Game of Thrones - Book Readers' Thread - - - - Part 21

[Roose Bolton]

Basically Jaime talking to Blackfish and talking to Edmure. There's no actual violence or attempt to physically take Riverrun, it's the medieval equvilant of a Mexican standoff.

 

[Marvolo]

There's been nothing confirmed so far that even remotely suggested we're getting the Battle of Fire this season (if at all). I'd say it's more a reference to the fact that Dany is going to be at the mercy of Khal Jhaqo and his Khalasar.

Yeah I hadnt heard anything about a Mereen battle being filmed. What do we know about Dany's plot this season?

 

[Roose Bolton]

Yeah I hadnt heard anything about a Mereen battle being filmed. What do we know about Dany's plot this season?

The majority of it is her dealing with Khal Jhaqo and the Dothraki, seeing the Dosh Khaleen again and the different factions that sprung up after Drogo's death. There's been a lot of different Khals and bloodriders cast this year. Daario and Jorah get involved at some point as well.

 

[dude stannis]

To go forward she must go back as the prophecy says. So it probably has to do with her rallying the Khals to storm KL finally.

 

[Reek]

or... gods be good... the khal kills her

 

[Drz]

Yeah I hadnt heard anything about a Mereen battle being filmed.

Battle of Mereen couldn't be done in a black vs. white battle, so they're just making sure our whiter than white Daenerys doesn't have to struggle through anything.

 

[Victarion]

To go forward she must go back as the prophecy says. So it probably has to do with her rallying the Khals to storm KL finally.

High Sparrow gets his uprising against House Lannister and the elites. Peasants seize KL. Tyrells stop supplying KL with foodstuff.


Tyrells and their bannermen roll into KL to subdue the Sparrows. The Sparrows use their numbers and homefield advantage to hold their own against the Tyrells.

The southern countryside is bled dry of knights and peasants tired of being pawns in the game of thrones. Knights and peasants are killing one another.

Cue hordes of Dothraki screamers and a mad queen on dragonback that easily overwhelm the knights and peasants.

 

[Marvolo]

Followed by the Nights King and his undead hordes coming south and raping Westeros.

 

[rashad]

Game of Thrones Season 5 Blu-ray/DVD Trailer
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[Marvolo]

Head's up. The UK blu-ray has over an hour of special features that won't be on the U.S. blu-ray. Courtesy of a member at blu-ray.com:

For this release Amazon UK once again has an exclusive bonus disc with 3 segments:

- The Final Step (25.51)
- The Massacre at Hardhome (28.00)
- Visual Effects of Season 5 (25.36)

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Game-of-Thrones-The-Complete-Fifth-Season-Blu-ray/148393/

Target has an exclusive with The Massacre at Hardhome.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Game-of-Thrones-The-Complete-Fifth-Season-Blu-ray/147476/

^ No pic yet there, but it is on the site if you click the 2nd image option:

http://www.target.com/p/game-of-thrones-season-5-blu-ray-target-exclusive/-/A-50663225

Based on what happened with Season 4, I think it very likely that BB's exclusive bonus disc will be either The Final Step OR Visual Effects of Season 5, with WM getting the other.

I don't know for certain, but that seems the likeliest possibility, with the Amazon UK Exclusive being the best bet for those people most interested in Bonus Content.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=260822&page=9


This also happened with the season 4 release. The UK version is region free so it will play on any blu-ray player no matter where you live. I preordered the Amazon.co.UK version and with shipping it's going to cost me $39 which isn't much more than the $30 I pay for the U.S. releases.

 

[Victarion]

Good news - GRRM is offering his newest book via the Jean Cocteau!!!!

 

[TheVileOne]

For someone who has read the books, I have some questions for someone who recently started watching the show and just burned through seasons 1-3.

The way the first season starts, I get this sense that all of what's happening is futile in comparison to the threat of the White Walkers rising from the dead. Winter will come and an army of the dead will sweep across Westeros, making all these petty political squabbles meaningless.

