Green Arrow the Movie, anyone?

[Kar]

We can hope, right?

Pretty much all we can do

 

[OmarBatGeek]

I just don't understand why DC is sitting around on their asses, at least compared to Marvel. They're shooting out a ton of new movies all over the place. Granted they have more characters that are well known and likely to already have a large fanbase that will go to see them, but why is DC being so slow on the uptake?

 

[Godzilla2014]

It depends on her role. Crime fighting duo who fall in love? Detracts. Flirtatious ,misunderstanding strangers who inadvertently teach one another something and create a little spark of what could be to come? Firm focus on Ollie and his growth, with love interest without slapping you in the face with it or giving him emotional woes.

Sounds interesting.

DC Comics is rebooting Green Arrow. The new version of the character will most likely weight in on a potential Live-Action movie with him.

I think that, with a great writer, he has a lot of potential to make a great film.

Doubt it.

The thing with DC is they're obviously worried that no one will care to see a Green Arrow movie (not even just Green Arrow, but any other superhero that isn't Bat or Supe related). There's been talks of a Deadman movie and of course the Super Max script, but it feels like they don't wanna even attempt to pedal these characters who are just as interesting and amazing as Batman and Superman. It kinda sucks. I really wanted a Deadman movie.

EDIT: Didn't even realize I started this thread a long time again. Damnit I wish I remembered my password -___-

I think Warner Brothers is testing the waters for adaptations of the less well known or popular DC characters with the upcoming Green Lantern film.

I just don't understand why DC is sitting around on their asses, at least compared to Marvel. They're shooting out a ton of new movies all over the place. Granted they have more characters that are well known and likely to already have a large fanbase that will go to see them, but why is DC being so slow on the uptake?

Marvel license their hottest properties out to other studios because they were nearly bankrupt. When they decided to start their own studio, they didn't have their blockbuster franchises to fall back on. If they still had Spider-Man, X-Men, and Fantastic Four, there might not even be Iron Man, Thor, or Captain America movies.

 

[Airwings]

When GW and BC meet on the field, what if she mysteriously appear from nowhere to help him fight a bunch of criminals and then reveals a secret? Something along the lines of

Oliver (surprised): Who are you?

Dina: You can see me as a guardian angel. But I'm not the only one out there

Then she holds a speech and tell him there are a lot of extraordinary people out there, all kinds of powers - from strechting abilities to mind reading - and they are the ones that are the rescuers when somebody is saved from a dangerous situation without knowing how it happened. These heroes never reeveals themself to anyone without powers, but BC says she's the first to do so (with GA, because of him becoming a hero)

 

[chris moore]

That opens up the 'movie-verse' far too much for a street level hero based film that's supposed to be an origin story. Not even Iron Man 2 actively talked about other superheroes - and they'd acknowledged he wasn't the only one out there at the end of the first film.

 

[Airwings]

It could end the GA film, and open up for a greater perspective. Maybe lead up to a Justice League? Or a Lantern/Arrow team-up.

 

[OmarBatGeek]

They've already announced a JLA movie, haven't they?

 

[Godzilla2014]

When GW and BC meet on the field, what if she mysteriously appear from nowhere to help him fight a bunch of criminals and then reveals a secret? Something along the lines of

Oliver (surprised): Who are you?

Dina: You can see me as a guardian angel. But I'm not the only one out there

Then she holds a speech and tell him there are a lot of extraordinary people out there, all kinds of powers - from strechting abilities to mind reading - and they are the ones that are the rescuers when somebody is saved from a dangerous situation without knowing how it happened. These heroes never reeveals themself to anyone without powers, but BC says she's the first to do so (with GA, because of him becoming a hero)

Seems kind of weird. It might come off as being pointless exposition.

That opens up the 'movie-verse' far too much for a street level hero based film that's supposed to be an origin story. Not even Iron Man 2 actively talked about other superheroes - and they'd acknowledged he wasn't the only one out there at the end of the first film.

Agreed.

It could end the GA film, and open up for a greater perspective. Maybe lead up to a Justice League? Or a Lantern/Arrow team-up.

I think it might be interesting to see that.

 

[Shazam]

am i the only one that wants to see this film made? I personally think green arrow is a great hero, who stands up for the little man, which is something you can't necessarily say for superman or batman. Sure they fight crime, but i mean green arrow speaks and doesn't hide in the shadows, or isn't too busy fighting giant robots or aliens and junk. He could battle the yakuza that has moved into star city during his time on the island.

