For those who consider themself a Democrat, are you concerned...

[hippie_hunter]

No offense, but...

I'm very frightened of you.

It was a joke dammit

 

[JLBats]

It was a joke dammit

It was the kind of joke where you're the only one who laughs, and the laugh is more manic than humourous.

 

[War Lord]

I think that view is based on truthiness not truth.

I'll let history speak for itself. I'll even send you a couple of bucks so you can cry in your coffee when the Dems lose again.

 

[Spider-Bite]

1. Global Warming is way overblown. Yes it is a problem, but not as big as many say it is. Also, the doomsday "experts" who say it is such a huge problem tend to ignore that global warming is also a natural process.

2. Civil rights. I remember when the Democrats were the party of racism and intolerance also. There were Democrats who opposed civil rights back in the 60's. The Republicans have taken the obvious stance of being against gay marriage and gay rights in general, but against minority or women's rights. George W. Bush's administration is one of the most diverse administrations in history. Republican does not automatically mean racist, though most racists tend to lean Republican.

3. Some strong opposition your party showed when they voted to give the President authority to invade Iraq. The Democrats are now only using Iraq to go against the Republicans. If they truly opposed it, like they you say they have from the beginning they would have voted against giving Bush the authority to do so.

4. I consider myself to be a liberal Republican. I support civil rights. I support gay rights (even gay marriage). I support a lot of liberal idealologies. So, does being a Republican make me what you have said

1. your statement on global warming is part delusional and part false. name one scientist who pretends it isn't a natural process being sped up by man?

2. Dems are always in front of Republicans on civil rights. That is why ever since the 60's the dems have been winning the black vote by a whopping 90%! It's because they were the party that got them the right to vote in the first place. Because a democrat president got King out of a 6 months hard labour sentence for a minor traffic violation, while his opponent critcized him for grand standing.

3. They did not all oppose it from the beginnning. MOst did not. They opposed it before the republicans did. because it takes too long for new information to penetrate their thick skulls. Dean was against it from the beginning. and besides they voted to give authority before Saddam allowed inspectors to inspect. it was the only way to get him to let us inspect. they didn't vote for "go to war anyways even though you don't have to because there inspectors found nothing" they didn't vote for going, they voted for the authority, and based on the available information at the time, it was a good vote. bush's decision to send us there was a horrible decision based on his available information.

4. No I'm talking in general here about the hard core base. some liberals are delusional of course. like complaining about the prayer at a baseball game. Who cares? I don't care, and I dont' even believe in God.

 

[The Overlord]

I'm not American so I can't be expected to know your history.

Seriously, I was raised in Canada and I knew Nixon had an unsucessful run at the White House before being elected President later on. Dude, sue your old university, they ripped you off.

 

[JLBats]

Seriously, I was raised in Canada and I knew Nixon had an unsucessful run at the White House before being elected President later on. Dude, sue your old university, they ripped you off.

I'm a Canadian teenager and I knew it.

 

[hippie_hunter]

1. your statement on global warming is part delusional and part false. name one scientist who pretends it isn't a natural process being sped up by man?

No doubt that it is being sped up by man. I even said that. I'm just saying that it is overblown. Yes it is a problem, but not as big as some say, Al Gore, make it out to be.

2. Dems are always in front of Republicans on civil rights. That is why ever since the 60's the dems have been winning the black vote by a whopping 90%! It's because they were the party that got them the right to vote in the first place. Because a democrat president got King out of a 6 months hard labour sentence for a minor traffic violation, while his opponent critcized him for grand standing.

The Democrats take so much advantage of the black vote. It's not even funny. Why else do you think that the Republicans don't go for the black vote. Because they can win without it.

3. They did not all oppose it from the beginnning. MOst did not. They opposed it before the republicans did. because it takes too long for new information to penetrate their thick skulls. Dean was against it from the beginning. and besides they voted to give authority before Saddam allowed inspectors to inspect. it was the only way to get him to let us inspect. they didn't vote for "go to war anyways even though you don't have to because there inspectors found nothing" they didn't vote for going, they voted for the authority, and based on the available information at the time, it was a good vote. bush's decision to send us there was a horrible decision based on his available information.

