Green Lantern Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 1

[KRIM]

So am I. I feel the same about Wonder Woman and Aquaman as well.

I will say this though. While I enjoyed GL for what it was. There was just too much wasted potential in it. So that shows me they're not even putting the right care into really mining the creative potential of these properties. Which ironically would make them more bank in return as Nolan proved. They did the same thing with the Hex movie and now this.

I rather they stop making DC adaptations altogether than watch the cinematic potential of these great characters not be exploited in a disappointing film.

I disagree. On paper, the production was relatively in safe hands. They had an award-winning crew, a proven director of character refreshes, and marketable young leads. They brought in Geoff Johns, a GL alumni to oversee the project. If things were so bad, most of us would have called them out on it way before the reviews started pouring in. The truth is, WB tried to put out a winning combo based on track records, but it backfired on them. The only thing they can really provide is money, and this crew had boatloads of it to handle. GL is easily the most marketed film of the year so far, so as a studio WB did their part.

It was the crew that failed us.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

Daredevil made $40 million on opening weekend while Ghost Rider made $45 million on opening weekend.

 

[Chewy]

Daredevil made $40 million on opening weekend while Ghost Rider made $45 million on opening weekend.

Ticket price inflation + 3D ticket prices

 

[Poni_Boy]

All entertainment websites, like ew, ign, rt quote Boxoffice Mojo as the medium for Box Office numbers. It is accurate, no matter how much you would like it not to be.

Yeah, BOM set the status quo for reliable numbers. Unless you're getting your figures from the studios directly, you quote them. Not Deadline, not The Hollywood Reporter (who do push their own agendas subtly)

 

[Silver Surfer]

Daredevil made $40 million on opening weekend while Ghost Rider made $45 million on opening weekend.

Yes and they did it without 3d ticket prices. 45% of GLs ticket sales were from 3d, that's why it made more money than GR and DD in spite of less attendance.

 

[Tony Stark]

Brandon Gray has said plenty of negative things about Thor and Iron Man 2. They are pretty objective, and more than fair, even if I don't agree with everything they write.

But pretty much Steve Wonder can see that this is a monumental failure of a franchise start, no matter what the spin.

 

[The Morningstar]

I disagree. On paper, the production was relatively in safe hands. They had an award-winning crew, a proven director of character refreshes, and marketable young leads. They brought in Geoff Johns, a GL alumni to oversee the project. If things were so bad, most of us would have called them out on it way before the reviews started pouring in. The truth is, WB tried to put out a winning combo based on track records, but it backfired on them. The only thing they can really provide is money, and this crew had boatloads of it to handle. GL is easily the most marketed film of the year so far, so as a studio WB did their part.

It was the crew that failed us.

No, it was the no name TV writers that failed us.

The script is the key. If you have a ****** script it wouldn't matter if you had Coppola directing.

 

[Cain]

I disagree. On paper, the production was relatively in safe hands. They had an award-winning crew, a proven director of character refreshes, and marketable young leads. They brought in Geoff Johns, a GL alumni to oversee the project. If things were so bad, most of us would have called them out on it way before the reviews started pouring in. The truth is, WB tried to put out a winning combo based on track records, but it backfired on them. The only thing they can really provide is money, and this crew had boatloads of it to handle. GL is easily the most marketed film of the year so far, so as a studio WB did their part.

It was the crew that failed us.

Geoff Johns was barely involved. When he got on board this production was already a ways in. I don't champion his involvement much anyway cause though I read his GL book I don't agree with a lot of what he did with the mythos. I just give him props on making it such a best selling book. To the point that even Marvel fans look at that ONE DC book every month.

He took a charming and smart character from the silver and bronze ages; who was born fearless; then had a great heartbreaking but realistic fall turned him into a fearful insecure tool once he didn't write him as Spectre anymore.

All his retcons are a reason I have issues with him. It's what makes me laugh about people that **** on the Hal in this movie though. It's for all intents an purposes very much in line with the silver age version of the guy. Before Johns made him boring to read decades later this iteration did exist. People just brush that off. But I digress.

My point is the studio hires the crew (directors, writers, cinematographers etc.) at the end of the day. It's their job and the producers jobs to find the right talent and pair it with the material. In this case WB is both the production company and the studio. There is no reason a movie like Thor with a concept as outlandish or even moreso than this one got a more graceful adaptation. Marvel went out of their way to give the material to someone who cared. WB did not. So this does fall on them.

