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[MakeMinesMarvel]

Any Vulcan fans?

X-Men: Deadly Genesis is an awesome movie title

 

[Hellion]

Any Vulcan fans?

X-Men: Deadly Genesis is an awesome movie title

Love Vulcan and all the Summer's Brothers...

...Way back when, after X3 but before FC, I suggested A Deadly Genesis/Proteus-mashup/type story to maybe introduce Havok and Vulcan...

ETA: Maybe they could still do it! I always like the title Deadly Genesis too...

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Ok Vulcan I feel is important because he connects to the Shiar and FoX wouldn't have to rush Sophie into Phoenix to soon. I hope Sophie doesn't go Phoenix till she's 30. I want to really get to know Marvel Girl!

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Proteus is a good candidate for a character mashup. Never thought of that one his power set in a different characters body would be amazing.

 

[X-Maniac]

The persistent sniping and anti-Fox agendas in here are really tiring.

Stop spoiling the party, haters... talk about what you want to see or 'do one'...

 

[marvelrobbins]

The persistent sniping and anti-Fox agendas in here are really tiring.

Stop spoiling the party, haters... talk about what you want to see or 'do one'...

That would be too logicil posting only In threads about films you actully want to see.

 

[psylockolussus]

How could it have been a disappointment? The Wolverine and First Class didn't make nearly as much as DoFP. It made exactly as much as Fox wanted it to make and their confidence in the property shows in their future projects.

Because people believe this $70 million estimate profit report from Deadline which is not even official.

Also, that report was just for ticket sales. It didn't include home video sales, product placements, partnerships from other companies, etc..

 

[marvelrobbins]

Because people believe this $70 million estimate profit report from Deadline which is not even official.

Also, that report was just for ticket sales. It didn't include home video sales, product placements, partnerships from other companies, etc..

Because it fits with their anti-fox agenda.

Due to marvel doing all they can to hurt promontal partners for DOFPwas limited.

the problem with spider-man was that sony spent fortune to promate it and it
reportly took home video for it to make any profit.

 

[psylockolussus]

That report doesn't matter to me. Because if DOFP's profit was disappointing then the profit for Interstellar was also disappointing too? Err no. I think they just calculated the estimated production budget/estimated marketing budget/ww box-office gross then just did the math for themselves on how much proft was earned by the studio. It wasn't like those profit actually came from the studios.

Fox will continue to make X-Men films in at least the next 3 years, unlike Sony, which had to reboot Spider-Man again and needed help from another studio because of TASM2's box-office performance.

 

[marvelrobbins]

That report doesn't matter to me. Because if DOFP's profit was disappointing then the profit for Interstellar was also disappointing too? Err no. I think they just calculated the estimated production budget/estimated marketing budget/ww box-office gross then just did the math for themselves on how much proft was earned by the studio. It wasn't like those profit actually came from the studios.

Fox will continue to make X-Men films in at least the next 3 years, unlike Sony, which had to reboot Spider-Man again and needed help from another studio because of TASM2's box-office performance.

Here is the thing Apocalypse was approved before DOFP was released based
on faith for film.Another wolverine film is because of box office performance
worldwide of the Wolverine.Deadpool,Gambit,and the new mutants are because fox was pleased with DOFP.

Deadpool is massive gamble.R rated film.A star with poor record at box office.A director who mostly has special effects on his credits.

 

[Eddie]

Because people believe this $70 million estimate profit report from Deadline which is not even official.

Also, that report was just for ticket sales. It didn't include home video sales, product placements, partnerships from other companies, etc..

Deadline DID take the various partnerships, merchandise, etc. into account, though. That's why Big Hero 6 and various other films with lower box office totals are above DoFP. In addition, the Sony hack shows that Deadline overestimated on those Spidey numbers, so I don't think I'd expect DoFP to have made much more than they're estimating it did.

 

[psylockolussus]

In addition, the Sony hack shows that Deadline overestimated on those Spidey numbers.

Oh see its not even accurate.

 

[Eddie]

Oh see its not even accurate.

You're using the fact that they overestimated on a movie with an insane marketing campaign (as well as a change in merch rights compared to the Raimi films, which not everyone understood) to assume that Days of Future Past made way more than they estimated.

Well then.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

FoX got a lot of $ from me off DoFP. Saw it in theater's 10 times and bought it early on on demand so I could watch it before home release. Definitely buying the Rogue Cut too.

 

[X-Maniac]

Hollywood finances are always a bizarre world to me anyway.

When $70 million is a "disappointment" and actors get paid $20 million or more, it all just seems too unreal to comprehend.

I don't even know what I'd do with $20m, what on earth do the actors do with all that money (apart from appear at fundraisers and get ordinary people to hand over their money!!!). I wouldn't need to work ever again, lol...