The Democrats are just simply using Iraq as political leverage. If they truly opposed it, they would have done so right from the start. It's simple politics now these days.

4. No I'm talking in general here about the hard core base. some liberals are delusional of course. like complaining about the prayer at a baseball game. Who cares? I don't care, and I dont' even believe in God.

I used to be HARD CORE Republican, people can chage.

 

[The Overlord]

I'll let history speak for itself. I'll even send you a couple of bucks so you can cry in your coffee when the Dems lose again.

I never said the Dems couldn't lose, they very well could lose, depending on who they chose and who the Republicans chose and whether or not the Dems can create a good political message. I just think your statement that there was no way the dems can win, is based on your baised opinion and spin, rather than facts.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Now those laws I support. They are what I like to call, common sense laws. I thought you were talking about a complete ban on guns, which I strongly oppose.

those are the gun control laws dems support. republicans try to create the illusion that dems want to take away your right to own a gun, but the truth is that the constitution would have to be ammended for that to happen, and 2/3 of the states absolutely will not ratify it. It absolutely isn't going to happen. but a lot of die hard conservatives subscribe to this illusion that dems will take away their right to own a gun. How often do you actually hear about somebody proposing to outlaw guns?

I am constantly re-evaluating my own beleifs too. Ask Matt and many others, I used to be a die-hard conservative. Though from listening to others, I have adopted to being more centrist/Libertarian. I am proof that conservatives can be open minded and open to change. You are proof that liberals can be close minded (you need to drop that Republican teh sux attitude, there are good Republicans just like there are bad ones. There are bad Democrats just like there are good ones)

there are good and bad of course on both sides. I actually like arnold. and I think the majority of politicians on both sides are selfish. I also suspect that Rudy is genuine.

 

[hippie_hunter]

It was the kind of joke where you're the only one who laughs, and the laugh is more manic than humourous.

.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

I'll let history speak for itself. I'll even send you a couple of bucks so you can cry in your coffee when the Dems lose again.

did you say the same thing about Iraq and WMD's and the 9-11 connection?

 

[Spider-Bite]

No doubt that it is being sped up by man. I even said that. I'm just saying that it is overblown. Yes it is a problem, but not as big as some say, Al Gore, make it out to be.


The Democrats take so much advantage of the black vote. It's not even funny. Why else do you think that the Republicans don't go for the black vote. Because they can win without it.


The Democrats are just simply using Iraq as political leverage. If they truly opposed it, they would have done so right from the start. It's simple politics now these days.


I used to be HARD CORE Republican, people can chage.

1. It is a huge problem. the polar caps are how much smaller than they were 30 years ago?

2. Republicans can't win with it. Their base of support in the south would turn on them.

3. half thruth/ the dems started opposing it even when the majority of voters supported it. I personally think neither party has the right solution on this issue, if you look at this thread I started rescently.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246585

 

[Franklin Richards]

"The president was cautious the president was prudent the president did what a commander in chief should do. No matter how you try to blame it on the president the actual responsibility for it really would be for the troops that were there. Did they search carefully enough? Didn't they search carefully enough?" Rudy Giuliani


That's right Rudy. Blame the troops.

 

[hippie_hunter]

there are good and bad of course on both sides. I actually like arnold. and I think the majority of politicians on both sides are selfish. I also suspect that Rudy is genuine.

Thats good. The ideals of the Republican Party are actually good. Smaller government. Strong defense. Morality. It's just that asshats like Tom DeLay, George W. Bush, and others that give these ideals a bad name.

 

[JLBats]

Smaller government.

Don't like it.

Strong defense.

Don't like it.

Morality.

Never understood or was able to follow it.

 

[hippie_hunter]

1. It is a huge problem. the polar caps are how much smaller than they were 30 years ago?

The polar ice caps have been receeding for thousands of years. It is a natural process. Hell, even Mars's polar ice caps do the same thing. Human activity has obviously sped it up, but I still haven't seen enough proof where it is as big a problem as some say it is.

