Game of Thrones General (Non-Book Related) Discussion Thread - Part 1

I don't think so. Cersei isn't even claiming the throne as a Barantheon. She's claiming it as a Lannister. Look at the tiger sigil all around King's Landing. The throne does not pass to widows as far as I understand it. It'd go to Bobby B's children... and then to his brothers... and after that... to his cousins, nephews, and distant relations in the Barantheon family.
what other Baratheons? As far as the show goes, the entire family is dead which is why she was put on the throne. She get it by default. The only Barathoen we know of is Gendry and he's a bastard
 
Not really. It's pretty clear that she was romantically interested in him, which is why they are progressing that plot point now.
 
what other Baratheons? As far as the show goes, the entire family is dead. She get it by default. The only Barathoen we know of is Gendry and he's a bastard

Doesn't matter. Just because there isn't another Barantheon (which we don't know for sure) doesn't mean that the throne goes to his queen. That's an assumption you're making. I can see why you're making it, but nothing has been said which necessarily supports it. Cersei is a Lannister. The throne doesn't go to brides in the line of succession... as far as I know.
 
Doesn't matter. Just because there isn't another Barantheon (which we don't know for sure) doesn't mean that the throne goes to his queen. That's an assumption you're making. I can see why you're making it, but nothing has been said which necessarily supports it. Cersei is a Lannister. The throne doesn't go to brides in the line of succession... as far as I know.
but thats exactly what happened with the House Barathoen extinct. Whom else would it go to if not Cersei?
 
I already said, to his closest relation. If the family line is really broken, then I imagine the throne would be up for the taking. Which is what happened - Cersei took it for House Lannister. I don't know what what the succession would be if the Baratheon family line died. But neither do you is the point. There's little reason to assume that it gets passed down to Cersei in a patriarchal society like Westeros. And again, look at her banners. Cersei is serving as queen as a Lannister. She's carrying the Lannister sigil. Tyrian mentions how the Lannister forces are coming to Winterfell, not Barantheon forces.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe she's ruling as a Barantheon. I just doubt it. I think King's Landing was in shock when Tommen died, and in all the confusion, Cersei claimed it for herself. She was simply the individual in power who had the opportunity to take it by force, and she did.
 
If the king dies and has no kin or obvious heirs, which had never happened in the 300 years the Iron Throne existed, either a Great Council would be created to choose the next ruler, or it would be a case of who has the most power and inclination to fill the void.
 
and there is quick shot in season 2 of Arya checking out Gendry shirtless working on some steel it's brief but I thought very intentional to show physical attraction




Not really, when she said "I could be your family," it was pretty clear that she had a romantic interest in him.
 
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I know she’s aged but Arya still looks like a kid to me. It’s hard to see her with any guy
 
I know she’s aged but Arya still looks like a kid to me. It’s hard to see her with any guy

That's how I felt about Kirsten Dunst for a long time --had a hard time getting the vampire child "Claudia" from Interview With A Vampire out of my head, plus she has a round doll face kind of like Maisie.
 
My point wasn't that because she was a tomboy, that she didn't have any interest in boys. It just wasn't a focus for her like someone such as Sansa at the time.

The way they played the Arya and Gendry relationship was with more of a friend/sibling vibe than romantic love one.
At first, but the second Arya was checking out Gendry's body, all that friendship went out the window for her, but not for Gendry because he still seen her as a kid, but trust me, that is going to change. Happens all the time. Boys be around their friend's kid sister, not giving a crap about her, until that one day she comes down the stairs at 16, and they realize she is not a kid anymore.
 
At first, but the second Arya was checking out Gendry's body, all that friendship went out the window for her, but not for Gendry because he still seen her as a kid, but trust me, that is going to change. Happens all the time. Boys be around their friend's kid sister, not giving a crap about her, until that one day she comes down the stairs at 16, and they realize she is not a kid anymore.
Some of y’all really took this tiny plot point to levels I didn’t anticipate. :hehe:
 
I guess I had always sorta thought Arya might end up with Gendry myself. :p It does seem like a natural progression to me.
 
I guess I had always sorta thought Arya might end up with Gendry myself. :p It does seem like a natural progression to me.

Gendry and Arya are a call back to when King Robert wanted to join houses with the Starks by marrying his son to one of Ned's daughters, and well, it very well may happen. They do have a great friendship, and their first encounter started with him sticking up for Arya. It's kind of cute to see the first time she sees Gendry in like forever, it's she who is sticking up for him against the Hound. I also hope she and Davos become good friends because he is the reason Gendry is still alive.

Well, I watched the episode again last night, as well as watching the preview of ep 2, so because of the time passed, I'm able to digest the episode with a more clearer head. I'm still not sure where they are taking Dany. For the most part, she was sweet and sincere with Winterfell. She definitely has a look on her face she realized the consequences of her actions when she executed the Tarly's with her talk with Sam. But, when watching the teaser for ep 2, some kind of understanding has to have happened because we do see
Jorah with Heartsbane
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It also looks like she and Sansa might be able to have a sit down and actually talk, which is what they need. Daenerys actually needs that, some one on one conversations with the ladies of Winterfel, including Arya and Lyanna Mormont. Arya would be a good litigator too, because she will support her sister and Lyanna, but at the same time, she has also always loved the stories of the Tageryen sisters who rode their dragons with their brother into battle, and Dany as well as Sansa and Lyanna hearing Arya tell those same stories she was telling Tywin might help them see Dany in a better light. Either way, Dany needs some quality time with Jon's most favorite person in the whole world, Arya, because she is not a typical girl playing the Game of Thrones. It would be kind of neat if Arya started to show Dany and Sansa how to shoot a bow and arrow and to defend themselves properly with a sword.

Now for Jaime. He's still not redeemed in my eyes. Arya last seen him at the Frey's (as well as Bronn, so she know's he is with the Lannisters so keep that in mind if he makes his way up to the North to do whatever he plans on doing that she will know his face) and she will also know he was there because he pretty much killed the rest of the Tullys minus Edmure, whereever he is. But, how is going to explain that? It just doesn't look good on his part that he was still fighting for the very house that brutally executed Robb and Catelyn Stark. And don't forget, Arya was there when she saw them killing her family's army as well as Greywolf, and both she and The Hound watched what they did to her brother. Are they going to go into this in the show, or are they just going to conveniently leave it out like they did when you had Tyrion and Davos talking despite Tyrion being responsible for the death of Davos son? Surprised there were no words about that.

Now Bran. Are we going to see him warg into one of the dragons? After seeing how he is responsible for what happened to Hodor, is he also responsible with what happened to the Mad King? I still have this suspicion he might be also responsible for Dany getting the dragon eggs to begin with. I also think he very well may die because if we still have traitors among the good guys, it would be all to easy to use him to find out who they are, and well, he can't be used if he's no longer alive.

And where is Meera? I know she went back home, but she is too good of a fighter to not be at Winterfell. Unless Bran purposely drove her off because he cares about her that much and doesn't want her killed? Are we going to see Howland Reed, who is someone else besides Sam's books and Bran's visions who can vouch for who Jon really is?
 
honestly.... dont give a **** where meera is lol
 
Meera should stay home. She can't help very much in the fight. She's done her part. If they go back to see her father, she could be there and that'd work.
 
Meera should stay home. She can't help very much in the fight. She's done her part. If they go back to see her father, she could be there and that'd work.
Sure she can. In fact, she's probably a better and more capable fighter against the wights and the White Walkers than Arya would be, considering her experience with handling them.
 
Had it been leaked a few days ago temptation might have gotten the best of me but I can wait it out another 8 hours. I just can't believe this keeps happening.
 

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