The movie could go like:

-it starts off with a young oliver queen (like maybe 18-19) who is shown as a thrill seeker and who shirks off on his duties. He doesn't wanna run the family business because he's interested in other things.
-years later he is shown as a party man, but also head of the family company, and his birthday is coming up. He gets into an argument with his father about being a man and accepting your responsibilities, and this angers ollie, so while on his yatch (sp?) with all his party guests, he gets drunk and sneaks off on an emergency raft, but gets overthrown due to his drunken actions. Luckily, he finds himself washed up on some deserted island (he finds a flare gun that was in the emergency raft and holds it with him for emergency).
-the months pass and he begins to get used to life on the island. He hunts for his own food, using a bow and arrow he made himself. Meanwhile, while hunting, falls into a hole dug into the ground to trap animals or people in, and he breaks his leg and arm, so he's stuck there for days, feeding off of worms and bugs and lizards he finds crawling around.
-finally, he hears an airplane flying over, so he grabs the flare gun and fires the shot, but it turns out they dont see it, and the flare lands somewhere in a marijuana field, setting it on fire. Ollie recognizes the smell form his teenage years and begins learning to use his legs again. He climbs out the hole and finds a marijuana field completely on fire, and a small cabin not too far from it and sees that people were hear. Then some drug runners come on shore and attack ollie, but he manages to fight them off and tie them together, putting them on their boat and heads back to shore.
-after returning, he gets used to the life that he left, meets back up with his old college sweetheart, finds out his company had been sold my his parents, and sees that the city has changed and has become pretty bad, and the mayor isn't doing much to help. Also, the yakuza has moved in the neighborhood and run stuff, but ollie doesn't like this, so he dons a costume and a bow and arrow and takes to the streets to fight what the mayor refuses to (we can also have shado in the yakuza too, of course).

I think it would be pretty good, how about you?

no.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I had an idea to get around Green Arrow's lack of rogues gallery: Have the film's story focus on him fighting his own inner demons. He could fight various street criminals, possibly including some supervillains, but the idea would be that said villains wouldn't be a story thread that ran from beginning to end, mostly just appearing for certain scene in which they commit a crime and Green Arrow defeats them. Rather, the threat to Oliver Queen would be himself and his character flaws, and how they keep him from being the person he wants to be. Thoughts?

 

[cherokeesam]

I had an idea to get around Green Arrow's lack of rogues gallery: Have the film's story focus on him fighting his own inner demons. He could fight various street criminals, possibly including some supervillains, but the idea would be that said villains wouldn't be a story thread that ran from beginning to end, mostly just appearing for certain scene in which they commit a crime and Green Arrow defeats them. Rather, the threat to Oliver Queen would be himself and his character flaws, and how they keep him from being the person he wants to be. Thoughts?

Something like that.

The two defining characteristics of GA that set him apart from the rest of DC's heroes are (a) archery + trick arrows --- the trick arrows *are* his "superpower" --- and (b) his far-left activism. Those definitely should be the focus of any standalone Green Arrow movie.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Something like that.

The two defining characteristics of GA that set him apart from the rest of DC's heroes are (a) archery + trick arrows --- the trick arrows *are* his "superpower" --- and (b) his far-left activism. Those definitely should be the focus of any standalone Green Arrow movie.

I agree, though I would state that I think it's more so that he stands up for what he believes, no matter how unpopular it is or the consequences. He's also a very flawed and undisciplined hero, and I'd say that this is a very big difference between Green Arrow and Batman. He screws up a lot, but through it all, he tries to do what he thinks is right. I'm hoping that could propel the film, it could potentially be a great drama. It's a risky gamble, but I think that will pay off more than playing it safe.

I was thinking that I might have the film focus on Oliver Queen as an activist and superhero, he might have to stop a corrupt politician. But,for the climax,

Spoiler

instead of Green Arrow having a big confrontation with the villain, Queen exposes him to the public and provides evidence of his corrupt activities to the police.

Thoughts?

 

[chris moore]

Multiple villains, either super or themed in an origin movie, would likely deplete that which could be used in any sequels where the next villain has to outdo the previous one. Ollie just doesn't have enough for that. Plus it risks making the film seem too all over the place, where an origin film needs focus on one task, with secondary less important tasks in the background. To have Ollie fight people all over the place with nothing linking them would make it seem like the writers and the director couldn't really think what to do with him.

