greatest marvel hero of all time

[Dismay]

phew . . . tough one.

I would go with Spider Man.

 

[SLVRSR4]

Daredevil he doesn't have the major powers but has great heart and skills

 

[Red]

Spider-Man. Marvel do superheroes with super problems and both his alter-egos have been through the ringer more so than anyone I can think of.

Close second: Captain America.

 

[Harlekin]

This is a character that had every justification to be a villain, but he nonetheless persevered, fought against his circumstances and became a hero.

- Abused as a kid by his father.
- Ran away from home and met Ben Grimm. He was often neglected by his idol.
- Returned home and the abuse continued.
- Applied for the Avengers. Was rejected by Captain America, another one of his idols.
- Accidentally killed his father.
- Went to prison.

There were millions of situations where he could've become a villain. Not only is he a mutant, he's also half jewish, he's familiar with persecution. Eventually, he grew into a hero, led the Warriors and even ended up an Avenger.

He's the greatest Marvel hero.

 

[The_Vision]

Vision of course

 

[The Fonz]

The greatest hero of all time depends on a person's opinion and can never be considered a fact. Thus, there's no point in arguing about it. I choose Luke Cage by the way.

 

[The Question]

Again, I'm wondering: Are we going by most heroic, or the best conceived character who is generally the hero of the stories he or she is in?

 

[Harlekin]

I assume we're going by most heroic.

 

[Czar Colossus]

Yes.

You have just disqualified Colossus.

I hope you're happy.

Don't know anything about Papa Roach, so I'm confused.

 

[Slim31]

Magneto

 

[The Geek Vault]

This is a character that had every justification to be a villain, but he nonetheless persevered, fought against his circumstances and became a hero.

- Abused as a kid by his father.
- Ran away from home and met Ben Grimm. He was often neglected by his idol.
- Returned home and the abuse continued.
- Applied for the Avengers. Was rejected by Captain America, another one of his idols.
- Accidentally killed his father.
- Went to prison.

There were millions of situations where he could've become a villain. Not only is he a mutant, he's also half jewish, he's familiar with persecution. Eventually, he grew into a hero, led the Warriors and even ended up an Avenger.

He's the greatest Marvel hero.

Who is this? I'd go with Hercules.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Adapt.
Improvise.
Overcome.

Captain America exemplifies ALL that it means to be a HERO.

 

[The Cleric]

oh god... justice? he is a loser! if anything, NOMAD is a better hero than him.

 

[samurai black]

If we're talking greatest of ALL comics, then
1.Superman
2.Batman
3.Spider-man
4.Captain America
5.Daredevil

 

[Harlekin]

oh god... justice? he is a loser! if anything, NOMAD is a better hero than him.

Don't even start, mmmkay?

Who is this? I'd go with Hercules.

That's Justice, real name Vance Astrovik. Used to go by Marvel Boy.

 

[ObakeTora]

I know Ill probably get flamed for this but to me Castle is the greatest Marvel Hero of all time.


He defended his country in an unpopular war during a time where anti-American propoganda was all the rage. Yet when he came back home the same people he was trying to defend ended up taking away the only thing he cared about, his family. Other people in his situation would start a talk show or become suicidal alcoholics,but not this man. He does what society can not; seeks out bad men and punishes them. He fights the real villains that threaten our daily existence, the human traders, the drug traffickers, the corrupt politicians, not fantastic larger then life characters with cool suits and cosmic powers. He may not be a conventional hero by your standards but then again who is? He does what he does not for fame or recognition, but simply for the mere fact he can't bear to see another innocent person share his torment. Sure, nobody in the Marvel Universe respects him, but this man is beyond all of that. He doesnt care for parades or guest appearances, his war and the total annihilation of all things evil are the only thing that matters to him. Sure he kills, but the men he kills are far beyond rehabilitation, far beyond the law that no matter how much evidence is stacked up against them they can simply throw a few dollars towards their lawyers and they will be back on the street the next day. I don't know about you, but with all the crap, bs, and evil that goes on in the world today I would sleep easier knowing that this man is somewhere out there in the world.

 

[glenthalium]

Superman being the greatest of all comics ? . . he's the worst drawn character with perhaps the exception of Marvel's Eye-Scream, and Marvel abandonded that guy. Now Hyperion of the new Supreme, that's how Superman should be.

I'm gonna have to put in my vote for Thor, but given that he went rogue and caused a lot of problems (although he had good . . . intentions?) I'm gonna have to admit to it being the Captain. He's probably the best created selfless superhero. Although he did pull off a sneaky stunt in Civil War #3. He put a device on Iron Man's armor that shut him (ron Man) down momentarily when they shook hands. Spiderman has recently undone his chance for greatest with recent events in the war. I guess the war is causing everyone to show his or her ugly side. BUT THOR'S BACK!

