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I'm willing to bet $100 that this is going to piss me off somehow.
 
Could you imagine if it were Oliver Queen? Oh man, I'd love to see him sexually harassing male superheroes.
 
I'm willing to bet $100 that this is going to piss me off somehow.

I'll take that bet. It's going to be Vibe and nothing that Vibe is involved in could piss anyone off because no one cares about him.

In the event that you are pissed off by this, the bet is off.
 
Could you imagine if it were Oliver Queen? Oh man, I'd love to see him sexually harassing male superheroes.

Lol, thats what I DON'T want. Not Ollie. :oldrazz::csad: Could you imagine the outrage if it were Superman? Yowch!
 
I'll take that bet. It's going to be Vibe and nothing that Vibe is involved in could piss anyone off because no one cares about him.

In the event that you are pissed off by this, the bet is off.

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Lol, thats what I DON'T want. Not Ollie. :oldrazz::csad: Could you imagine the outrage if it were Superman? Yowch!

lol Remember the uproar from all the media types when Superman "renounced" his American citizenship? It'd be like that X 100. In fact, I think they would correlate the two events to somehow show comics are actively undermining our youth and turning them into gay commies.
 
In all seriousness though, I would be pretty pissed if it were Vibe.
 
lol Remember the uproar from all the media types when Superman "renounced" his American citizenship? It'd be like that X 100. In fact, I think they would correlate the two events to somehow show comics are actively undermining our youth and turning them into gay commies.

I remember that. I bet there would be huge riots everywhere.
 
There aren't many other options. Wally West, Ted Kord.

You see there is just no way that DC can win with this.

If it's someone like Vibe, it would be nothing but a big gigantic middle finger to the gay community by pretending that they're throwing them a bone but in reality, it's a character that no one gives two ****s about. It's pandering at the worst degree and it's insulting to boot.

Now when you start getting into characters that people love, it's even more insulting. With characters like Ted Kord and Wally West, it's insulting to the fans who have read them throughout the years and watched them develop. Their heterosexual relationships (Ted and Barbara, Wally and Linda) have had major impacts on their character arcs. It's one big **** you to the fans of these characters. And it's insulting to the gay community as well because it goes completely against what being a homosexual is. You don't just turn gay like what DC is doing to this character. That's not how it works. It's who you are.

This and the upcoming Northstar wedding are nothing but pathetic attempts by Marvel and DC to pander to other groups and get pointless mainstream media coverage that no one is going to pay attention to. It's them trying to say how up to date and relevant to the times they are when the reality is that they are years behind on how to view the LGBT community. Being gay is not an event. It isn't some sideshow for us to look at through a glass barrier as if we're in a zoo. It's a natural and beautiful thing that has been around forever, not some foreign concept that has just been introduced to us. This form of condescension is one of the most insulting things a person can do to one another.
 
You're not wrong. It'd be much better to create a new character who happens to be gay. Like Batwoman, after 52 or Apollo and Midnighter. The problem is, getting any new character to be that popular is difficult, regardless of sexual orientation, race, etc.
 
You're not wrong. It'd be much better to create a new character who happens to be gay. Like Batwoman, after 52 or Apollo and Midnighter. The problem is, getting any new character to be that popular is difficult, regardless of sexual orientation, race, etc.

The biggest problem IMO is that the comic book industry is dominated by straight white males who have no idea how to write non-straight white males. The Greg Ruckas and Gail Simones are few and far between. I mean seriously, the biggest recent debut of a gay character is freaking Bunker for crying out loud. Bunker sucks, it's like the PC Police came in and installed him to plague us all with his presence.
 
The biggest problem IMO is that the comic book industry is dominated by straight white males who have no idea how to write non-straight white males. The Greg Ruckas and Gail Simones are few and far between. I mean seriously, the biggest recent debut of a gay character is freaking Bunker for crying out loud. Bunker sucks.

That's what I don't understand about people who want more lbgt characters regardless of quality. I'd rather have them stick to what they do well rather than shoehorning in a minority group that they know nothing about. Waid probably had the best moment with a gay couple in recent memory in Daredevil. Rucka is good as well but I've never been been all that high on Simone.