I feel like the ultimate end game has to be some sort of truce or alliance to put aside everything, and I mean ALL the bloodshed, to unite against the army of the dead.

Are the books building to that? Or is it a different feel? Are Westeros and Super Earth just well and truly screwed?

Here is my basic problem with the ongoing narrative of the TV show. There feels to be very little in the way of the plot progression. The White Walkers keep popping up as this grave, major threat. They are like the sign of how horrible the long winter will be. They show up, advance...and then disappear into the background and no one cares about them anymore.

Then on the other hand, a part of me wonders if the White Walkers are the punishment of Westeros for the evil deeds of man.

 

[Drz]

The books are building up to the conclusion that we need to make love and peace, not war. So we're talking about a truce between the White Walkers and Humans.

Granted, the tv show has introduced characters like this (Spoilers):

Spoiler

White Walker General, called the Night's King and I believe Martin blogged that he may not even have a character like that in the books, but the tv show wanted to give this "elite mascho" character for the audiences to know who is "le bad guy".

Martin is againts stereotypes. This isn't Lord of the Rings.

 

[The Apocalypse]

A truce between the WW and humans? I don't see it. They can't even make peace amongst themselves.

 

[Reek]

Unless Jon is leading them to cleanse the world

 

[Drz]

A truce between the WW and humans? I don't see it. They can't even make peace amongst themselves.

George R.R Martin is a hippie, he won't have his "magnum opus" be about the glorifcation of war in the name of just cause, this aint Lord of the Rings nor Star Wars.

 

[TheVileOne]

But the White Walkers are an army of undead. They are basically zombies, so I'm not sure how there can be peace between humans and White Walkers.

Not even sure how the humans can make peace either.

 

[Drz]

In the books they aren't zombies, they are more like Ice Phantoms or something, here's a few art pieces to give a better idea:

Spoiler

They're also called "the Others" in the book, not White Walkers.

Do we really need another fantasy book where some noble dudes unite a kingdom to keep feudalism save from "the others"?

 

[Victarion]

But the White Walkers are an army of undead. They are basically zombies, so I'm not sure how there can be peace between humans and White Walkers.

Not even sure how the humans can make peace either.

Keep watching.

Book include a dream of Jon in black ice killin crows and leading hordes of wildlings. Dang has dreamed of fighting the Usurper's dogs at the Trident, except they are made of ice. Jon and Dany will probably raze a good deal of Westeros during the Long Night.

 

[TheVileOne]

Keep watching.

Book include a dream of Jon in black ice killin crows and leading hordes of wildlings. Dang has dreamed of fighting the Usurper's dogs at the Trident, except they are made of ice. Jon and Dany will probably raze a good deal of Westeros during the Long Night.

I'm not sure how that equates to making peace. Sounds just like more indiscriminate slaughter to me.

 

[Victarion]

The theme can still be serviced through that scenario, if it does unfold as the dreams did.

Show spoilers for Season Four

Spoiler

Craster's male bastards are taken into the Night's King's lands and turned into White Walkers. So they're essentially a child army.

 

[TheVileOne]

Spoiler

That doesn't sound like a good thing either. That's actually quite horrible what the White Walkers due to those children.

 

[Marvolo]

But the White Walkers are an army of undead. They are basically zombies, so I'm not sure how there can be peace between humans and White Walkers.

Not even sure how the humans can make peace either.

Just to be clear...

White walkers:

Wights:

Wights are reanimated human corpses and make up the bulk of the White Walker's infantry, but they aren't white walkers.

You may have already realized this, but I've encountered more than a few who didn't realize that Wights aren't White Walkers.

 

[TheVileOne]

I know Wights and White Walkers are two different things. However, are you saying the White Walkers aren't some type of undead living humans at all? It seems the Night King was once a living human.

 

[Victarion]

In the books he was a Lord Commander of the Night's Watch that fell in love with a female Other.