The X-Men films have traditionally been hampered by an expensive cast, something Guardians didn't have for a start. And also Avengers can afford an expensive cast with their billion-dollar movies (and even then, it's only RDJ who's raking it in, Whedon got less than a million for the first film so no wonder he's bailing out of that rollercoaster).

The cast shouldn't become bigger than the characters (cough.. Jackman, Lawrence, etc). Guardians proved people will still enjoy a film with a lesser-known cast if it's well-made (and in Guardians' case, many people loved that it was unconnected to the other films so they didn't have to know the backstory of a whole load of movies before they went into the cinema). Disney/Marvel also makes fun, simplistic action-adventure movies without complex plots so that kids (and people overseas who need to read subtitles) can easily understand them.

 

[psylockolussus]

You're using the fact that they overestimated on a movie with an insane marketing campaign (as well as a change in merch rights compared to the Raimi films, which not everyone understood) to assume that Days of Future Past made way more than they estimated.

Well then.

If they didn't get TASM2's profit right, who knows what more mistakes they did for coming up with this report.

IMO, their report is not even an estimate, its merely a speculation.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Would anyone want Liev Schreiber to return? He was the best part of Origins

 

[X-Maniac]

Would anyone want Liev Schreiber to return? He was the best part of Origins

I'd rather not. Let Wolverine 3 focus on some new characters, such as Omega Red. Great chance to introduce Dark Star, one of my faves.

Or use Wolverine 3 as a set up for an Alpha Flight movie. The team come to get Wolverine back, as in the comics. Logan would need allies for that plot to work and while the original story used the rest of the X-Men, his standalone movie would need other characters.

 

[Sithborg]

You want to turn Hugh's last time as Wolverine into a set up movie ala Iron Man 2?

Hell no. Give Jackman and Schrieber the the final fight they deserve. You can still include another villian, but I NEED Mangold to have a Wolvie/Sabertooth fight on par with the Shingen fight.

 

[X-Maniac]

You want to turn Hugh's last time as Wolverine into a set up movie ala Iron Man 2?

Hell no. Give Jackman and Schrieber the the final fight they deserve. You can still include another villian, but I NEED Mangold to have a Wolvie/Sabertooth fight on par with the Shingen fight.

I think that's just complicating the issue with the two Sabretooth portrayals. When is the film set? What happens in that fight? What are its consequences?

And would Liev want to come back after the Origins experience, not to mention the film's bad reviews?

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Let Wolverine 3 focus on some new characters, such as Omega Red. Great chance to introduce Dark Star, one of my faves.

Ok now your speaking my lingo. Omega Red vs Wolverine would be siiiiiiiick! But but but why not a three way?

Spoiler

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

I NEED Mangold to have a Wolvie/Sabertooth fight on par with the Shingen fight.

I didn't want it to end.

Does FoX have the rights to Madripoor?

 

[Sithborg]

I think that's just complicating the issue with the two Sabretooth portrayals. When is the film set? What happens in that fight? What are its consequences?

And would Liev want to come back after the Origins experience, not to mention the film's bad reviews?

When sequel talk was first starting, I believe that he tweeted interest. Whether that will actually happen is another story.

I really, really doubt anyone will really care about Sabertooth looking different.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Would anyone like this family to appear in a future film?

Spoiler

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Any Vulcan fans?

X-Men: Deadly Genesis is an awesome movie title

Loved Vulcan and the Shi'Ar Arc. Fancy reading that again now

Hollywood finances are always a bizarre world to me anyway.

When $70 million is a "disappointment" and actors get paid $20 million or more, it all just seems too unreal to comprehend.

I don't even know what I'd do with $20m, what on earth do the actors do with all that money (apart from appear at fundraisers and get ordinary people to hand over their money!!!). I wouldn't need to work ever again, lol...

The X-Men films have traditionally been hampered by an expensive cast, something Guardians didn't have for a start. And also Avengers can afford an expensive cast with their billion-dollar movies (and even then, it's only RDJ who's raking it in, Whedon got less than a million for the first film so no wonder he's bailing out of that rollercoaster).

The cast shouldn't become bigger than the characters (cough.. Jackman, Lawrence, etc). Guardians proved people will still enjoy a film with a lesser-known cast if it's well-made (and in Guardians' case, many people loved that it was unconnected to the other films so they didn't have to know the backstory of a whole load of movies before they went into the cinema). Disney/Marvel also makes fun, simplistic action-adventure movies without complex plots so that kids (and people overseas who need to read subtitles) can easily understand them.

Rightly so. Shouldn't have to watch movies about other characters to know what's going on in a movie at hand. They handled it great by having it as its own thing, common sense really.

The Guardians I read never met the Avengers, they were their own thing and didn't need interacting with Earth heroes, Sadly it won't last for the movies and theyll force Guardians to Earth or Avengers to space so they meets up