But I also confess that I'm not overly concerned with seeing more characters of a specific group. If they are there, that's cool, if they're not it doesn't particularly bother me. I'm not going to go on a crusade to introduce more bi-racial people because I like to read about good characters regardless of outside appearance.
 
When you have franchises as old and established as Superman and Batman, the diversity is going to be limited. Most DC heroes date back to an era dominated by straight white men.

There is something very uninspiring about making a character solely to appeal to a specific group.
 
Buzz is that it's Nightwing. I would be more than okay with that but I'm thinking it's Tim.
 
If it's the Flash I hope he has a line about how he could no longer outrun his gayness.
 
Hmm...I don't know much about Shazam, but I think that could work for me.
 
Maybe Batman will finally come out of the batcave.

Or the could have Wonder Woman making out with another Amazon if they need more sales.
 
I really don't like this.

I understand why they are trying it, they are giving the LGTB community a hero to look up to, I get it -- and they deserve one. But whoever they pick, be it Dick Grayson, Wally West, Bruce Wayne, Arthur Curry, Connor Kent, anyone it is a bad move.

The LGTB community, so far as DC sees it, is alienated and doesn't have a character to identify with...

But if they change the sexual orientation of one of these characters, then the straight fans who grew up loving and rooting for these characters are then alienated. And before someone says: "Well, just because the character is gay, you can't identify with him anymore? You're a bigot!" ... Think about it. The fact that DC is changing a character's sexual orientation so that gays can identify with that character proves that it is in fact true -- and it works both ways (a gay can find a connection and identify with a gay character and a straight reader can identify and connect with a straight character). If a character I already know and love is made gay, I will have a harder time identifying with him... it doesn't make me a bigot -- it makes me heterosexual. Just as it's harder for me as a white male to identify with the cultural differences, and/or problems specific to a black male or a woman... Again, not a bigot... Just different.

They should create a character that happens to be gay. They shouldn't change an established character -- no matter how prominent the character is. Because believe me, no matter how small a character -- he has die hard fans that this will crush. And I'd imagine that the LGTB community wouldn't want their character like that -- not at the expense of someone else's favorite character.

And now that Didio is saying "he" will be an "iconic character." In the DC Universe, hero wise, that leaves:

1.) Superman (Clark Kent)
2.) Batman (Bruce Wayne)
3.) Green Lantern (Alan Scott)
4.) Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
5.) Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)
6.) Green Lantern (Guy Gardner)
7.) Green Lantern (John Stewart)
8.) Aquaman (Arthur Curry)
9.) Flash (Jay Garrick)
10.) Flash (Barry Allen)
11.) Flash (Wally West)
12.) Flash (Bart Allen)
13.) Nightwing (Dick Grayson)
14.) Red Robin (Tim Drake)
15.) Robin (Damian Wayne)
16.) Martian Manhunter (J'onn J'onz)
17.) Cyborg (Vic Stone)
18.) Hawk Man (Carter Hall)
19.) Superboy (Connor Kent)
20.) Green Arrow (Oliver Queen)
21.) Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)

If anyone of those characters are changed -- there is going to be an uproar from a very big to an incredibly big group of fans. DC: It's just not worth it. Create new characters, bring them into the continuity, make them good -- and find one that sticks. Then reveal that, that character was gay... but intend to do it all along. Don't change the existing characters for the shock value and the political correctness of it...

(p.s. any chance that the "iconic" hint by Didio signals that it's Icon?... just a thought)

Although -- I have to say that Billy Batson would work the best of the characters up there. Those characters -- in some way or another have all had strong love interests:

Burce with Selina and Talia
Clark and Lois
Dick with Barbara and Starfire
Hal and Star Sapphire
Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown
Barry Allen and Iris West
Wally and every girl he sees....
etc...

*Changing these characters' sexual orientation would nullify these past stories and change a large part of who they are. These relationships and dynamics are driving points for these characters and part of why we love them...


Batson has been a kid for his whole published history and still could be struggling with his sexual identity, making it more plausible and less a slap in the face to his history if he did, in fact, mature into a gay teenager struggling with his sexual identity... It's a possibility that could work...


-R
 
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I would hardly call Icon an iconic character. Though the lame pun may be a hint.

Really, the whole thing sounds ridiculous.
 
It's not gonna be Icon. No one knows who that is. I would barely call Shazam iconic but that could be a possibility.
 
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