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Favorite villan other then the joker

Favorite villan?

  • The Penguin (Batman Retuns, 1992)

  • Catwoman (Batman Returns, 1992)

  • Max Shreck (Batman Returns, 1992)

  • The Riddler (Batman Forever, 1995)

  • Two-Face (Batman Forever, 1995)

  • Mr. Freeze (Batman And Robin, 1997)

  • Poisen Ivy (Batman And Robin, 1997)

  • Bane The Random Troll Who Has No Lines (Batman And Robin, 1997)

  • Scarecrow (Batman Begins, 2005)

  • Carmine Falcone (Batman Begins, 2005)


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Just because I don't immediately respond to your idiotic insults means I can't take them?

God I can see it now; you're jumping around beating your chest like an ape because you think you're king of an online argument :whatever:

CFE
No, I'm laughing b/c you're pathetic. You thought you got bullied ... trying to appeal to someone like they'll weep for you. You came at me with insults, and I met in kind.
 
I think Mr Freeze could be very cinematic if handled properly. The animated series episode 'Heart of Ice' (which Schumacher actually drew from, just not enough) sets up a perfect tragic villain. He mirrors Batman himself. Plus the visuals of a man in a weird astronaut-type costume freezeing everything could be wonderfully odd and sinister in the right hands.

However, after B&R, I don't think audiences will take Mr Freeze seriously for atleast 200-300 years.
 
I wasn't bullied. I'd say you're the pathetic one for thinking you got to me, but I'm not dragging this s**t on any further...

Everyone's entitled to their opinions. I just fail to see why you feel the need to undermine all opinions that aren't in sync with your own, which seems to be what you're all about on this forum.

And I'm not the one joking about someone 'having' a crush on me and using the username I decided to use years ago against me.

I mean good god, how juvenile can you get?

To get back to some sense of maturity, I do agree with Kevin that, if handled properly, Mr. Freeze would make for an interesting foe for Batman. I guess for now his portrayal in TAS will have to do.

CFE
 
Wait I didn't say I bullied you. YOU said I bullied you. hahaha

You undermined my opinions, no? And you threw insults at me in a conversation you weren't even apart of. I refuted your opinions with responses of my own.
 
I do agree with Kevin that, if handled properly, Mr. Freeze would make for an interesting foe for Batman. I guess for now his portrayal in TAS will have to do.

CFE

I guess we're lucky Schumacher only got really silly with Freeze, Ivy and Bane, three characters Nolan was never likely to want to use anyway.
 
But you did seem to being trying to get under my skin...or do you not read your own posts beforeposting them?

All you did was poke fun at my user name? What the hell was the point of that?

I came up with that username years ago. And I'll admit, I came up with it was I was immature and thought I was better than everyone else at SHH.

But I came to realize that in order to gain respect here, you have to be respectable and logical.

Now don't get me wrong; I loved Batman Begins. As a Batman fan it was my favorite film of 2005, and I was just as excited as any other fan to see that cowled and bat-winged silhouette flash across the screen for the first time in 8 years.

But for you to come here and say Begins is perfect, and anyone who disagrees is a piece of crap Burton Groupie, and calling people pathetic...I mean, you couldn't be more childish...

CFE
 
I guess we're lucky Schumacher only got really silly with Freeze, Ivy and Bane, three characters Nolan was never likely to want to use anyway.

EXACTLY! So for people to bash it is pointless. You think we wold've gotten villains like Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy on celluloid otherwise?

That's why the previous franchise is still quite commendable. It introduced characters that Nolan won't touch. And it's still as valid as any other form of Batman media.

CFE
 
But you did seem to being trying to get under my skin...or do you not read your own posts beforeposting them?
You didn't read ANY of the posts that predated your injection into the thread ...

ComicFilmExpert said:
All you did was poke fun at my user name? What the hell was the point of that?
That's not all I did. I refuted every single one of your arguments. And I made fun of your user name. But please don't act like you weren't slinging insults my way. You butted in on an argument, and started getting on my case, when I wasn't even talking to you. Not only that, you tried to step on MY opinions ... and then get mad and claim I was doing that to you. You had the whole thing back assward.

ComicFilmExpert said:
I came up with that username years ago. And I'll admit, I came up with it was I was immature and thought I was better than everyone else at SHH.
It is immature. And highly condsending. And the "CFE" after each post doesn't help matters. We know who is talking. Your post has four lines around it that seperate it from everyone else's post. And in the corner you can read whose username it is.

:woot:

ComicFilmExpert said:
But I came to realize that in order to gain respect here, you have to be respectable and logical.
It's not that serious. It's an internet message board community about comic book films. This isn't the Senate. The place is first and foremost a place to have a good time discussing comic book movies. You didn't show me respect, so I didn't show you respect in return. But I was definetely logical, and I made many good points.


