Gay DC Superhero

[Thundercrack85]

It's not gonna be Icon. No one knows who that is. I would barely call Shazam iconic but that could be a possibility.

Maybe in a retirement home.

 

[Mako]

My money is on Raven.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Im going with Alan Scott. Its the easiest to do. Whole new continuity, new Earth 2. He dont have any kids now.

 

[sandwraith]

I find this difficult to believe. I'm not anti or pro LGBT stuff. As far as I am concerned as long as who you are doesn't get in the way of how I live, I can accept a person as a friend regardless of his/her race/religion/sexual orientation.

And really...I dunno. Is this really what the LGBT community wants? I know there are comic book fans who are gay/lesbian but as comic fans do you think they can accept such an unorthodox...retcon of an established character's...character?

Did anyone ask Mysti who she thinks it is?

 

[Roose Bolton]

Yeah she seemed to welcome it with open arms,(she does with anything remotely related to the subject) whereas a couple of other LGBT posters didn't agree with her and felt that the thing was fairly stupid.

 

[sandwraith]

Yeah she seemed to welcome it with open arms,(she does with anything remotely related to the subject) whereas a couple of other LGBT posters didn't agree with her and felt that the thing was fairly stupid.

Hrmm...Kind of saw that coming.

Not going to guess who it is. This isn't an anti-LGBT thing. It's just one of those character revamps I am vehemently against.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Whatever happens DC is screwing over most of their fans. For instance I've pretty much been reading Wally West my entire life and I feel that the character has grown with me,if DC come in and say that he's gay then that basically changes a huge amount of my personal relatibility with the character. It also pretty much means that his relationship with Linda was meaningless. It'd be like a worse version of OMD

 

[Mystirious]

Having had time to think about it I've decided its pretty dumb to make a straight character gay

They should make them bi instead. That would actually be believable

No one wakes up one day and suddenly their gay. But plenty of people discover that their bisexual

And there's a lack of bisexual heroes in the DCU. And of those one is dead and the other has just vanished

This and the upcoming Northstar wedding are nothing but pathetic attempts by Marvel and DC to pander to other groups and get pointless mainstream media coverage that no one is going to pay attention to. It's them trying to say how up to date and relevant to the times they are when the reality is that they are years behind on how to view the LGBT community. Being gay is not an event. It isn't some sideshow for us to look at through a glass barrier as if we're in a zoo. It's a natural and beautiful thing that has been around forever, not some foreign concept that has just been introduced to us. This form of condescension is one of the most insulting things a person can do to one another.

I disagree about the Northstar wedding Hippie hunter I think its great that Marvel are featuring same sex marriage in their comic books and I'm definitely going to be buying the comic book where it happens

But I also confess that I'm not overly concerned with seeing more characters of a specific group. If they are there, that's cool, if they're not it doesn't particularly bother me.

It does bother me

As a lesbian comic book fan I want to read about lgbt characters incomic books. They're the kind of characters I want to read, that i enjoy reading about and that I actually care about

If there were no lgbt characters in comic books I wouldn't bother buying comic books. If there were nothing but straight characters in comics I'd have no interest in wasting my money on them

Almost every single comic book I buy right now features lgbt characters. They're the characters I'm actually interested in and I want more lgbt characters in the DCU. LOTS more and I want them featured in as many comic books as possible

It's not acceptable not to include lgbt characters in comic books and I want DC to continue introducing many more lesbian gay and bisexual characters

I also want them to finally introduce some transgender characters in the DCU

 

[chamber-music]

I await Fox News inevitable angry rants

 

[TheWatcher]

Giving the Gay/Lesbian communities a small character is insulting, but saying that they NEED a major character to be gay is also insulting.

Plus we all know how the Colossus thing worked out.

 

[Shazam]

I really don't like this.

I understand why they are trying it, they are giving the LGTB community a hero to look up to, I get it -- and they deserve one. But whoever they pick, be it Dick Grayson, Wally West, Bruce Wayne, Arthur Curry, Connor Kent, anyone it is a bad move.

The LGTB community, so far as DC sees it, is alienated and doesn't have a character to identify with...

