Ghost Rider 2 In The Works - Part 2

[BigThor]

Accuracy to the comics doesn't matter that much to me, unless they outright destroy a character ie Deadpool in Wolverine. As long as the film is good, I'm happy.

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I only feel this way concerning villains and secondary characters though, because I want the main character to be as faithful to the comics as possible.

 

[batpirisss]

Take some actual adult occult scarey cinema like the omen, exorcist, with a little Lynch and Polanski thrown in. Add a great action movie and sprinkle some classic universal monsters on top and thats what Ghost Rider should be. Take the film serious and make a serious movie.

However I highly disagree that the new trailer looks worst than the first, CGI or not this trailer looks much better than the first at least it has some balls the first looked candy coated. Will that mean we get a good flick. I wouldn't count on it.

Can we get some Son of Satan also. I would die to see that on a billboard. They would have did it in the 70's

 

[RED_Rider]

What's the point of changing Blackout's originals and powers!? They better have some seriously dark and sinister plot points or else!

 

[Nathan]

Usually I want Movies to be as faithful to the comics as possible, but when the villain is some kind of Vampire than can extinguish light sources and his enemy is the freaking Ghost Rider, I say change the hell out of him. I want a badass final battle, and not that sad stuff from the previous movie, where he pretty much one hit killed everyone.

 

[Poeman]

This looks terrible...Just CGI with probably the worst kind of acting

 

[RED_Rider]

They could have kept the relatively powerless vampire elements of Blackout and still make him fun and threatening.The scene from scan pages is the proof of this.

This looks terrible...Just CGI with probably the worst kind of acting

I take it that you don't like awesome flaming skulls or crazy fire pissing.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

Take some actual adult occult scarey cinema like the omen, exorcist, with a little Lynch & Polanski thrown in. Add a great action movie & sprinkle some classic universal monsters on top & thats what Ghost Rider should be. Take the film serious & make a serious movie.

However I highly disagree that the new trailer looks worst than the first, CGI or not this trailer looks much better than the first at least it has some balls the first looked candy coated. Will that mean we get a good flick. I wouldn't count on it.

Can we get some Son of Satan also. I would die to see that on a billboard. They would have did it in the 70's

I agree with paragraphs 1 & 3, but as far as this looking better than the first, were you comparing trailers? Because If you watch the teaser trailer for the first film, it looked amazing. "Story goes that he'll be normal during the day. But at night, in the presence of evil, The Rider takes over..." It was 10 times better than this trailer.

 

[Hurm...]

I hated the first Ghost Rider, but the teaser trailer for the film was good.

 

[Liam_H]

I agree with paragraphs 1 & 3, but as far as this looking better than the first, were you comparing trailers? Because If you watch the teaser trailer for the first film, it looked amazing. "Story goes that he'll be normal during the day. But at night, in the presence of evil, The Rider takes over..." It was 10 times better than this trailer.

The thing about the trailer for the first movie was that it was trying to be a serious film. With this movie there going a different route and not trying to make him all dark and brooding with a tortured soul. They're just trying to make it fun/silly movie with him using his powers to try and do cool things.

 

[BigThor]

So ummm can someone tell me if the scene where Ghost Rider uses his hands to slice through a car was in the script for this film or not.

 

[wampa1]

thats what Ghost Rider should be. Take the film serious and make a serious movie.

A serious Ghost Rider movie would be awful and would only appeal to those who think long leather jackets and shades look good in real life.

A Ghost Rider movie needs to be absolutely over-the-top ridiculous. Even this new one looks tame to how I envision a Ghost Rider movie to be.

 

[wampa1]

The thing about the trailer for the first movie was that it was trying to be a serious film. With this movie there going a different route and not trying to make him all dark and brooding with a tortured soul. They're just trying to make it fun/silly movie with him using his powers to try and do cool things.

Which is how it should be.

 

[WarBlade]

Usually I want Movies to be as faithful to the comics as possible, but when the villain is some kind of Vampire than can extinguish light sources and his enemy is the freaking Ghost Rider, I say change the hell out of him. I want a badass final battle, and not that sad stuff from the previous movie, where he pretty much one hit killed everyone.

Blackout wasn't a vampire. He was a mutant, if anything. He was a half-breed, bastard part-human descendant of a demon queen. And if you want a "badass final battle" then you should be hoping for Blackout to be rendered exactly as he was in the comic.