But for you to come here and say Begins is perfect
Once again ... where did I say this? Please find it so I you can clarify this issue for me. You are projecting here, and / or making assumptions ... because I never said this once.

Darkest Knight said:
There is MINIMAL flaws to Batman Begins in the first place.

Darkest Knight said:
Where you started bringing up me ignoring faults of BEGINS, I have no idea ... because they weren't even being brought up. And even so, I admitted to it having faults. But the issues had with the movie, are really minor compared to the other films. It is just that damn good.

BTW, if this is my opinion ... who are you to bash it? That's hypocritical. But alas, I never expressed this view. Either way, I'm admitting the film has flaws. And in no way saying its perfect. BTW, I love Burton's Batman movies. You took it as me bashing Burton, and it wasn't like that at all.

Darkest Knight said:
and anyone who disagrees is a piece of crap Burton Groupie, and calling people pathetic...
I never said this either. You didn't even read the first page and/or thread. Go ahead ... read the title out loud. It says "Favorite villain other then the joker" and then there is a poll, correct? At the time there were 9 votes for Scarecrow. Then, this "burton groupie" put down 9 people's opinion by saying this:

RockBottom said:
Lol I don't know how people can vote for the scarecrow in this poll.


I then called him out on this.

And then this was his reasoning ...

Rockbottom said:
Because I think that scarecrow was a extremely boring villain who lacked imagination makes me a Burton groupie? Oh well since he was a creep, we might as forget about the fact there is no back story on him what so ever, that there is no mention of his obsession with fear other than that small line "I respect the power of the mind". The fact he was a creep makes him a good Villain? Wrong. I like Begins, I just don't blind myself its faults, unlike some. Also don't fall as low as name calling, it just makes you look like a moron.

And he was flat out wrong. He was a groupie and he was putting down a completely legitimate option in Scarecrow. Scarecrow is by far better than most of the villains on that poll. And even you agreed that Cillian's performance was awesome. But to say he doesn't know how people can vote for him, insinuating he shouldn't even be up there is damn ridiculous. He was one of the fantastic parts about the movie.

Darkest Knight said:
I mean, you couldn't be more childish...
Were your insults not childish in their own right? I mean you got on my case for light name calling, saying its immature etc. But you fell into the exact same pattern of behavior of calling me names. Do you want me to list them all from the post you made directed at me? And once again, I wasn't even talking to you. You had a clear agenda. I got no beef with you now ... but c'mon, be truthful.
 
So much for being the 'bigger man' :whatever:

and posting my US' initials is just something I do. Leave it at that and leave my username alone...

CFE
 
So much for being the 'bigger man' :whatever:

and posting my US' initials is just something I do. Leave it at that and leave my username alone...

CFE
Dude calm down, I just saw this after we signed the peace treaty. I was just responding to let the general public why I said what I said. I finished the entire post with saying I got no probs with you. Chill, bro.
 
Do your best to respect other people's opinions from now on, and then we'll call it even.

:)

Oh, and don't call me son, bro, kid, chief or anything like that ever again. And don't dismiss my need to end each post with my initials...THEN we'll call it even.

CFE
 
Naw, I just find the CFE deal to be kind of funny ... that's all. You'll have to deal with the bro, son, joe stuff because that's just something I do. There is no demeaning nature to it.

If respect is met on all fronts, I wouldn't have gone at Rockbottom the way I did ... and as long as you treat me and others with respect, and don't have a condscending swag to you ... then yeah, we're even stevens.
 
good deal, bud.

:up:

Besides, life's too short to be cross, especially on a cool board like SHH.

CFE
 
I think Mr Freeze could be very cinematic if handled properly. The animated series episode 'Heart of Ice' (which Schumacher actually drew from, just not enough) sets up a perfect tragic villain. He mirrors Batman himself. Plus the visuals of a man in a weird astronaut-type costume freezeing everything could be wonderfully odd and sinister in the right hands.

However, after B&R, I don't think audiences will take Mr Freeze seriously for atleast 200-300 years.


Id love to see Mr Freeze again. However, I dont think Nolan would be the best guy to bring him back. Hes just not the type of character you could do "realisticaly", ya know? I dont mean that as a slam or anything. I would have loved to see Burtons take on him.


Oh, did you know if you put Dakrest Knight and CFE on ignore this thread gets knocked down to only 6 posts?lol:oldrazz:
 
haha...very funny...

CFE
 
Id love to see Mr Freeze again. However, I dont think Nolan would be the best guy to bring him back. Hes just not the type of character you could do "realisticaly", ya know? I dont mean that as a slam or anything. I would have loved to see Burtons take on him.


Oh, did you know if you put Dakrest Knight and CFE on ignore this thread gets knocked down to only 6 posts?lol:oldrazz:
I only have DarkestKnight on ignore.
 
