really. Dan Castellaneta plays the teacher who berates a 10 year old for having an imagination and then [BLACKOUT]sees a toy plane be teleported away and return covered in sand and disqualifies him from the science fair for "magic tricks."[/BLACKOUT]

Damn shame he didn't do any of his Simpsons voices.

 

[Eddie]

What's funny is there's a link to Kinberg's "it's not a disaster" comments defending the film before release. Pretty sure it's a disaster and Kinberg has a hand in that. lol

I've been saying for ages that he's a hack. Check out Kinberg's writing credits. Almost all badly received films.

 

[Black Narcissus]

EH, I'm bummed this is bad. I don't want any cbm to bomb. Damn shame.

 

[Boom]

Batman is a character that lends himself quite naturally to a "dark and gritty" interpretation. So with Nolan it was a perfect marriage between tone and source material - especially coming off of the hyper-campy Schumacher films. So Carnahan's analogy doesn't exactly cut it here.

The problem with the Story FF films wasn't that they were family-friendly and lighter in tone. It was the awful scripts, awful special effects, awful acting, awful characterizations, and awful action pieces.

The Incredibles was a film aimed at children that perfectly captured the family dynamic of a superhero team. And despite it being a family-friendly film, it featured a villain who, while campy in nature, had killed many of Mr. Incredible's friends and colleagues (one of whom died alone in a cave trying to escape). It was heartfelt, funny, and even serious at times.

I know it's been said time and time again, but The Incredibles presented Fox with the perfect template for a Fantastic Four film. But instead of taking a good, hard look at the content of the Story FF films, they ignorantly pegged the tone as the reason for those films' shortcomings. Hence, let's go grim-dark! Because nothing lends itself to a gritty, realistic interpretation more than a property about a man who stretches, a woman who turns invisible, a man who sets himself on fire, and a man transformed into a giant orange rock monster!

Fox was clueless about this property since day one. Micromanagement and behind-the-scenes drama happen all the time in Hollywood, but they deserve to have the spotlight shined on them here. I have zero pity for them. This movie was made out of shameful pettiness. Nothing more. Now suffer the consequences.

 

[Jason Kane]

From Joe Carnahan:

"I just think of myself at roughly Trank's age on MI3 & if Twitter had been around then, I would have been a dead man with no career."

"The trolls had it in for Trank. If someone like Nolan had been behind FF, they couldn't get on their knees to *****e that film, fast enough."

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/07/fantastic-four-josh-trank-tweet

What absolute twaddle.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

People need to stop defending Trank's childishness, if he didn't like where the film was headed he should have done what Patty Jenkins, Edgar Wright and Michelle McLaren did, drop out of the project.

 

[The Guard]

I think Carnahan's comments are a bit much, but he's not exactly wrong.

The trolls DID have it in for Trank. So did non-trolls.

And a lot of fans would probably have embraced an approach like this or at least given it more of a chance if a director like Chris Nolan had been behind it.

 

[Boom]

I think Carnahan's comments are a bit much, but he's not exactly wrong.

The trolls DID have it in for Trank. So did non-trolls.

And a lot of fans would probably have embraced an approach like this or at least given it more of a chance if a director like Chris Nolan had been behind it.

Can't say I'd be one of those people.

Hell, I was concerned when Nolan was brought on to produce MoS. I simply do not have the desire to see some of these characters given the "dark and gritty" treatment.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

His ****ing comments are just insulting. These guys talk about us like we're idiots when their movies turn out like crap. How about they stop pointing fingers everywhere and take the time to reflect that making that movie was their choice?

 

[ernesth100]

I watched this, and perhaps it was the fact that I watched it with family, but it was actually pretty entertaining.