Also, because Ollie doesn't have a family tragedy to send him down the hero path, he needs something to spur him on to change and become better. Learning how so many people have so little, by having to survive on so little himself for "x" amount of time isn't enough.
For one, one could argue that he could go out there a spoiled playboy who doesn't see it as his responsibility as a rich guy to take care of the little guy, only to come back from the island and feel like he managed to survive with less than most of the people he's supposed to be charitable to, and without any help. So why go out of his way to give them aid - surely they should learn like he did.

No, Ollie needs some kind of drive to make him the liberal man of the people we know and love. He needs high society corruption that actively hurts the little guy, to finally see that giving cash is never enough when the people doing the hurting are cash.

 

[Airwings]

I would like to see a poll with director candidates for Green Arrow.

 

[chris moore]

How about Queen Industries being predominately a shipping company. Ollie's parents die in a plane crash on their way to a skiing holiday. Ollie is named as CEO in his father's will (an attempt to force the young man to grow up), and after much pressure from the board, Ollie finally agrees to go and check on his father's latest operation as a show to the public that Queen Industries is still strong, and in family hands. Ollie however only agreed to the proposal because the operation is in Madagascar, and Ollie sees it as an opportunity to escape the board and party in the Seychelles for a few weeks.

After carrying out the laborious task of checking out the new holding, Ollie gathers a group of "friends" and takes a Queen Industries yacht out into the Indian Ocean. He disables the GPS system to prevent the meddling board from coming to find him and spoiling his fun.

After several days of partying however, the yacht is attacked by Somali pirates (having heard who was on board through a careless party guest while on a supply gathering detour, and hoping for ransom value). In the ensuing boarding, one of the guests is shot in the head to make a point. All hell breaks loose and everyone panics. Ollie takes his chances and grabs a spear gun, shooting one of the men in the arm. The pirate however pulls the trigger of his gun on reflex, and the shots rupture the oxygen tanks strapped to the yacht. The tanks explode, and Ollie and several other guests are blown over the side in a ball of flame. The pirates assume them dead, and go about robbing the remaining guests (We only see Ollie going under the water, then the pirate leader yelling at his crewmen to gather the hostages - lots of shouting and screaming, leading to another underwater shot of Ollie as the sounds above become dim the deeper he sinks - fade out to second act washed up on the island)

Ollie finds he's the only survivor of the explosion, as his friends eventually wash up on shore too - burns on their bodies indicating the explosion got them before the waters did.

Then we go into survival, and some clever explanation as to why he chooses to construct a bow over anything else.

 

[Godzilla2014]

How about Queen Industries being predominately a shipping company. Ollie's parents die in a plane crash on their way to a skiing holiday. Ollie is named as CEO in his father's will (an attempt to force the young man to grow up), and after much pressure from the board, Ollie finally agrees to go and check on his father's latest operation as a show to the public that Queen Industries is still strong, and in family hands. Ollie however only agreed to the proposal because the operation is in Madagascar, and Ollie sees it as an opportunity to escape the board and party in the Seychelles for a few weeks.

After carrying out the laborious task of checking out the new holding, Ollie gathers a group of "friends" and takes a Queen Industries yacht out into the Indian Ocean. He disables the GPS system to prevent the meddling board from coming to find him and spoiling his fun.

After several days of partying however, the yacht is attacked by Somali pirates (having heard who was on board through a careless party guest while on a supply gathering detour, and hoping for ransom value). In the ensuing boarding, one of the guests is shot in the head to make a point. All hell breaks loose and everyone panics. Ollie takes his chances and grabs a spear gun, shooting one of the men in the arm. The pirate however pulls the trigger of his gun on reflex, and the shots rupture the oxygen tanks strapped to the yacht. The tanks explode, and Ollie and several other guests are blown over the side in a ball of flame. The pirates assume them dead, and go about robbing the remaining guests (We only see Ollie going under the water, then the pirate leader yelling at his crewmen to gather the hostages - lots of shouting and screaming, leading to another underwater shot of Ollie as the sounds above become dim the deeper he sinks - fade out to second act washed up on the island)

Ollie finds he's the only survivor of the explosion, as his friends eventually wash up on shore too - burns on their bodies indicating the explosion got them before the waters did.

Then we go into survival, and some clever explanation as to why he chooses to construct a bow over anything else.

Sounds interesting.

