F'dup Chapters in American History(The Trump Years) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 29

[Manasrepublic]

 

[Limonade]

Because these people have no rhyme, sense, or reason. It somehow went from being furious that people were saying “happy holidays” to imagining people were raging a war on christmas.

The only war on christmas that I know of is the one they raged - going against “peace on earth and good will to men” (“peace for only America and ill will to anyone who isn’t a white/straight/non-immigrant/Christian”)

A yes... the infamous "War on Christmas" that Fox coined so very effectively.

 

[Schlosser85]

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I don’t think a Jesus shield would work for Pence.

 

[squeekness]

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Hee hee,

 

[mclay18]

The Daily Beast - Get Ready for Mueller’s Phase Two: The Middle East Connection
The ‘Russia investigation’ is set to go global. In court filings due to drop in 2019, prosecutors will unveil Middle Eastern countries’ attempts to influence U.S. politics.

Flashback:

New York Times - Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election (April 2018)

I doubt Mueller will have his report ready until late next year or early 2020 at the rate it's expanding unless he's already did the ME investigation already. We only know a fraction of what he's planning, and most of the time, he's already done.

More opportunity for Pelosi and the Democratic House to cut Trump a few more thousand times.

 

[Manasrepublic]

As horrible as Trump is, I just hope he doesn’t do anything as catastrophically stupid, vile, criminal and evil as the horrible Iraq war... the near million if not more innocent Iraqi lives lost and paving the way to ISIS and all of the following horrors and instability. I saw a recent Bush interview on Jimmy Kimmel and it just made me so upset as to why they would have this ******* on and pander to him. Trump and Bush are reprehensible pieces of manure and both should be tried for crimes; Trump in American courts and Bush in the Hague. To see that THESE are the kinds of politicians being produced in recent American history speaks volumes about the gargantuan level of voter idiocy in this country.

 

[AResistor]

As horrible as Trump is, I just hope he doesn’t do anything as catastrophically stupid, vile, criminal and evil as the horrible Iraq war... the near million if not more innocent Iraqi lives lost and paving the way to ISIS and all of the following horrors and instability. I saw a recent Bush interview on Jimmy Kimmel and it just made me so upset as to why they would have this ******* on and pander to him. Trump and Bush are reprehensible pieces of manure and both should be tried for crimes; Trump in American courts and Bush in the Hague. To see that THESE are the kinds of politicians being produced in recent American history speaks volumes about the gargantuan level of voter idiocy in this country.

Eh, I used to hate Bush. Then, I realized the guy truly was a moron and just an easily duped poster boy while the REAL President was Dick Cheney - so that’s who I lay all of it on.

The old meme was Darth and Palpatine, but even with that - I doubt Bush had the wit to even be Darth.

 

[Manasrepublic]

This is true as well. Both Cheney and Bush. But Bush is just as accountable if not more so even if he’s an idiot. He was the president.

 

[antsman41]

With this Russian Spy being convicted today... this better mean NRA is audited/shut down/someone is arrested and the ties to individuals in states like mine - South Dakota. Our incoming racist Governor, Noem, has huge ties to her. As well as Dusty Johnson (Noem’s partner), and our representatives like the scum **** Thune. All have met or dealt with this Butina lady in America and in Russia.

 

[AResistor]

This is true as well. Both Cheney and Bush. But Bush is just as accountable if not more so even if he’s an idiot. He was the president.

While President, I prefer blaming most the people who were responsible rather than a propped up poster boy Cheney and the GOP (notably Karl Rove, among others) in the know paraded around like a horse and pony show. But, that's just me. Placing most of it on Bush is what his masters want you to do.

 

[Sithborg]

With this Russian Spy being convicted today... this better mean NRA is audited/shut down/someone is arrested and the ties to individuals in states like mine - South Dakota. Our incoming racist Governor, Noem, has huge ties to her. As well as Dusty Johnson (Noem’s partner), and our representatives like the scum **** Thune. All have met or dealt with this Butina lady in America and in Russia.

All it really needs to do is to shut down the money stream from Russia. And then, the NRA will start to whither and die. They argued in NY that an illegal insurance deal was needed for them to avoid bankruptcy. They have a money problem.

Funny thing, is apparently one of their first targets for collusion in the presidential election was Rick Scott.

 

[Manasrepublic]

While President, I prefer blaming most the people who were responsible rather than a propped up poster boy Cheney and the GOP in the know paraded around like a horse and pony show. But, that's just me. Placing most of it on Bush is what his masters want you to do.

What I’m arguing is that for all of those who organized and planned that entire mess of a war should be held accountable, but yes I would hold Bush and Cheney more accountable than the rest. It would be a difference between 1 year additional prison time for Bush (who would have to serve 99 years versus the others who should serve 98) Nonetheless, My main point of this is that I hope Trump and his admin do not do something as fatal as this which results in thousands upon thousands of innocent lives being lost.

 

[AResistor]

What I’m arguing is that for all of those who organized and planned that entire mess of a war should be held accountable, but yes I would hold Bush and Cheney more accountable than the rest. It would be a difference between 1 year additional prison time for Bush (who would have to serve 99 years versus the others who should serve 98) Nonetheless, My main point of this is that I hope Trump and his admin do not do something as fatal as this which results in thousands upon thousands of innocent lives being lost.

I may be wrong and someone can correct this - hasn't Trump already killed more people? I know he sends a scary number of bombs, it's like one per 12 minutes.

 

[Manasrepublic]

I may be wrong and someone can correct this - hasn't Trump already killed more people? I know he sends a scary number of bombs.