 

[Harlekin]

The Punisher is not a hero, but I'll get to that later, if I even get to it.

Also, glenthalium, welcome, but do you understand how stupid that sounds? Worst drawn character? Duh, get another artist. There have been dozens and dozens of artists that have worked on Superman. I'd hate to see you call this bad art:

Besides that, anyone who says that Hyperion is how Superman should be, doesn't know jack about Superman.

 

[ObakeTora]

well its cool your entitled to your own opinion. But whats a hero to you? Someone who everybody loves because she or he is on the same page with morals, or someone who simply gets the job done?

 

[Balian]

I'd say Captain America or Spider-Man.
Although I do like how Daredevil goes about his business, he's a different type of hero.

 

[roach]

The best hero of them all

 

[Harlekin]

well its cool your entitled to your own opinion. But whats a hero to you? Someone who everybody loves because she or he is on the same page with morals, or someone who simply gets the job done?

Someone who performs actions for the betterment of others, with heroic intentions. Punisher kills criminals because that's all he can do. He's a lot like Deadshot in the fact that he most likely has a subconscious deathwish. It's long gone past vengeance over the fact that his family was murdered, and it was never about making sure it wouldn't happen to anybody else. Frank's entire life is built on the killing of criminals. The only moral bone in him is the fact that he'll only kill criminals. Beyond that, he's doing it purely because he isn't dead yet.

Spider-Man sees somebody being mugged, he thinks to himself: That person needs help.
Punisher sees somebody being mugged, he thinks to himself: That criminal needs to die or get severely injured.

Heroes do their actions in the name of someone else. The greatest trait of a hero is their selflessness and their setting aside the personal for another. Very few people are willing to sacrifice themselves for another. Heroes are those very few. The Punisher simply kills criminals because it satisfies him, rather than doing it to rid the world of another criminal.

That's both how I see heroes, and how I see Frank Castle.

 

[Balian]

Someone who performs actions for the betterment of others, with heroic intentions. Punisher kills criminals because that's all he can do. He's a lot like Deadshot in the fact that he most likely has a subconscious deathwish. It's long gone past vengeance over the fact that his family was murdered, and it was never about making sure it wouldn't happen to anybody else. Frank's entire life is built on the killing of criminals. The only moral bone in him is the fact that he'll only kill criminals. Beyond that, he's doing it purely because he isn't dead yet.

Spider-Man sees somebody being mugged, he thinks to himself: That person needs help.
Punisher sees somebody being mugged, he thinks to himself: That criminal needs to die or get severely injured.

Heroes do their actions in the name of someone else. The greatest trait of a hero is their selflessness and their setting aside the personal for another. Very few people are willing to sacrifice themselves for another. Heroes are those very few. The Punisher simply kills criminals because it satisfies him, rather than doing it to rid the world of another criminal.

That's both how I see heroes, and how I see Frank Castle.

Hmm... but I can see The Punisher as a hero in the way that he does get rid of criminals, even though it's for his own satisfaction.
Whether it's for his own reasons or to help someone else, he still stops the danger. I think that's more important than his motives.

 

[Harlekin]

Does killing a criminal so that you can steal his money and weapons (and yes, Frank Castle does that) make you a hero? If a villain kills another villain so that he can go after the hero, does that make him a hero? Saying that anybody that stops danger is a hero isn't just ridiculious, it's an insult to actual heroes.

 

[glenthalium]

The Punisher is not a hero, but I'll get to that later, if I even get to it.

Also, glenthalium, welcome, but do you understand how stupid that sounds? Worst drawn character? Duh, get another artist.

Besides that, anyone who says that Hyperion is how Superman should be, doesn't know jack about Superman.

When I say worst drawn character I'm referering to the creativity and portrayal of the character, not the artwork. I have seen some very fine Superman pictures but the character is sad. I hated Kill Bill, but Bill agreed with me there, even though Superman is his favorite character.

Did you know Superman has 12 strand DNA and can't reproduce with humans? Did you know that Superman derives his powers from the yellow sun and not Earth's low gravity compared to Krypton? Did you know that when Superman was 3 years old his Kryptonian parents were concerned that he wasn't learning his calculus?

Superman moves at the speed of light and hears everything and tackles things like bank robberies where there are already police present to deal with it. He could be dealing with things no one would see like rapes, or murders in back alleys, instead of things everyone will see. Then he doesn't deal with issues in a timely manner. Yeah he killed what was supposed to be the ultimate life form (doomsday), and he died. But that doesn't make the character any more interesting or more creative.