2. Republicans can't win with it. Their base of support in the south would turn on them.

No, they haven't tried to win it. And the South isn't as racist as it was in the 1960's. It's still in existance but not as bad as it is anymore.

The Republicans ignoring the black vote and the Democrats taking advantage of it are equally bad in my opinion.

3. half thruth/ the dems started opposing it even when the majority of voters supported it. I personally think neither party has the right solution on this issue, if you look at this thread I started rescently.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246585

I have to agree with Matt that I find it ironic that we were having a discussion about securing Iraq's borders when we are having trouble securing our own

 

[hippie_hunter]

Don't like it.



Don't like it.



Never understood or was able to follow it.

Matter of opinions. I support the ideals, not the leaders.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Katrina.

Deficits.

Iraq.

Gay Rights.

Al-Queda.


Those Republicans. Nice work.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Thats good. The ideals of the Republican Party are actually good. Smaller government. Strong defense. Morality. It's just that asshats like Tom DeLay, George W. Bush, and others that give these ideals a bad name.

I'm personally all for government intervention such as affirmative action,although I think it should be done in 12 years. and I support economic intervention to help the economy. but at the same time, I think government spending is way too high. I think both parties support small or large governement only when it helps whatever agenda they are in at the moment. Like gay marriage? that was big government. allowing the federal ban on assault weapons to expire was small government.

I do like the old republicna belief of lower spending though. that was what I liked about dean. he was fiscally conservative. one of the reasons republican voters are turning on Bush is one of the reaosns I think he's worse than any other republican. the deficit.

I honestly do not like the morals of the republican party except for abortion. I think there should be a 3 month time limit, no matter the circumstances. but I disaprove of the rest of their morals. I don't think being christain = being moral. and I swear that's what they use for their argument of morality. they don't come out and say it, but you add it all up. and that's it.

Edit.. God in the classroom? big government
science in the classroom= small government. just another example. small governemnt does not belong to the republican party. they simply use it as an excuse when they don't want to solve a problem. they sit back and say it's not the government's job.

 

[JLBats]

Matter of opinions. I support the ideals, not the leaders.

Well, if you think about it, the Cannibal party has some good strong ideas behind it. Eating people. The use of torture on small babies. Mass orgies in the dining hall of every private school. It's just asshats like Hannibal and Fleshy McSwallows who ruin it for everyone.

 

[Franklin Richards]

At least Fleshy kissed the babies before he dipped them in fondue.

 

[Spider-Bite]

The polar ice caps have been receeding for thousands of years. It is a natural process. Hell, even Mars's polar ice caps do the same thing. Human activity has obviously sped it up, but I still haven't seen enough proof where it is as big a problem as some say it is.


No, they haven't tried to win it. And the South isn't as racist as it was in the 1960's. It's still in existance but not as bad as it is anymore.

The Republicans ignoring the black vote and the Democrats taking advantage of it are equally bad in my opinion.


I have to agree with Matt that I find it ironic that we were having a discussion about securing Iraq's borders when we are having trouble securing our own

the polar caps are 25% smaller than they were 30 years ago. that's dramatic and deadly. if they melt the rest of the way they will disrupt the elninyo cycle that redistrubutes heat to the rest of the planet and cause an ice age. The cycle is wavy, if the caps melt it will straighten out. It's already straighter than it was 10 years ago. The doomsday scenario is real and pending, and I will live to see the effects, unless something is done.

 

[Superman]

I agree. I want either Warner or Joe Biden as the Democratic nominee in 2008. Though Mark Warner could probably win a few Red States, something the Democrats will have to do in '08.

I've had my eye on Joe Biden for some time now. I saw him on "Real Time with Bill Maher" one night and I liked what he had to say and how he said it. If he runs I would consider voting for him.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Gavin Newsom

 

[Spider-Bite]

I've had my eye on Joe Biden for some time now. I saw him on "Real Time with Bill Maher" one night and I liked what he had to say and how he said it. If he runs I would consider voting for him.

I only know a little about Joe Bieden, but I saw him the other day and I liked what he had to say as well. in fact I'm going to look him up right now.