Solo General News/Discussion Thread-Solo: A Star Wars Story. - Part 1

[Schlosser85]

Actually I do think Glover looks more like Lando than Ehrenreich looks like Han, and I don’t have any more general opinion of Glover than I do of Ehrenreich.

The visuals look good and Emilia Clarke looks good.

 

[#root]

Looks good . I don't think it's fair to judge Ehrenreich's performance just from the trailer, although I personally thought he was ok. Maybe I'm just not that attached to Harrison's Han . I'm assuming the masked character is the villain? He looks cool.

 

[antsman41]

Most surprising aspect of this that’s good is the Mother Of Dragons, I rarely like her in GOT and she was atrocious in that well, atrocious Terminator film... but, damn does she look interesting and feel welcoming to Star Wars.

 

[Greens]

I don't really get how people can say Alden was TERRIBLE in the trailer. Massive overstatement.

 

[Frodo]

Ehrenreich actually resembles a young Jack Nicholson to me.

Judging by the fanboy reaction, it looks as if we're gonna have another polarizing SW come May.

Then again, given the negative press the film has gotten, I'd call a polarized reaction to the first trailer a win for Lucasfilm.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ehrenreich actually resembles a young Jack Nicholson to me.

Judging by the fanboy reaction, it looks as if we're gonna have another polarizing SW come May.

Then again, given the negative press the film has gotten, I'd call a polarized reaction to the first trailer a win for Lucasfilm.

He does.

 

[Adhesive Boy]

That's a strange delineation to make. Film is a visual medium. Having great cinematography may not make a bad script good or turn a poor performance into a great one, but it's by no means a small thing if the movie is poorly realized visually. It's one of the most important fundamentals of filmmaking, if not the most. It is, after all, what you do with a movie. You watch it.

Not at all, it's a common one. Cinematography, make up, and effects awards rank among the minor ones, while the major ones are for acting, director, screenplay and best picture. It's not strange why either.

It's your definition that's strange since you're saying that visuals mean as much as everything else combined.

 

[Snow Queen]

I'm glad to see giant tentacle monster is still getting work after not being in The Last Jedi.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm glad to see giant tentacle monster is still getting work after not being in The Last Jedi.

It is classy to see Lucasfilms continue to give them work.

 

[Doctor Jones]

This just looks terrible. It looks drab and surprisingly like Rogue One when it'll probably try to have a more traditional Star Wars feel like Rogue One ended up being, Alden looks shockingly weak as Han and looks and sounds like he's trying to do a Ford impression (you shouldn't even bother). More of the same looking planets. It all just looks so standard. It just feels exactly what you'd expect for such a terrible idea. Han isn't a lead character but they're trying to make him a lead character with the whole, "You don't know it yet but you're actually a hero" thing. If you have to make this work, this Han should just be a separate character from Ford's Han. That Lord and Miller movie is looking more preferable, even if that might have been terrible too. They're just watering down this property and making it like anything else. What the hell happened to Kennedy's western look and feel to it? You had that shot of him reaching for his blaster but it may or may not be some residue of that idea who knows?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The Han Solo movie would be like traditional Star Wars? Why I never...

Also traditional Star Wars is a western. So if it looks like traditional Star Wars, it looks like a western.

 

[Greens]

If you have to make this work, this Han should just be a separate character from Ford's Han.

Huh? That would be stupid.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Huh? That would be stupid.

We should make Ford's Han Legends.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Huh? That would be stupid.

Listen, the whole idea of this movie is stupid, so it's gonna be difficult to not be dictated by that, but you can at least find ways to make it bearable and make smarter decisions. Ford is iconic as Han Solo and is Han Solo where no one else can replace him. And I doubt that's gonna change after this film comes out. So why even replicate the Ford Han when it's not Ford Han? I mean you have some of the same traits as Han, but play it differently. Do your own thing like Pine did with Kirk apart from time to time you see a wink of the original actor in there when appropriate.

Alden looks like he's trying to replicate Ford's Han and is failing at it. I wouldn't have this problem if I saw something here. Of all things, I thought Alden as Han was the one thing I thought could work if done right and smart (and I always thought the acting coach backlash was exaggerated, he's a great actor) but they look like they can't even do that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

How is he replicating Ford? The trailer is short, but he doesn't seem to be doing a Ford impression. For better or worse, he seems to be his own thing.

 

[Greens]

So you think it would be better if they did a Han Solo movie where there is no connection to the character we all know and love? What would even be the point? You could argue that nobody's waiting to see a Solo movie, but I think a negative amount of people is waiting to see a Solo movie with no connection to the existing character.

 

[Lord]

That Lord and Miller movie is looking more preferable, even if that might have been terrible too.

They have never done a bad film and have turned two terrible ideas into great films (Lego movie and 21 jump street). Why do some act like they would have done a bad film? They were kicked out because they wanted more control than Lucasfilm was giving them. Sounds like a repeat of the Ant-Man situation with Edgar Wright.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They have never done a bad film and have turned two terrible ideas into great films (Lego movie and 21 jump street). Why do some act like they would have done a bad film? They were kicked out because they wanted more control than Lucasfilm was giving them. Sounds like a repeat of the Ant-Man situation with Edgar Wright.

