F'dup Chapters in American History(The Trump Years) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 26

[Reek]

This is insane. You're actually arguing that Trump is acting like an adult with Kim? What about before when he was calling him fat and crazy? Or was that okay? You'll make any excuse for the guy, it's sad. And he also said that his praise was just sarcasm and not to be taken seriously. So that's diplomatic now?

Trump got played by Kim. Big time. And he's the only one who didn't see it, other than his idiot supporters.

Shut up, Little Rocketman!

 

[Sithborg]

I can’t help but feel that there is too much of a resemblance to this with what is currently going on.
Worse perhaps, as children are being seperated from their parents...

Worse. The administration is looking at attempting to revoke naturalized citizenship. Make no mistake, we are at the first stages of a final solution.

 

[Fading]

The GOP itself is only one part of the problem. I want to know what the hell is going on in the minds of the people that vote for this crap. How do you stop people from wanting this to happen and think it's justified?

The people applauding this have a persecution complex and especially resent being "victimized" by people they hate. There is a weird paranoia and they see conspiracies everywhere. A customer I delivered to always watched Fox News, loved Trump, loved his guns, was a proud "deplorable" and believed "they" were trying to "make more of them," meaning Louis Farakhans. He once kept my boss for half an hour just talking about conspiracy theories.

How do you talk to someone that thinks everything is a lie?

I saw a quote that is depressingly accurate.

"It positively chills you to the bone the degree to which white people will accept almost any atrocity if you convince them it's only happening because "these people will not follow the rules""

And so, once again, our country faces the question of ethnic cleansing.

My only glimmer of hope is that this seems to be a step to far for the "evangelicals".

I'm glad I can't understand that warped persecution mindset.

"One day, I might have it as bad as current day minorities, and immigrants have it. So let's treat them as sub human, rip them from their families, and toss good people back to a situation they said was certain death. When people ask why I'm for this, I'll tell them money!"

I mean, regardless of the party in power. Children are being separated from their parents by the thousands, and are being kept in cages. Japanese internment camps were seen as a complete blight, and embarrassing past sin in America. Yet here we are again, caging people because of their birthplace.

 

[Aximili86]

This is insane. You're actually arguing that Trump is acting like an adult with Kim? What about before when he was calling him fat and crazy? Or was that okay?

At. The. Summit.

We're pretty clearly talking about that specifically, rather than the prior stuff. All of that Twitter insult bull****, moronic as it was from Trump, wasn't happening while trying to come to an agreement together. That was back when Kim was threatening to go all Dr Evil with a handful of ICBMs.

Specifics matter. He shouldn't have done the Twitter stuff either, yes, it was stupid. But sure, in the context of the actual summit and leading up to the summit in the immediate sense, yeah, Trump's been acting like an adult on the issue by not going into it with two fists raised.

 

[Fading]

My Aunt is arguing in favor of it. "Well we need a deterrent and it's the Parents fault the kids are going through it, not the Republican Party or Trump." I called ******** so she said that the "law" that is being thrown around to justify this was made in 1997 and you "didn't see any left outrage then." I cannot argue with any Trumptards without them flipping it into "Well the Democrats did it first."

Honest to God I view Trump supporters as subhumans, my family included. They are less than human to me. They deserve to be shunned and ostracized.

Children are being abused and Republicans, Trump and his supporters are happy as can be.

Exactly, CHILDREN. I've always liked to think children were the line. Outside of child predators, that most other people would draw the line at children. Guess not. Apparently politics, and political affiliation comes first.

I really am starting to see this growing hatred of immigrants as some warped mental illness. It's irrational, and now no longer has any limit if children are on the table.

I mean a Superbowl commercial telling the factual founding story of a beer company was boycotted as anti-Trump because it featured an immigrant. I wish I could say a lot of these people would be shocked to find out their ancestors were immigrants too, but that should already be common knowledge.

 

[Morg]

This just in from the Border Patrol: please don't call them cages. I mean, yes, we are holding children in cages, but we prefer you don't call them cages

I don't have a facepalm big enough

 

[Sithborg]

Racism has always been a core tenant of America.

 

[Aximili86]

Tenet.

And yeah, aside from the majority of the country who aren't racists. Yeah.

 

[Sithborg]

The explosion of the Tea Party in response to Obama would say otherwise.

 

[Donner]

Well, funny enough, the states that voted for Trump are racist. As evidenced by their top Google searches for n***** jokes, I hate n******, and n***** president.

 

[DarkKnight]

My Aunt is arguing in favor of it. "Well we need a deterrent and it's the Parents fault the kids are going through it, not the Republican Party or Trump." I called ******** so she said that the "law" that is being thrown around to justify this was made in 1997 and you "didn't see any left outrage then." I cannot argue with any Trumptards without them flipping it into "Well the Democrats did it first."

Honest to God I view Trump supporters as subhumans, my family included. They are less than human to me. They deserve to be shunned and ostracized.

Children are being abused and Republicans, Trump and his supporters are happy as can be.

