Green Arrow series in the works at The CW

[Rockstar]

I disagree, but this pilot is gonna suck balls so it doesn't matter who's playing Green Arrow. It's going to be a disservice to the character.


He's better off on Sons of Anarchy.

 

[Webhead2006]

We have no clue how the pilot will be yet. Since casting isn't locked and still early enough for changes to happen.

 

[Karelia]

I disagree, but this pilot is gonna suck balls so it doesn't matter who's playing Green Arrow. It's going to be a disservice to the character.


He's better off on Sons of Anarchy.

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I don't mind them giving him a little sister either, I agree with solidsnake86's post.

 

[solidsnake86]

I disagree, but this pilot is gonna suck balls so it doesn't matter who's playing Green Arrow. It's going to be a disservice to the character.


He's better off on Sons of Anarchy.

lol, Has anyone even cared enough for the character, more than a passing interest, for them to cause a disservice.

Sticking to the comics, in the case of green arrow, is sure to tank the series in 1 episode, given this take may not be any better.

Sometimes there's a fine line between remaining true to the source material and being a slave to it. A lot of things in comics make no sense and don't work in a live action setting. As long as they keep the core and similar elements I'm all for interpretation.

Frankly, having batman and Iron man being rich billionaires, with no family, in the public eye is enough to warrant them taking a new route with Green Arrow.

This isn't aimed at you rockstar but I find it funny how much message board posters have almost become caricatures. They announce a few changes and right away the response is thats dumb, why change things, without watching anything.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

I'm not as outraged as I was when I heard about David E. Kelley's Wonder Woman pilot, but that's probably because I know so much less about Green Arrow than I do Wonder Woman. And the fact that at least this Green Arrow pilot keeps some of the most fundamental basics, such as Ollie being a reformed playboy and liberal vigilante, who takes up the bow after being stranded on an island.

But yeah, these ideas are pretty blatantly shoving Green Arrow into the standard CW formula. I can see the ongoing TV potential here, and they've clearly got a variety of plans in mind for the entire supporting cast. I'm just not that excited to see a "Green Arrow" teen/family drama filled with made-up characters, or drastic alterations of existing characters (i.e. legal crusader Dinah, *****ebag Meryln).

It won't be the end of the world for me if this proposed pilot becomes an actual show, like DEK's WW would've been. I might even give it a chance and watch it, although I'm not sure how long I might be able to bear the inevitable watered down adaptations. But I wouldn't be sad at all if this idea ended up in the same scrap heap as the Grayson or Raven shows.

 

[Karelia]

lol, Has anyone even cared enough for the character, more than a passing interest, for them to cause a disservice.

Sticking to the comics, in the case of green arrow, is sure to tank the series in 1 episode, given this take may not be any better.

Sometimes there's a fine line between remaining true to the source material and being a slave to it. A lot of things in comics make no sense and don't work in a live action setting. As long as they keep the core and similar elements I'm all for interpretation.

Frankly, having batman and Iron man being rich billionaires, with no family, in the public eye is enough to warrant them taking a new route with Green Arrow.

This isn't aimed at you rockstar but I find it funny how much message board posters have almost become caricatures. They announce a few changes and right away the response is thats dumb, why change things, without watching anything.

I love GA, but I definitely understand them changing some things. Because you're right, some things just wouldn't work outside of comics. They are keeping the core, so I'm happy with that.

 

[solidsnake86]

^Thats cool, I like GA but when I went to look for books to read there is very little out there.

Which is sad because there is so much potential that I'm shocked no writer has really done something to him. There is so much story potential and you aren't really constrained like you would be with batman and superman.

His villains are also severly lacking. I could see them doing a new take on count vertigo.

I did enjoy reading year one, thought that was a great book.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

Frankly, having batman and Iron man being rich billionaires, with no family, in the public eye is enough to warrant them taking a new route with Green Arrow.

So to get away from the Batman and Iron Man comparisons, they play up the rich playboy aspect of Green Arrow? Only he has a family, to comply with the CW formula? Why not start the show with him as a full costumed superhero, already having sold his company and donated much of his wealth? They're taking something from one genre (that appeals to one set of demographics), and shoving it into another.

I don't even know that much about Green Arrow. My only real experience with the character is Justice League Unlimited and the DC Showcase short. So I don't have much to compare this proposed pilot to. But I'm already underwhelmed by ideas like Ollie having a young Paris Hilton for a sister, or Merlyn being his best friend and a stereotypical *****ebag.

These ideas are far less offensive to me than "Wonder Woman: Billionaire Exec," but they're less appealing than Smallville's original premise. And I loved Smallville's first couple seasons. It had WB teen plots but didn't do much to overtly screw with the source material or the genre.