Really? I didn’t realize he already has? I’ll have to do some research on this

 

[AResistor]

Really? I didn’t realize he already has? I’ll have to do some research on this

According to online Trump drops one bomb per every 12 minutes.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

According to online Trump drops one bomb per every 12 minutes.

You'll need to provide something more than vagaries there. A reputable source. And even if that were true... No, so far Trump has not in any way shape or form been responsible for a policy decision that ultimately ends with an equal amount of deaths as the Iraq invasion.

People who traffic in outrageous hyperbole do the causes they claim to support no favors.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, so far I have not seen anything more egregious than what Obama did. Yes, he has talked up a big game, but so far, nothing to really back it up. A large part because of John Kelly.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

New York Times - Trump Inaugural Fund and Super PAC Said to Be Scrutinized for Illegal Foreign Donations

Federal prosecutors are examining whether foreigners illegally funneled donations to President Trump’s inaugural committee and a pro-Trump super PAC in hopes of buying influence over American policy, according to people familiar with the inquiry.

The inquiry focuses on whether people from Middle Eastern nations — including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates — used straw donors to disguise their donations to the two funds. Federal law prohibits foreign contributions to federal campaigns, political action committees and inaugural funds.

 

[AResistor]

You'll need to provide something more than vagaries there. A reputable source. And even if that were true... No, so far Trump has not in any way shape or form been responsible for a policy decision that ultimately ends with an equal amount of deaths as the Iraq invasion.

People who traffic in outrageous hyperbole do the causes they claim to support no favors.

Got nothing for 12 minutes - just lots of sites with that number from basic google search, which, yeah questionable sources.

Also, that's why I said I'm unsure if Trump has or hasn't yet. He certainly is increasing military attacks to a scary degree and level though.

I have not seen anything more egregious than what Obama did.

Um...

WASHINGTON POST: 'Middle East civilian deaths have soared under Trump [2017 > 2016, 200%]. And the media mostly shrug.' https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3a24d01cdc22

SLATE: Trump Inherited Obama’s Drone War and Made It Bigger

VICE: While No One Is Looking, Trump Is Escalating America’s Drone War

VICE: More bombs, more boots, more casualties

GUARDIAN: US air wars under Trump: increasingly indiscriminate, increasingly opaque

BUSINESS INSIDER: Trump inherited Obama's drone war and he's significantly expanded it in countries where the US is not technically at war

If there's one scary thing about the media currently it's there's little coverage on this, forming perceptions such as the one you gave and way too much time on things such as Trump pretending to drive a truck. If I was conspiratorial, I'd say the military industrial complex is keeping this on the down low; why the media would mostly - as the Washington Post brilliantly put it - "shrug" is otherwise beyond me.

 

[Marvolo]

I don't know. Fox is always harping on about it, but I still see Merry Christmas everywhere. I've never had a workplace tell me I couldn't say it. I know there's still that right wing conspiracy that states Obama banned Christmas, despite compilation videos of him saying Merry Christmas repeatedly exist.

It's irks me that American Christians think they own the whole damn month of December. Christmas is one day out of 31. Its not the only holiday that month. The fools say its PC to say "happy holidays" but it's simply sensible because it covers all holidays and makes no assumptions about a person's beliefs. If I dont know if a person celebrates Christmas why would I say Merry Christmas? It makes no more sense than me saying Happy Kwanza to everyone I see during December.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

New York Times - Trump Inaugural Fund and Super PAC Said to Be Scrutinized for Illegal Foreign Donations

I just want to point out that Maddow has been on this issue for probably over a year now.

 

[Iceman]

My parents in law were whining about political correctness a few night ago and how supposedly only conservatives can be criticized. I'm proud to say my wife said she wants Bernie to run in 2020 and that Trump is a piece of crap. This coming from a woman that voted for him. So there is hope for some people.

Ah, I wouldn’t have expected people to jump from Trump all the way to Bernie. Out of interest (and only if it’s ok to ask), at what point did she decide she was against Trump? Was it a specific event or just everything together? Thanks.

 

[Schlosser85]

It's irks me that American Christians think they own the whole damn month of December. Christmas is one day out of 31. Its not the only holiday that month. The fools say its PC to say "happy holidays" but it's simply sensible because it covers all holidays and makes no assumptions about a person's beliefs. If I dont know if a person celebrates Christmas why would I say Merry Christmas? It makes no more sense than me saying Happy Kwanza to everyone I see during December.

It's irks me that American Christians think they own the whole damn month of December. Christmas is one day out of 31. Its not the only holiday that month. The fools say its PC to say "happy holidays" but it's simply sensible because it covers all holidays and makes no assumptions about a person's beliefs. If I dont know if a person celebrates Christmas why would I say Merry Christmas? It makes no more sense than me saying Happy Kwanza to everyone I see during December.

Combination of a sense of entitlement with an unwarranted persecution complex.

 

[Schlosser85]

“Melania Trump slams opportunists”



Melania Trump slams media ‘opportunists’: ‘They are writing the history and it’s not correct’

 

[moviedoors]

As horrible as Trump is, I just hope he doesn’t do anything as catastrophically stupid, vile, criminal and evil as the horrible Iraq war... the near million if not more innocent Iraqi lives lost and paving the way to ISIS and all of the following horrors and instability. I saw a recent Bush interview on Jimmy Kimmel and it just made me so upset as to why they would have this ******* on and pander to him. Trump and Bush are reprehensible pieces of manure and both should be tried for crimes; Trump in American courts and Bush in the Hague. To see that THESE are the kinds of politicians being produced in recent American history speaks volumes about the gargantuan level of voter idiocy in this country.

Yeah, but he slipped Michelle Obama a piece of candy that one time so it's all okay.