F'dup Chapters in American History(The Trump Years) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 29

[Thundercrack85]

If you support Trump at this point you're either a racist or insane.

Every damn month it's a goddamn constitutional crisis.

I have conservative friends but if you support Trump I don't want to know you. You might as well carry around a tiki torch and scream Nazi slogans.

 

[samsnee]

It’s not like Pence won’t sign the same damn bills that Cheetoh will.

 

[Marvolo]

I have relatives and friends who are Trump supporters. I can't understand how otherwise normal, intelligent people would believe a brazen liar who will only screw them over but they won't see the truth.

My father loves Trump. Unfortunately. He despises the Democrats, listens to Fox News, and whatever crazy right wing nonsense appears in his Facebook feed, and watched some uber right wing YouTuber who's name escapes me at the moment. I cant talk politics with him at all. It began when Obama was elected and we argued constantly. I gave up trying to change his mind shortly after Trump was elected.

 

[squeekness]

It’s not like Pence won’t sign the same damn bills that Cheetoh will.

He'll be like the guy who is head of EPA right now -- Just as destructive but going about it so quietly you still think everything is okay when it's not.

 

[squeekness]

If you support Trump at this point you're either a racist or insane.

Every damn month it's a goddamn constitutional crisis.

I have conservative friends but if you support Trump I don't want to know you. You might as well carry around a tiki torch and scream Nazi slogans.

They probably think the same thing about us.

 

[Infinity9999x]

My father loves Trump. Unfortunately. He despises the Democrats, listens to Fox News, and whatever crazy right wing nonsense appears in his Facebook feed, and watched some uber right wing YouTuber who's name escapes me at the moment. I cant talk politics with him at all. It began when Obama was elected and we argued constantly. I gave up trying to change his mind shortly after Trump was elected.

Even though I know we can't easily ascribe blame for the entirety of our political state on one source, but I do believe Fox News to be one of the biggest damaging influences on Politics in the past thirty years. The complete abandon for any attempt at trying to provide reasoned coverage is what has primed a good number of Americans to so easily turn blind eyes to the facts staring them in the face.

It's often because Fox simply doesn't report them.

 

[Marvolo]

Yeah Pence would be worse in that he isnt a totally clueless dip****. He's an actual politician, with experience, and can work with Congress. But now that the Dems have control of the House they can keep Pence in check some, if it comes to that and Trunp is removed from office. There is also the possibility of Pence being removed as well. Personally I think he should be. The vice-president of an illegitiment president is illegitimate too. The new Speaker of the House should become president because the speaker of the House is the only one in the succession chain that wasnt put in office by Russian meddling.

 

[Sithborg]

Pence is dumb, though. He had a reputation for being an idiot in the House. It's just that he is able to put on the veneer of civility that Trump is unable to.

Unfortunely, the GOP would forgive murder rather than to allow Pelosi to ascend to the Presidency.

 

[MaceB]

Even though I know we can't easily ascribe blame for the entirety of our political state on one source, but I do believe Fox News to be one of the biggest damaging influences on Politics in the past thirty years. The complete abandon for any attempt at trying to provide reasoned coverage is what has primed a good number of Americans to so easily turn blind eyes to the facts staring them in the face.

It's often because Fox simply doesn't report them.

Agreed. Fox News ruined our body politic. Most of what is happening is due to the fact that they destroyed certain people's ability to discern fact from fiction.

 

[Raiden]

 

[Marvolo]

Agreed. Fox News ruined our body politic. Most of what is happening is due to the fact that they destroyed certain people's ability to discern fact from fiction.

I keep hoping at some point another corporation or person that leans left will buyout or takeover Fox News. Itd be delicious watching Fox News be cleaned out and "rebooted" as a Leftwing network or just an actual centralist and reasonable news network. Imagine an America without the GOP's propaganda network.

 

[squeekness]

Agreed. Fox News ruined our body politic. Most of what is happening is due to the fact that they destroyed certain people's ability to discern fact from fiction.

This should be some kinda crime.

