Ghost Rider (Vol 2) Discussion / Dan Ketch

[Joker]

I started on the Ketch version, but the crappy soap opera elements drove me crazy...the whole long lost brothers thing was incredibly ******ed

 

[NDX]

I started on the Ketch version, but the crappy soap opera elements drove me crazy...the whole long lost brothers thing was incredibly ******ed

I'll give you that. When I read that, I groaned. And then Seige of Darkness.

Surprise I lasted to ish 76 before I blew it off altogether. Mackie really made up some decent stories after that debacle.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

I ate the Siege of Darkness up like candy, and the Midnight Massacre before it. I enjoyed every minute of it. I enjoyed the Spirits of Vengeance comic, the Midnight Sons quarterly, pretty much everything they could dish out on Ghost Rider.

Velez Jr's run was not that bad, it was different from Mackie's, but he did put some personality into Dan Ketch, Badalino, Hellgate, Snowblind, and Blackheart which I enjoyed. I think the entire Noble Kale arc is what really turned me off from it. From that point on, it almost seemed that Marvel just wanted the series to die, and needless to say, it did.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I dropped the book after Valez introduced that Noble Kale nonsense. Mackie wrote a story in Spider-Man debunking it, which made his feelings on the issue crystal clear.
But the Ketch series, again, was entertaining at first but got lost along the way.

 

[Dan Ketch]

Dan Ketch was better in my eyes cause that's how I met GR.

 

[Netmaster]

Blaze all the way. I like both, but I do think Blaze was a far more interesting character.

 

[Netmaster]

Yep.

 

[Krypton_Son]

Blaze was by far the best, the stories were more entertaining. The Ketch GR was good, but to me the best part about that series was Blaze.

 

[Ixnay Unbound]

As much as I love the first 25 issues of the Ketch run, I agree with BigGun: NOTHING beats the final 14 issues of volume 1. Roger Stern, JM DeMatteis, Bob Budiansky, and Don Perlin were firing on all cylinders - and to me, that run was probably my all-time favorite comic run.

And though I love Saltares/Texeira, Bob Budiansky still wins the prize for drawing the definitive Ghost Rider to me.

 

[Reaper]

Ketch's GR was NEVER the best. The Blaze version has always been vastly superior.

I second that

 

[Chris Wallace]

I Third It.

 

[Bishop2]

Fourth'd.

 

[theescapeclause]

Hey dudes, I found this on a torrent site today. Someone uploaded a torrent of scans of the entire original run of the Blaze GR, plus some champions stuff. It's about 900 megs, but worth the dl I think. For those of us that can't find or afford the whole run, its a cool way to read the stories, and check out the original Ghost Rider. you have to be a member of the site, but it's free.

http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/380181/979615/

p.s. sorry if posting this is in violation of any board rules. it's cool if the mods have to delete it.

 

[BIGGUN]

great find escape!
heh...i dig that Champions issue w/ the Sentinels. makes it look like GR is running away! should have this caption Black Widow:"Ghost Rider! Where are you going?!!! Dont leave us!!!"
GR:"LOL SUCKERS!!! Youve been GhostOWNED!" t:

 

[writer6886]

Hey Look I need help. Ghost Ride eventually Defeated Blackout. But It doesn't say what issue. It's not in the 1990 series because the last issue in that series where blackout was seen was in #54 where he killed a reporter on live tv. Can anyone please tell what comic was Blackout killed?
Thank you.
Writer6886.

 

[BIGGUN]

Hey Look I need help. Ghost Ride eventually Defeated Blackout. But It doesn't say what issue. It's not in the 1990 series because the last issue in that series where blackout was seen was in #54 where he killed a reporter on live tv. Can anyone please tell what comic was Blackout killed?
Thank you.
Writer6886.

not sure but i think you might be talking about issue 66
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=enlarge&issue=35314339256 66

dont think they had GR actually kill Blackout...more like he left BO to his fate.
im not 100% on this...been awhile since i read it last

 

[writer6886]

not sure but i think you might be talking about issue 66
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=enlarge&issue=35314339256%2066

dont think they had GR actually kill Blackout...more like he left BO to his fate.
im not 100% on this...been awhile since i read it last

I can't believe I missed that one. Thank you BIGGUN. I can't wait to see Blackout get his.

 

[Redvelvetdragon]

My husband seems to like Ketch better as well. I guess it's just a matter of opinion. I'm new to GR so I've not read much yet. I did buy one of the essiential GR books which started from the very first comic with JB. Though I know that most of you are sentimental about it, I have to confess those early stories kind of bored me as it seems that everyone bumping into JB had some deal with the devil. I was half expecting the newspaper delivery boy and the grocery store clerk would be revealed as the next demonic person. I do plan on continuing reading, but I hope that the stories get a little better and more believeable.

Husband has the Dan Ketch stories, so I'll read those as well, but gosh I enjoyed the new release, though I wasn't wild about the last issue.

 

[FlameHead]

You're in the minority on these boards

Minority indeed and I know what it feels like. I'm one of the only other Ketch fans on here. Probably the most vocal about it, as I'm sure you've all noticed.

 

[HAMACKIE]

Is it too late for me to say that I always liked the Blaze version better?

Howard

 

[Kevin]

Ketch for me

 

[LivingTribunal]

So far nothing has beaten the final issues of the original GR #68-83. Ketch was good and had better villains but the story and characters were not nearly as well written as the final Blaze issues. but then again there was more empahsis on story and characters than art back in those days

GR lasted 81 issues
Agreed was very good

 

[LivingTribunal]

I mean, Road to Damnation was pretty good, and This current ongoing by Daniel Way is even better, but they would have to do something really special for it to top Ketch GR...

Nothing surpasses Blaze/Zarathos GR. Struggle was awesome. GR #35 when he defeats Death in a race. #47 such a classic.

 

[Gathrn]

Gotta say that IMO the Dan Ketch Ghost Rider was the best. I liked the early Johnny Blaze stories, but I liked the early 90s GR.

 

[Chains]

I grew up on Ketch GR and like him the best. Every Blaze issue I've seen has bored me in comparison, but I don't think I've seen the issues the Blaze fans hype up the most so I'd like to get my hands on those. I'll be interested to see any difference of opinion the Ketch fans have about the movie relative to the Blaze fans. It's '07 not much longer.