Now I liked Smallville quite a bit, but I never even caught up with its later seasons. Things like Clark running around in a trenchcoat and calling himself "the Blur" just water the whole concept down. I have a strong feeling that if this Green Arrow show goes on, it will have more guest stars and comic references, but ironically drift more and more from what people actually want to see in a genre show like this.

 

[solidsnake86]

They have to create a story somehow, if thats the way the creators of the show want to take it thats up to them. Plus you would have to see if it even gets picked up.

As for the source material, it isnt the be all end all. Most of the times the source material sucks. Just because it shows up in a comic first doesn't mean it should be used.

From these brief descriptions they seemed like they remained very true to Oliver's character, who cares if he has a sister and a mother. At least with Batman he has alfred to talk to if you made a tv series. Oliver doesn't have any of those characters. It would get boring fast if he parades around week to week fighting villains that no one cares for with no plot.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I mean what is the generally accepted method by which she gained her super powers?

I mean, she got those before she put on a costume and joined a super team, right?



Right?

ya she was born with them. She is a meta. Which hopefully she retains if this show gets to series. Taking them away is just bringing me flashes of the failed Birds of Prey tv show. Plus they dont need to shove themselves into such a "realistic" corner where they wont be able to use any super powered villans/heroes.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

I agree that slavish devotion to the source material isn't a good way to approach things, and that the comics themselves include a lot of crap. What I hope this show doesn't do though is completely water down anything they reference from previously known material. I don't want to see a bunch of halfhearted and coy portrayals, or INO versions of guest characters.

 

[Webhead2006]

for me its good if they can find a good balance of what is key things from comics while putting there own twists and changes on things. Look at smallville love or hate it, it was its own thing, put alot of new spin of mythos, but also included various elements from many differet eras of the comic book history. If they can do that with green arrow i would be happy.

 

[TwilightPro101]

I'm curious to see what villain, that they have lined up for the pilot.

 

[Karelia]

^Thats cool, I like GA but when I went to look for books to read there is very little out there.

Which is sad because there is so much potential that I'm shocked no writer has really done something to him. There is so much story potential and you aren't really constrained like you would be with batman and superman.

His villains are also severly lacking. I could see them doing a new take on count vertigo.

I did enjoy reading year one, thought that was a great book.

He is lacking villains aside from Count Vertigo and Merlyn. Who knows, maybe this show will spawn some amazing villains they will adapt to comic books. Harley Quinn wasn't originally from the comic books, but now she's got her own series out and all that. t:

Year One remains my favorite Green Arrow graphic novel. Longbow Hunters is pretty sweet as well. I can't wait to see what they do with him in the new Justice League comics.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Onomatopoeia live action!

 

[Primal Slayer]

Even though I doubt it will happen, be allowed to even happen, or even thought of..I wouldnt mind if they took Huntress and started her out as a villan turned hero later on.

 

[Webhead2006]

well like smallville which had to go through many legal red tape issues with wb/dc comics on heroes/villains that turned up in the show. First i would think ollie's rouges would be allowed. Now yes he doesnt have as wide range of iconic baddies as say superman/batman/or hell even the flash. He still has a good handful of villains that could be some good reacourring baddies through the show.

Then they could always do like smallville did and toss in a few generalize dc villains to pop in from time to time, or maybe some BC/birds of prey villains too. Then you got also normal thugs, criminals, and corrupt businessmen/woman, and political folks they can do.

 

[Anubis]

Constantine Drakon would be fairly easy.

 

[Jordacar]

ya she was born with them. She is a meta. Which hopefully she retains if this show gets to series. Taking them away is just bringing me flashes of the failed Birds of Prey tv show. Plus they dont need to shove themselves into such a "realistic" corner where they wont be able to use any super powered villans/heroes.

With that, I figure they could either a) give her a new non-meta origin, or b) drop an occasional hint until one day she busts out the canary cry, which she had all along and told nobody.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I hope they dont drop that aspect of her because it gives them such an easy way to introduce JSA characters if they wanted to.

 

[Sawyer]

Hopefully we get to see a greater number of the JSA than we saw on Smallville. I mean, I loved their Hawkman (aside from the voice) and Dr. Fate, but I wanna see Wildcat and Jay Garrick and Alan Scott.

 

[Lone]

I kinda want Ryan McPartlin as Ollie and Yvonne Strahotski as Dinah.

 

[Sawyer]

Nah. Save McPartlin for the Booster Gold project on Syfy.

But Strahotski? Oh yeah. Big time.

 

[enterthemadness]

I am bummed this is not connected to Smallville. No same actor. >_< oh you CW...me no watch.

Unless if Casper Van Dien or Adrian Paul show up, maybe some General Hospital actors....but outside of that, you can go take a timeout, Mr. Timeout for being a epic failure of a network. Even NBC disses you. That low.

 

[Rockstar]

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