 

[MadVillainy]

THat sounds interesting. I'd like to see that

BUt I wonder if someone might say it's similar to Iron Man

 

[Godzilla2014]

THat sounds interesting. I'd like to see that

BUt I wonder if someone might say it's similar to Iron Man

It may be, and the thing I am worried about is that a Green Arrow is at high risk of being formulaic as an origin story. One thing that I would change from chris moore's suggestion is keep Oliver Queen's parents alive, so that you can have him interact with them, and avoid parental loss trauma that is common in these origin stories.

 

[chris moore]

While trauma of a parent's death leading the hero down the path is something we obviously want to avoid with GA for fear of him being seen by an unknowing audience as Batman-lite; in Ollie's case the death of his parents was a simple accident, and one at a much older age (say, late-teens when he's in college) and his reaction to it was to shirk all responsibilities because his old man worked every day of his life and look where it got him (if we change the flight to a business trip). Ollie loses himself in partying to avoid facing the loss - whereas Bruce collapses into his parent's death and does nothing but focus on it (at first). It's seeing what having nothing can teach a man about himself that really shows Ollie what he's capable of - not trauma at his parent's death.

Just don't have Ollie face a former business rival, have his shipwreck be a sinister plot by a rival or a "trusted" friend or partner, and make his fortune a burden to him once he returns rather than the means to be the hero - and I don't think we'd have any fear of an Iron Man comparison.

Normal kid, feeling the pressure of father's success, parent die, parties, begrudgingly takes on role as CEO, goes on trip, runs from trip, gets into some deep doo doo that costs lives, gets shipwrecked, learns to survive. Then a similar story to that of Green Arrow: Year 1 where on the island he eventually runs into drug runners who turn out to be BIG drug runners, he cripples their operation and manages to follow the boss back to the States where he keeps a low profile (ie mask) so he can hunt them and avoid the palava of people learning he's returned. Boss winds up working with corrupt corporation (make up your own drug/land/shipping/personnel business plan that could link them) who seem untouchable, Ollie takes them down and exposes them, he returns to his company and takes over the bad one as a final "I have to accept my responsibilities - across the board, and do the best I can with them"

 

[MadVillainy]

Yeah and it seems people are starting to wise up to generic origin stories. I have ethe same worry about alot of potential superhero stories
I mean look at GA's and IM's

 

[Godzilla2014]

While trauma of a parent's death leading the hero down the path is something we obviously want to avoid with GA for fear of him being seen by an unknowing audience as Batman-lite; in Ollie's case the death of his parents was a simple accident, and one at a much older age (say, late-teens when he's in college) and his reaction to it was to shirk all responsibilities because his old man worked every day of his life and look where it got him (if we change the flight to a business trip). Ollie loses himself in partying to avoid facing the loss - whereas Bruce collapses into his parent's death and does nothing but focus on it (at first). It's seeing what having nothing can teach a man about himself that really shows Ollie what he's capable of - not trauma at his parent's death.

Still, dead parents are dead parents, so lets avoid that. Oliver's parents don't need to be dead, so don't have them die, and instead have them be present. Move away from the crowd, don't join it.

Yeah and it seems people are starting to wise up to generic origin stories. I have ethe same worry about alot of potential superhero stories
I mean look at GA's and IM's

Exactly. I want a Green Arrow film that does for Green Arrow's popularity what Iron Man did for Iron Man's popularity.

 

[MadVillainy]

I think they should combine the Silver Age and Modern Age origin

 

[chris moore]

Still, dead parents are dead parents, so lets avoid that. Oliver's parents don't need to be dead, so don't have them die, and instead have them be present. Move away from the crowd, don't join it

Pretty simple then - parents alive, and dad wants Ollie to be more grown up and realise where his wealth comes from instead of just throw it about. Sends him on trip - same as I said

 

[MadVillainy]

I dont mind having dead parents but I think if theyre going to kill hem that they shouldnt have him as the reason why Queen acts the way he does

 

[Godzilla2014]

I think they should combine the Silver Age and Modern Age origin

How so?

Pretty simple then - parents alive, and dad wants Ollie to be more grown up and realise where his wealth comes from instead of just throw it about. Sends him on trip - same as I said

I think that would be great.

I dont mind having dead parents but I think if theyre going to kill hem that they shouldnt have him as the reason why Queen acts the way he does

The way I see it, if their deaths aren't important to the story, then don't kill them off.