But if they change the sexual orientation of one of these characters, then the straight fans who grew up loving and rooting for these characters are then alienated. And before someone says: "Well, just because the character is gay, you can't identify with him anymore? You're a bigot!" ... Think about it. The fact that DC is changing a character's sexual orientation so that gays can identify with that character proves that it is in fact true -- and it works both ways (a gay can find a connection and identify with a gay character and a straight reader can identify and connect with a straight character). If a character I already know and love is made gay, I will have a harder time identifying with him... it doesn't make me a bigot -- it makes me heterosexual. Just as it's harder for me as a white male to identify with the cultural differences, and/or problems specific to a black male or a woman... Again, not a bigot... Just different.

They should create a character that happens to be gay. They shouldn't change an established character -- no matter how prominent the character is. Because believe me, no matter how small a character -- he has die hard fans that this will crush. And I'd imagine that the LGTB community wouldn't want their character like that -- not at the expense of someone else's favorite character.

And now that Didio is saying "he" will be an "iconic character." In the DC Universe, hero wise, that leaves:

1.) Superman (Clark Kent)
2.) Batman (Bruce Wayne)
3.) Green Lantern (Alan Scott)
4.) Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
5.) Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)
6.) Green Lantern (Guy Gardner)
7.) Green Lantern (John Stewart)
8.) Aquaman (Arthur Curry)
9.) Flash (Jay Garrick)
10.) Flash (Barry Allen)
11.) Flash (Wally West)
12.) Flash (Bart Allen)
13.) Nightwing (Dick Grayson)
14.) Red Robin (Tim Drake)
15.) Robin (Damian Wayne)
16.) Martian Manhunter (J'onn J'onz)
17.) Cyborg (Vic Stone)
18.) Hawk Man (Carter Hall)
19.) Superboy (Connor Kent)
20.) Green Arrow (Oliver Queen)
21.) Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)

If anyone of those characters are changed -- there is going to be an uproar from a very big to an incredibly big group of fans. DC: It's just not worth it. Create new characters, bring them into the continuity, make them good -- and find one that sticks. Then reveal that, that character was gay... but intend to do it all along. Don't change the existing characters for the shock value and the political correctness of it...

(p.s. any chance that the "iconic" hint by Didio signals that it's Icon?... just a thought)

Although -- I have to say that Billy Batson would work the best of the characters up there. Those characters -- in some way or another have all had strong love interests:

Burce with Selina and Talia
Clark and Lois
Dick with Barbara and Starfire
Hal and Star Sapphire
Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown
Barry Allen and Iris West
Wally and every girl he sees....
etc...

*Changing these characters' sexual orientation would nullify these past stories and change a large part of who they are. These relationships and dynamics are driving points for these characters and part of why we love them...


Batson has been a kid for his whole published history and still could be struggling with his sexual identity, making it more plausible and less a slap in the face to his history if he did, in fact, mature into a gay teenager struggling with his sexual identity... It's a possibility that could work...


-R

DC is desperate for the attention that Marvel has gotten......

 

[Micromind]

If I have to make a guess -

I think it is Plastic Man.

But, DC is resorting to cheap gimmicks now. Why ?

DC is desperate for the attention that Marvel has gotten......

What ? the Marvel's Avengers VS X Men event ? That is also a gimmick.

 

[Czar Colossus]

Most (if not all) major comic events seem to be so. Now being gay is a major event?
This is so much bull****! The New 52 has yielded more bad than good so far and the new SHAZAM story is awful (except for the art). If they do this to Captain Marvel it will be a total **** you to long time fans.
Totally stupid idiotic decision and an insult to the sensibilities of any fan straight, gay, or otherwise. Pandering of the worst kind.

Other than that I have no strong feelings on the issue.

 

[Charlie No-One]

Straight readers have hundreds of characters to have personal connections to. Creating a new gay character would have almost no impact. An established character coming out is great.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

It's going to be on Earth 2 probably.

So I'm going to say it's one of the JSA Trinity.

That way, even it's the "Flash is Gay!" it's kinda a cop out since it's Jay Garrick.

 

[Charlie No-One]

I think it will definitely be the main universe. They are trying to get huge publicity out of this.

 

[Phatman]

Archie Comics SERVED DC. And now they feel embarrassed.

DC saw Archie's gay wedding with Kevin Keller sell out and are now jumping on the bandwagon like Marvel is with Norhtstar's gay wedding. It's just a gimmick to get free press and spur interest, not a serious effort to reach gay and lesbian readers.