Well your aunt isn't wrong about this being law before Trump, although, I do agree with you. I do not support the separation of children and parent. Its just wrong. Based on several recent articles I've read there is a lot of support from both Republicans and Democrats to end this which I fully support.
But for you to assume all people that support Trump also support this separation and should be considered subhuman is just silly. I'm from a very conservative state and I have mostly conservative political beliefs but I can tell you most people I speak to around here that are conservative Republicans do not support the separation either. People seem to forget that no matter who is in office, the people that voted them there do not have to always agree with them or their actions. Since I've been old enough to vote, every election that I've taken part in I have personally agreed and disagreed with many things from every president whether I voted for them or not. I find the labeling of people based on political party sides to be silly and overplayed.

 

[squeekness]

Racism has always been a core tenant of America.

I'd like to think I'm not racist, but I get ashamed of my whiteness a lot these days.

 

[Hobgoblin]

Im not one to quote the Bible but Matthew 25: 31-40 comes to mind in regards to how illegal immigrants are treated.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Tenet.

And yeah, aside from the majority of the country who aren't racists. Yeah.

Those that condone racism, vote for it, defend those who perpetrate it, are just as bad as racist. Because they allow racism and racist to thrive. To endure.

 

[Aximili86]

Ah. So, basically "see the issues the same as me and vote in line, or you're a bigot".

Nah, 'cause backlash against that particular mindset isn't in-part why Trump got elected or anything. Nah, couldn't be.

Think I'm done with this section of the forum anyway, we're all basically bashing our heads against the wall at a certain point and nothing's ever going to come of it.

 

[green]

OMFG. Space Force!

 

[samsnee]

This just in from the Border Patrol: please don't call them cages. I mean, yes, we are holding children in cages, but we prefer you don't call them cages

I don't have a facepalm big enough

Because the problem isn't children being torn away from their parents. It's the semantics.

 

[samsnee]

My Aunt is arguing in favor of it. "Well we need a deterrent and it's the Parents fault the kids are going through it, not the Republican Party or Trump." I called ******** so she said that the "law" that is being thrown around to justify this was made in 1997 and you "didn't see any left outrage then." I cannot argue with any Trumptards without them flipping it into "Well the Democrats did it first."

Honest to God I view Trump supporters as subhumans, my family included. They are less than human to me. They deserve to be shunned and ostracized.

Children are being abused and Republicans, Trump and his supporters are happy as can be.

Again, Republicans control Congress, White House, and Supreme Court. I love how their hands are tied by "the law" when Obamacare was also the law of the land but they had no problem trying to dismantle that.

No one is saying that there should be stricter deterrents to parents using children as a means of crossing illegally. But I don't chop off my child's hands when he tries stealing from the cookie jar.

 

[moviedoors]

Think I'm done with this section of the forum anyway, we're all basically bashing our heads against the wall at a certain point and nothing's ever going to come of it.

That’s kinda what happens when you’re the Armond White of the politics forum.

 

[chamber-music]

I'm glad I can't understand that warped persecution mindset.

"One day, I might have it as bad as current day minorities, and immigrants have it. So let's treat them as sub human, rip them from their families, and toss good people back to a situation they said was certain death. When people ask why I'm for this, I'll tell them money!"

I mean, regardless of the party in power. Children are being separated from their parents by the thousands, and are being kept in cages. Japanese internment camps were seen as a complete blight, and embarrassing past sin in America. Yet here we are again, caging people because of their birthplace.

It is even more bizarre considering the United States is a country of immigrants. The diversity of it's population and melting pot of cultures is one of the things that made the country so successful so the hostility towards immigrants/migrants that just want the same thing your ancestors got seems crazy.

I understand wanting to control illegal immigration but I've never been into the xenophobic hatred some people seem to have for people that often just want a better life.

 

[Morg]

It does not matter who started the family separation policy. Even if it was @BarackObama (it wasn't), Trump has consistently bragged about his ability to end Obama's policies. But now he claims he can't end this one?!?! This is now Trump's draconian policy and it should end now.

Good quote

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ah. So, basically "see the issues the same as me and vote in line, or you're a bigot".

Nah, 'cause backlash against that particular mindset isn't in-part why Trump got elected or anything. Nah, couldn't be.

Think I'm done with this section of the forum anyway, we're all basically bashing our heads against the wall at a certain point and nothing's ever going to come of it.

No. Voting for someone who has prove themselves a bigot does that. And Trump is a well known bigot, who ran on a platform of bigotry, whose administration continues to appoint bigots and practice bigoted policy. So at best, they just voted for a person they knew was a bigot. At worst, they themselves are bigots.

I think the vast majority here would be just fine with that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Good quote

It is such an accurate quote, to even argue against it requires Olympic level mental gymnastics.

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

It is even more bizarre considering the United States is a country of immigrants. The diversity of it's population and melting pot of cultures is one of the things that made the country so successful so the hostility towards immigrants/migrants that just want the same thing your ancestors got seems crazy.

I understand wanting to control illegal immigration but I've never been into the xenophobic hatred some people seem to have for people that often just want a better life.

Yep, this is exactly what I think. Especially after visiting The Immigration museum on Ellis Island a couple of times during my various visits over the years to Manhattan.

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

Space Farce

I don't know where to begin...
"It is not enough to merely have an American presence in space. We must have American dominance in space"

"I'm hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces"

This seems apt...

But one was never enough...