I only have DarkestKnight on ignore.
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Right first of all ill start with Kev. Your sig quote doesn't work because I didn't actually call him a moron, I was implying he would look idiotic/a moron if he continued to name call.

Okay down to business.

Explain how he was "boring" ?
He had no real unique personality. He had no memorable scenes, his obsession with fear (which is, at least to me his best attribute) was pretty much ignored.

"over the top" and "campy" in his performance. See: Joker, Penguin, Two-Face, Riddler, Poision Ivy, Mr. Freeze from previous movies.
Meh... at least they were entertaining and had a personality (Freeze's and Ivy's were bad personality's but never less at least they had some life to them.

This comment alone isn't what makes you a Burton groupie. It's your posting history and habits. Your past posts don't get deleted, you're a Nolan hater. BTW, this isn't a put down per se ... let alone me slinging mud at you. It's just the truth. You say you're able to call out flaws in Nolan's universe, but you absolutely refrain from doing the same with Burton's riddled version of the mythos.

Have you read my sig? You say CFE stalks you, yet your the one going threw my post history.

Let me break it down for you, son ..

Dont call me son.

and a creepy opposition to Batman.
I don't see how he is a parallel to Batman at all? He is just on the other side of the fence in that he is bad and Batman is good. I can understand how you could say that about Ra's, but not Crane.

Cillian's look alone might be creepier than his mask.
Point being? People want to see the mask, its iconic. You dont think Jack could of been creepy without the white skin? If he didn't have it, you would freak.

Does a villain have to have a back story and be completely over the top to be good?
Not A villain, but this villain would of benefited from a back story and why would he have to be over the top? When did i say or even imply that, your arguing points I didn't even make.

argument against Scarecrow or any other villain in BEGINS exposes the haters for the pieces of crap they are

Ugh... Why do I bother arguing when your going to say things like this?

So when you pop off at the mouth like an absolute idiot saying "Scarecrow shouldn't even be mentioned" makes you look utterly stupid.
When did i say that? I didn't. Again your arguing points I didn't even make. Well played.

Once again, does there have to be. It's up to interpretation. Not to mention, it leaves mystery to the character. As he can still be fleshed out in further installments. You know, because the villain wasn't killed in his movie.
Well if he is perfect as he is, like you say. Then what reason would there be to bring him back to flesh him out?

Yes, it does. He's actually threatning.
Not really. He is threatening in that he can make someone go insane, but thats on a minor scale, and considering Batman now has a mass-produced cure to it, he isn't at all since he is a wimp physically. He thought Ra's plan was to hold the city to Ransom not a kill them all.

You like B89 correct? I see no mention of the flaws of that movie. But oh yeah, you're unbiased. I got on your case b/c your statement alone about Scarecrow makes you stick out like a sore thumb. And by sore thumb, I mean un-adulterated Burton groupie.
Again, look at my sig. Also this isn't about B89 so why bring it up, again, arguing points I haven't made.

Hypocritica, no?
No.

One would have to have the attention span of a 4th grader to find this film boring.
Pathetic statement. Everyone finds things boring that others don't. Deal with it.

And Lucius knowing is never directly stated. It's the un-spoken bond between the two, which is another way to link Bruce back to his father. Awesome on MANY levels.

What the hell are you talking about?

Not all of Gotham ... just that little street corner that the whole movie takes place on.
Actually he poisoned the supplys of Gotham, remember the advert? You must "have the attention span of a 4th grader".

I mean the genious BLOWS UP a CHEMICAL FACTORY.

Yeah blowing up a factory making poison is stupid right? Ends justify the means.
 
Id love to see Mr Freeze again. However, I dont think Nolan would be the best guy to bring him back. Hes just not the type of character you could do "realisticaly", ya know? I dont mean that as a slam or anything. I would have loved to see Burtons take on him.

Oh, I agree, Nolan is not the right director for a villain like Freeze. Definetly Burton, or maybe someone like Sam Raimi (tragic villain) would be a better fit.

Oh, did you know if you put Dakrest Knight and CFE on ignore this thread gets knocked down to only 6 posts?lol:oldrazz:

LOL
 
Right first of all ill start with Kev. Your sig quote doesn't work because I didn't actually call him a moron, I was implying he would look idiotic/a moron if he continued to name call.

I'll stop using it if you want me to, just say so.
 
No doesn't bother me, feel free to keep it. Im just saying.
 
Not going to vote. How do you leave out Ra's Al Ghul?

-R
 
I think Mr Freeze could be very cinematic if handled properly. The animated series episode 'Heart of Ice' (which Schumacher actually drew from, just not enough) sets up a perfect tragic villain. He mirrors Batman himself. Plus the visuals of a man in a weird astronaut-type costume freezeing everything could be wonderfully odd and sinister in the right hands.

However, after B&R, I don't think audiences will take Mr Freeze seriously for atleast 200-300 years.

Haha.
LMAO.

:D
 

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