A serious Ghost Rider movie would be awful and would only appeal to those who think long leather jackets and shades look good in real life.

A Ghost Rider movie needs to be absolutely over-the-top ridiculous. Even this new one looks tame to how I envision a Ghost Rider movie to be.

That's like saying Aliens would have been cool if the xenomorphs had been teletubbies.

The Ghost Rider titles had a dark, twisted sensibility about them. The times where they got "over-the-top ridiculous" were when lifeless people were strung up to make wall coverings or when a psychopathic torturer started stabbing himself just to demonstrate to his victim what he was going to do next.

I can't be any more clear on how dark these films should be. Any director who starts introducing the guzzling of jelly beans from a martini glass, or fire-pissing, has completely missed the point of Ghost Rider.

 

[RED_Rider]

A serious Ghost Rider movie would be awful and would only appeal to those who think long leather jackets and shades look good in real life.

A Ghost Rider movie needs to be absolutely over-the-top ridiculous. Even this new one looks tame to how I envision a Ghost Rider movie to be.

I respectfully disagree. While a super over the top GR would be great, a dark and serious one can also be good if done right. While this might be a rather unfair comparison, I think Blade is very similar to GR in terms of adaptaion problems BUT the first Blade film was dark and all serious, yet it was also very well made action film and entertaining one at that.

A serious GR film could go into gothic horror territory or something like Spawn's awesomely dark animated series.

 

[Nathan]

I think a Ghost Rider with a serious tone and over-the-top action could be great. The first, what, 10-15 minutes of the first Movie were great IMO. When was young, made the deal with the devil, that had a very good tone. Then years passed, Cage took over and the whole movies tone took a dive.

 

[wampa1]

That's like saying Aliens would have been cool if the xenomorphs had been teletubbies.

It totally would have been and you know it.

 

[Nathan]

I don't know about cool, but definitely a thousand times more terrifying.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

This seems like a huge improvement. For one thing it seems more like a horror flick for a change. And the new burned black gazoline look is terrifik! What I realised is that the one thing that works the most is that there are far less other CGI characters in this and I think GR works better in a more realistic World when he's the only one that is a demon. In the best GR stories of the 90s in the comics he was used as a Punisher-like vigilante fighting normal villains not Mephisto.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

If I was the studio, I woulda gone after the horror fans instead. Look at all the money the Paranormal Activities have made with virtually invisible budgets. Or look at the success of True Blood which lives in a thin line between horror and black humor. The last film failed not only because it was a bad movie but because it really didn't know what it wanted to be. Action, horror, comedy, CBM...Ghost Rider is a demon. His arch-nemesis is Satan. His heavies are vampires & warlocks. This needs to round the horror genre or yet again it will fail in the eyes of anyone who hasn't read the comic or that doesn't like Cage's action films. I'll hold out for the actual film, but if it ends up being another cheesefest, Sony will have yet again failed at capturing the essence of the character. I got into this comic because of how dark it was. The Dan Ketch saga was just deliciously grim and morbid. For an early 90s Marvel comic, it was really as sinister of a book as you could find. Hopefully N/T read that series.

The new movie seems pretty dark to me, much more horror than the super-hero fest of the last one where you had silly "elemental demons".

 

[WarBlade]

In the best GR stories of the 90s in the comics he was used as a Punisher-like vigilante fighting normal villains not Mephisto.

Normal???

 

[Stripesy Strip]

I'm really looking forward to how this movie flows. I've seen Crank: High Voltage and I actually enjoyed it, partly because of the pacing and partly because Jason Statham is the boss. If this movie has that stylized, go-go-go action with over-the-top stuff (like the fire pissing) then I think it could succeed on that level.

Statham should BE Ghost Rider!

 

[Stripesy Strip]

Normal???

He was fighting normal criminals and super-villains but not get bogged down by Doctor Strange villains is what I meant, like silly demons and ghosts and whatever magical crap. There was blood at the end of his beatdowns. t:

 

[CaptainClown]

Statham should BE Ghost Rider!

that would indeed be awesome

 

[terry78]

This one looks to be more on the horror side with him going after humans. It's more or less the supernatural monster taking out the random victims, except the good/evil roles are reversed.

 

[RED_Rider]

The Rider's form should be like an unleashed hell dog, something that people in movie are afraid of and don't want to see come out. That's why fights against people in the trailer looks so awesome and hopefully will be better in the full film.