 

[Sithborg]

I mean, Ailles created the network literally to prevent another Watergate fallout.

 

[green]

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[squeekness]

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[DJ Kornphlake]

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[green]

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[Infinity9999x]

I keep hoping at some point another corporation or person that leans left will buyout or takeover Fox News. Itd be delicious watching Fox News be cleaned out and "rebooted" as a Leftwing network or just an actual centralist and reasonable news network. Imagine an America without the GOP's propaganda network.

Same here. I just don't know what it would take to happen. It's the most successful cable network isn't it?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I agree with you mostly, but it is an easy thing to say if you don’t have conservative loved ones. My mom is a beautiful, god fearing, giving woman for example... she just suffers from this blind spot. People can be good and bad, smart and dumb. That’s why we have to practice kindness... arguing logic to make them wrong doesn’t help unfortunately. I’ve certainly tried.

I found this to be an interesting read.

How the Science of "Blue Lies" May Explain Trump's Support


This has led many people to ask themselves: How does the former reality-TV star get away with it? How can he tell so many lies and still win support from many Americans?

Journalists and researchers have suggested many answers, from a hyperbiased, segmented media to simple ignorance on the part of GOP voters. But there is another explanation that no one seems to have entertained. It is that Trump is telling “blue lies”—a psychologist’s term for falsehoods, told on behalf of a group, that can actually strengthen bonds among the members of that group.


Blue lies are a different category altogether, simultaneously selfish and beneficial to others—but only to those who belong to your group. As University of Toronto psychologist Kang Lee explains, blue lies fall in between generous white lies and selfish “black” ones. “You can tell a blue lie against another group,” he says, which makes it simultaneously selfless and self-serving. “For example, you can lie about your team’s cheating in a game, which is antisocial but helps your team.”


This research—and these stories—highlights a difficult truth about our species: we are intensely social creatures, but we are prone to divide ourselves into competitive groups, largely for the purpose of allocating resources. People can be prosocial—compassionate, empathetic, generous, honest—in their group and aggressively antisocial toward out-groups. When we divide people into groups, we open the door to competition, dehumanization, violence—and socially sanctioned deceit.

If we see Trump’s lies not as failures of character but rather as weapons of war, then we can come to see why his supporters might view him as an effective leader. From this perspective, lying is a feature, not a bug, of Trump’s campaign and presidency.

Research by Alexander George Theodoridis of the University of California, Merced, Arlie R. Hochschild of the University of California, Berkeley, Katherine J. Cramer of the University of Wisconsin–Madison, Maurice Schweitzer of the University of Pennsylvania and others have found that this kind of lying seems to thrive in an atmosphere of anger, resentment and hyperpolarization. Party identification is so strong that criticism of the party feels like a threat to the self, which triggers a host of defensive psychological mechanisms.

For millions and millions of Americans, climate change is a hoax, Hillary Clinton ran a child sex ring out of a pizza parlor and immigrants cause crime. Whether they truly believe those falsehoods or not is debatable—and possibly irrelevant. The research to date suggests that they see those lies as useful weapons in a tribal us-against-them competition that pits the “real America” against those who would destroy it.

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

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[Silvermoon]

Well, in a change from having a tanTrump about Mueller, he had one about Comey this morning instead

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

New York Times: Kushner in contact with Saudi crown prince after journalist's death - CNNPolitics

The President's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, continued to have private conversations with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman following the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, according to The New York Times.

Kushner offered the de facto Saudi ruler advice "about how to weather the storm" following the death of Khashoggi, the Times reported on Saturday, citing a Saudi source familiar with the conversations.

Although White House protocol stipulated that National Security Council staff be present on all phone calls with foreign leaders, Kushner and bin Salman continued to chat informally after Khashoggi's death, the Times reported, citing two former senior American officials and two people briefed by the Saudis.

The White House did not immediately respond to CNN's request for comment on the story.

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

Well, in a change from having a tanTrump about Mueller, he had one about Comey this morning instead

 

[Hotwire]

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[MagnarTheGreat]

Trump's reported choice to replace Kelly is getting out as well.