Flight 93 - What really happened?

[ShadowBoxing]

Nothing was faked. Enter reality some day.
It's like some people want or need to believe in these things.

It's like the kids who come around here thinking they can be Batman. Children who feel that they need to live in this fantasy world where there is an evil mastermind behind everything or where you can really become a superhero.

Yeah pretty much.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Yeah pretty much.

Yeah, like I really give a f*** what Mister "My opinion is more important than your opinion because I went to COLLEGE!" thinks about me.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, like I really give a f*** what Mister "My opinion is more important than your opinion because I went to COLLEGE!" thinks about me.

You're right its not like you should let things like facts and learning fly in the face of your opinions.

 

[Bullseye]

Just the fact that the wings of the planes didn't immediately sheer off and fall unto the street below when they hit the Twin Towers at full speed is proof that those planes either A) had been modified somehow, or B) weren't even there. The planes and their wings passed through the steel beams of the buildings as if they were passing through air, as if they didn't even exist...

There's a difference. The Pentagon has a fortified surface. The towers were of different construction and possibly poorly built.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

You're right its not like you should let things like facts and learning fly in the face of your opinions.

I have no problem with "facts and learning", I have a problem with arrogant jerks like you who think they're smarter than everyone else and act in a paternizing way just because they allowed themselves to be endoctrinated by the establishment. "Look at me! I know better than all of you ignorant little fools, because I have a diploma hanging on my wall!"

 

[Carter]

Let me add that there has never been any testing as to what would actually happen if 2 giant airliners slammed into skyscapers.

That business about the wings is pure speculation, and the facts refute it.

 

[Darren Daring]

I have no problem with "facts and learning", I have a problem with arrogant jerks like you who think they're smarter than everyone else and act in a paternizing way just because they allowed themselves to be endoctrinated by the establishment. "Look at me! I know better than all of you ignorant little fools, because I have a diploma hanging on my wall!"

But that's what you say, except without a diploma.

 

[Carter]

I have no problem with "facts and learning", I have a problem with arrogant jerks like you who think they're smarter than everyone else and act in a paternizing way just because they allowed themselves to be endoctrinated by the establishment. "Look at me! I know better than all of you ignorant little fools, because I have a diploma hanging on my wall!"

Hypocrisy.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I have no problem with "facts and learning", I have a problem with arrogant jerks like you who think they're smarter than everyone else and act in a paternizing way just because they allowed themselves to be endoctrinated by the establishment. "Look at me! I know better than all of you ignorant little fools, because I have a diploma hanging on my wall!"

Not at all...everyone asks you for fact, at which I would concede to judgement of others. You don't provide it. You're unable to back up your claims. You fail to see that anything "theory" is possible within the realm of imagination. There is a Goblin that could come into my room and re-arrange my stuff. If you asked me is that possible, "yes it's possible". However the burden of such a theory is to provide proof. You set up a world for yourself where you can always make exceptions. Even if I set up a video camera, you'd just say that Goblin is invisible. An infared scan, you'd say he is too fast. As long as you live in a world where every piece of evidence and facts can and is faked, then you're always right. And if you're always right, then you're the arrogant one.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

There's a difference. The Pentagon has a fortified surface. The towers were of different construction and possibly poorly built.

"Poorly built"?! WTF are you talking about? The Twin Towers were designed to withstand a direct plane crash, a raging inferno, even a freakin' earthquake! They were the best designed towers in the world! Which is one of the reasons why this whole "pancaking" explanation doesn't make sense, because they were designed to break off at one of three sections and leave the rest of the building intact, not to vaporize into thin air as the top thirty floors freakin' FREE FALL towards the ground! Pre-set explosives, controlled demolition, it's as simple as that.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

But that's what you say, except without a diploma.

Why don't you go get yourself banned another 40 or 50 times, Brodie.

 

[Carter]

Or the jet fuel traveled down the elevator shafts in the core of the buildings weakening beams and as each floor fell, more weight was put on the lower floors creating a "pancaking"

 

[Darren Daring]

Why don't you go get yourself banned another 40 or 50 times, Brodie.

AHAHAH, it was like 85

 

[Bullseye]

So, planes crashing into the towers at 600mph doesn't have a effect on how the towers collapsed.

 

[Carter]

Oh, no of course not

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Not at all...everyone asks you for fact, at which I would concede to judgement of others. You don't provide it. You're unable to back up your claims. You fail to see that anything "theory" is possible within the realm of imagination. There is a Goblin that could come into my room and re-arrange my stuff. If you asked me is that possible, "yes it's possible". However the burden of such a theory is to provide proof. You set up a world for yourself where you can always make exceptions. Even if I set up a video camera, you'd just say that Goblin is invisible. An infared scan, you'd say he is too fast. As long as you live in a world where every piece of evidence and facts can and is faked, then you're always right. And if you're always right, then you're the arrogant one.

I have presented an impressive amount of evidence in the past, in many threads, and others have as well, you simply refuse to see it or even consider it, on the grounds that the "official" story makes more sense to you. Well, good for you if the government bulls**t brings you intellectual satisfaction, but the rest of us are gonna keep digging for the truth in the meantime.

 

[Darren Daring]

I have presented an impressive amount of evidence in the past, in many threads, and others have as well, you simply refuse to see it or even consider it, on the grounds that the "official" story makes more sense to you. Well, good for you if the government bulls**t brings you intellectual satisfaction, but the rest of us are gonna keep digging for the truth in the meantime.

Didn't you say you were gonna stop getting involved in this conspiracy stuff, like, four times?

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

Or the jet fuel traveled down the elevator shafts in the core of the buildings weakening beams and as each floor fell, more weight was put on the lower floors creating a "pancaking"

I thought that was already proven by scientist watchdogs to be a bs theory made up by the media to come up with an explanation as to why a building designed to easily withstand the impact of a jet filled with fuel collapsed anyway. That fuel didn't burn hot enough, it burned less than 2,000 degrees.

 

[Bullseye]

I haven't seen any evidence of your conspiracy theory ****.

 

[Carter]

I thought that was already proven by scientist watchdogs to be a bs theory made up by the media to come up with an explanation as to why a building designed to easily withstand the impact of a jet filled with fuel collapsed anyway.

I didn't hear anything about that.
Links?

 

[TheSumOfGod]

So, planes crashing into the towers at 600mph doesn't have a effect on how the towers collapsed.

They were specifically designed to withstand such an impact, AND a raging inferno that would last for hours (they were the tallest buildings in the world for a while, remember?), so NO.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I have presented an impressive amount of evidence in the past, in many threads, and others have as well, you simply refuse to see it or even consider it, on the grounds that the "official" story makes more sense to you. Well, good for you if the government bulls**t brings you intellectual satisfaction, but the rest of us are gonna keep digging for the truth in the meantime.

No you don't, you use more theories and stuff David Icke says...and on rare occasion straw man arguments...to back up what you say, not facts and evidence.

 

[Carter]

I have presented an impressive amount of evidence in the past, in many threads, and others have as well, you simply refuse to see it or even consider it, on the grounds that the "official" story makes more sense to you. Well, good for you if the government bulls**t brings you intellectual satisfaction, but the rest of us are gonna keep digging for the truth in the meantime.

You won't find it in old Star Trek episodes, just so you know

 

[Bullseye]

The floors collapsed before the buildings fell.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I haven't seen any evidence of your conspiracy theory ****.

If he has presented its news to me as well. He tells stories without evidence.