That's not what happened. At least not in the majority of stories out there.

 

[Sithborg]

Really, because one of lines people are hating on screams as something that would've be used in Lord and Miller's movie. And many, many more times.

 

[Doctor Jones]

So you think it would be better if they did a Han Solo movie where there is no connection to the character we all know and love? What would even be the point? You could argue that nobody's waiting to see a Solo movie, but I think a negative amount of people is waiting to see a Solo movie with no connection to the existing character.

Not no connection. It is possible to make a character in which it would be its own thing from Ford's Han but it could still be Han and still be reckless, abrasive, a smart ass, daring, but he doesn't need to exactly be Han. He isn't full formed right? Since this takes place years before the OT, it's conceivable you have more wiggle room to do some interesting stuff and not be held down by preconceptions of him. Look, you already run into fundamental problems with the inherent flawed notion by making a supporting character a main character (it's like Jack Sparrow in OST), so if you're into that, why not go out there a bit more?

And that's part of the problem. Lucasfilm needs to deliver on what we know about SW. It can't break out of its box.

If anything, Han should be the shoots first bastard throughout this whole movie. He truly doesn't change and show "there's more to him than money" until ANH when he saves Luke (already a fine young Han Solo story but what the **** do I know?). Until that point before we meet him in the Cantina, we get a glimpse of who he is before all of this, and that's selfish to the bone. Add him being younger to the equation, and he's even more of these things, with the inexperience. It could almost be a Sean Connery Bond film where he doesn't change, it's just a one off adventure where he does his thing and that's it. Or if you want to add some humanity to it, take cues from Craig's Casino Royale. But the whole point to Han was he's the pirate/thief/scoundrel archetype. Make a pirate movie crossed with James Bond or something.

But all of this is too interesting for a [Han] Solo A Star Wars Story made by Disney. And these ideas aren't even that out there for this movie. But it's something a place to start at least. It's gonna be a stupid origin story with a stupid arc. It's gonna be a standard by the numbers movie that checks off all the boxes and hits the sweet spots for the fans and yet somehow that makes a good movie. It's gonna somehow get away with being a good movie by virtue that there's things that people recognize like the dribble that was Rogue One.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Meh. This is not a movie I thought we really needed, thus I have not been interested. The trailer doesn't really do anything to make me change my mind, either. It looks fine, but the key issue this movie has is I just wish I was watching Harrison Ford and ANH Han. It's a hurdle I don't think the movie will overcome for me.

 

[Iceman]

Actually I do think Glover looks more like Lando than Ehrenreich looks like Han, and I don’t have any more general opinion of Glover than I do of Ehrenreich.

The visuals look good and Emilia Clarke looks good.

He looks as good as I could have imagined from a young Lando. I don't think Han's looks will matter that much to everyone if the actor can capture some of HF's charisma in the role. Yes, the visuals were nice and sharp.

 

[Greens]

Not no connection. It is possible to make a character in which it would be its own thing from Ford's Han but it could still be Han and still be reckless, abrasive, a smart ass, daring, but he doesn't need to exactly be Han. He isn't full formed right? And that would be better, yes. Since this takes place years before the OT, it's conceivable you have more wiggle room to do some interesting stuff and not be held down by preconceptions of him. Look, you already run into fundamental problems with the inherent flawed notion by making a supporting character a main character so if you're in that (it's like Jack Sparrow in OST), why not go out there a bit more?

And that's part of the problem. Lucasfilm needs to deliver on what we know about SW. It can't break out of its box.

If anything, Han should be the shoots first bastard throughout this whole movie. He truly doesn't change and show "there's more to him than money" until ANH when he saves Luke (already a fine young Han Solo story but what the **** do I know?). Until that point before we meet him in the Cantina, we get a glimpse of who he is before all of this, and that's selfish to the bone. Add him being younger to the equation, and he's even more of these things, with the inexperience. It could almost be a Sean Connery Bond film where he doesn't change, it's just a one off adventure where he does his thing and that's it. Or if you want to add some humanity to it, take cues from Craig's Casino Royale. But the whole point to Han was he's the pirate/thief/scoundrel archetype. Make a pirate movie crossed with James Bond or something.

But all of this is too interesting for a [Han] Solo A Star Wars Story made by Disney. And these ideas aren't even that out there for this movie. But it's something a place to start at least. It's gonna be a stupid origin story with a stupid arc.

Look, I don't disagree that making this movie was a lame move. It's probably going to be an extremely vanilla, by the books story. Star Wars fans will find some comfort in seeing Star Destroyers again and witnessing events that were throwaway lines in the original trilogy, but that's about it. Of course I hope the movie proves me wrong.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Enjoyed the extended trailer also, I didn’t think Alden was bad at all, I actually liked his line delivery, but the voice didn’t sound like Han. Maybe over the course of the movie he develops more into the Han we know and love. As it is though, definitely seeing this.

 

[flickchick85]

Looks fine and perfectly enjoyable, but absolutely nothing about that guy says “Han Solo” to me. Thought this was a pointless and unnecessary venture from the start and they have yet to do anything to change my mind.