Revealing an established character as homosexual is just a cop-out. It shows how little DC editorial really cares about readers or reaching them. instead of giving gay customers a quality comic product, they'll probably trot out some second-tier character and then not use them for years on end like Northstar or Obsidian.

Remember Obsidian Didio? He was gay way back in the late 80's. But no one pushed him to the forefront when he was in a fourth-tier title like Infinity Inc.


And Maggie Sawyer? A lesbian featured prominently in Superman? She was shown with her girlfriend in numerous episodes of STAS.

And Wally West had a gay friend. So did Kyle Rayner.

Seriously, If DC wanted to introduce a new gay character, they would have developed a brand-new character from the ground up. A character rooted and steeped in gay history and gay culture. An openly gay character who would have educated new readers about things like Stonewall 1969 and other parts of gay history in between the pages of their adventures.

But creating a new character is HARD. Building an audience of new readers for said character is HARD. And a new title with a new character wouldn't get the press or the controversy.

Or maybe it would. Archie sold out all those copies of Kevin Keller's wedding. And he was a brand new character.

The more DC talks about change the more they stay the same.

 

[Hurm...]

Definitely Aquaman...

 

[Mystirious]

Archie Comics SERVED DC. And now they feel embarrassed.

DC saw Archie's gay wedding with Kevin Keller sell out and are now jumping on the bandwagon like Marvel is with Norhtstar's gay wedding. It's just a gimmick to get free press and spur interest, not a serious effort to reach gay and lesbian readers.

Revealing an established character as homosexual is just a cop-out. It shows how little DC editorial really cares about readers or reaching them. instead of giving gay customers a quality comic product, they'll probably trot out some second-tier character and then not use them for years on end like Northstar or Obsidian.

Remember Obsidian Didio? He was gay way back in the late 80's. But no one pushed him to the forefront when he was in a fourth-tier title like Infinity Inc.


And Maggie Sawyer? A lesbian featured prominently in Superman? She was shown with her girlfriend in numerous episodes of STAS.

And Wally West had a gay friend. So did Kyle Rayner.

Seriously, If DC wanted to introduce a new gay character, they would have developed a brand-new character from the ground up. A character rooted and steeped in gay history and gay culture. An openly gay character who would have educated new readers about things like Stonewall 1969 and other parts of gay history in between the pages of their adventures.

But creating a new character is HARD. Building an audience of new readers for said character is HARD. And a new title with a new character wouldn't get the press or the controversy.

Or maybe it would. Archie sold out all those copies of Kevin Keller's wedding. And he was a brand new character.

The more DC talks about change the more they stay the same.

Batwoman is a good example of a new gay character DC created that turned out really well

She's an amazing lesbian character and her ongoing has been the best new series from DC. It also stars Maggie Sawyer and Sune who are both also pretty fab gay characters too

So things are improving at DC. Even if they do treat introducing lgbt characters like a publicity stunt sometimes things are getting better when it comes to how they write lgbt characters and how many of them they feature in their comic books

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Green Arrow, Green Lantern(Hal), or Booster Gold

 

[Speedball]

I'm going to say Barry Allen. He's no longer involved with Iris West, at least not romantically.
Green Arrow or Cyborg are my other two possibilities.

Having Hal turn gay is REALLY out of character for him. The Green Lantern history, like Batman, was largely untouched by the reboot, so I wouldn't say it's him.

And having Martian Manhunter turn gay is just really weird for me. I don't imagine him to find anyone attractive, male or female.

And it certainly isn't Aquaman. Have you seen Mera? I'm gay and even I would hit that.

 

[Charlie No-One]

Obviously they were feeling pressure from Marvel to with Northstar's gay wedding.

 

[The Morningstar]

I don't have a problem with a character "coming out". That could make for a compelling story.

But isn't DC basically retconning it so a straight character is gay? That i have a problem with. It's just pandering, treating it like a gimmick.

 

[JTStarkiller]

According to Snyder, it's not someone we've seen in the relaunch already...

https://***********/#!/Ssnyder1835/status/204929227454300161

 

[Speedball]

It's Wally West. Totally Wally West. OR Elongated Man, which would actually make me sad.