Mind you I do think for the record Campbell did a good job directing because if he didn't his cast wouldn't have been able to make the best of the beyond shoddy script they were working from. However that still doesn't excuse the fact that while talented he just wasn't the man for this movie. He didn't really have the passion for it. Even Burton at the end of the day made a Batman that he put his complete heart into & we all know he wasn't the biggest comic book fan. You saw his passion for it in the finished product. You don't see that in GL. It feels like a hired gun picture all the way.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea. Marvel had Branaugh, Shakespeare expert, do Thor.

WB had Martin Campbell, who is a great director no doubt, do GL. A movie he is just totally wrong for.

Ironically Campbell would be better suited to Flash or something.

There just didn't actually seem to be much thought put into this movie. It was "Hey cast Reynolds he's hot right now!" and "Hey cast Martin Campbell he made the awesome Casino Royale!" without actually putting any real thought into the choices.

 

[MadVillainy]

Campbell wouldve been better suited for Green Arrow I think.

 

[The Morningstar]

Good shout. Really good shout. He would've.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

Ticket price inflation + 3D ticket prices

Sure, if you want to take those two things into account.

 

[The Morningstar]

Sure, if you want to take those two things into account.

And why wouldn't you?

You really are something else feller.

 

[FreeRadical]

Geoff Johns was barely involved. When he got on board this production was already a ways in. I don't champion his involvement much anyway cause though I read his GL book I don't agree with a lot of what he did with the mythos. I just give him props on making it such a best selling book. To the point that even Marvel fans look at that ONE DC book every month.

He took a charming and smart character from the silver and bronze ages; who was born fearless; then had a great heartbreaking but realistic fall turned him into a fearful insecure tool once he didn't write him as Spectre anymore.

All his retcons are a reason I have issues with him. It's what makes me laugh about people that **** on the Hal in this movie though. It's for all intents an purposes very much in line with the silver age version of the guy. Before Johns made him boring to read decades later this iteration did exist. People just brush that off. But I digress.

My point is the studio hires the crew (directors, writers, cinematographers etc.) at the end of the day. It's their job and the producers jobs to find the right talent and pair it with the material. In this case WB is both the production company and the studio. There is no reason a movie like Thor with a concept as outlandish or even moreso than this one got a more graceful adaptation. Marvel went out of their way to give the material to someone who cared. WB did not. So this does fall on them.

Mind you I do think for the record Campbell did a good job directing because if he didn't his cast wouldn't have been able to make the best of the beyond shoddy script they were working from. However that still doesn't excuse the fact that while talented he just wasn't the man for this movie. He didn't really have the passion for it. Even Burton at the end of the day made a Batman that he put his complete heart into & we all know he wasn't the biggest comic book fan. You saw his passion for it in the finished product. You don't see that in GL. It feels like a hired gun picture all the way.

Geoff Johns was fully involved from the start

http://www.fastcompany.com/1760583/the-green-lantern-guru

http://www.deadline.com/2011/06/green-lantern-makes-3-35m-midnights/

 

[JP]

Sure, if you want to take those two things into account.

When talking about ATTENDANCE, yes.

 

[Silver Surfer]

He seems to be doing everything possible to try to convince him self that GL didn't sell less tickets than GR or DD.

 

[The Morningstar]

The worst kind of liar is one who lies to himself. True story.

 

[Karelia]

He seems to be doing everything possible to try to convince him self that GL didn't sell less tickets than GR or DD.

I don't blame him. I don't want to believe that either.

 

[MadVillainy]

None of us want to believe it laddie

 

[The Morningstar]

In all honesty though, you have to figure in the fact that Affleck was huge when Daredevil came out. You could even say Farrell was pretty big as well. And Ghost Rider had Nic Cage and Eva Mendes.

Reynolds isn't on their levels. No one in GL is, in terms of fame.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Yes and they did it without 3d ticket prices.

IIRC, DD also had to contend with a massive snowstorm mucking its business.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I don't blame him. I don't want to believe that either.

I wasn't 'trying' to convinced myself, I just think that there are people who hate the movie to the point where they would act desperate in an attempt to make the movie seem as bad as it is. Even if it means spreading one lie or more.

 

[MadVillainy]

And I think theyre people who like the movie so much and try make the movie more successful then it actually was

 

[The Morningstar]

I wasn't 'trying' to convinced myself, I just think that there are people who hate the movie to the point where they would act desperate in an attempt to make the movie seem as bad as it is. Even if it means spreading one lie or more.

No, we're just talking straight up facts right here. No opinions involved.

Green Lantern sold less tickets than DD and Ghost Rider.

 

[EML420]

Men lie women lie numbers dont.