Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows - Part 2

[Victarion]

Ok I thought that Harry Potter was SUPPOSE to Die???


Once Voldemort blasted him and destroyed the horocrux....Harry should be dead. What is up with that??

Also,


If they can Teleport at will....why do they need the flying brooms to get out of that fire????

I figured Voldy really blasted that part of his soul attached to Harry. One could interpret King's Cross as Harry having taken some damage from the killing curse due to the attachment that part of Voldy's had to Harry. Hence he could've gone on into the afterlife, or returned to life.

 

[lime]

Ok I thought that Harry Potter was SUPPOSE to Die???


If they can Teleport at will....why do they need the flying brooms to get out of that fire????

Harry had two souls in him. He's own and the peace of Voldemort's. When Voldemort 'killed' Harry, he killed he's own soul. It's like Harry has two lives. He lost one, but had other.

As for the teleportation. Every potter fan knows that you can't teleport inside the school.

PS: Voldemort is an exception since he is the most powerful wizard in the world.

 

[danoyse]

By the way, was anyone else surprised to see [BLACKOUT]Greyback chewing out Lavender Brown's throat?? [/BLACKOUT]

 

[Angel_Faerie]

I was, but I remembered it from the book so it wasn't a huge shock. I remember there was discussion for a long time if she survived the attack and all that implies.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Indeed and I have no problem with that. He's still just a teen. I'm assuming by the epilogue of Deathly Hallows, he becomes a pretty powerful auror.

Oh, I agree with that as well. However, I don't think Harry will ever reach Dumbledore, Voldermort, or Grindelwald levels. Really, the last scene of the book and movie illustrate this the best. The [BLACKOUT] giving up of the elder wand[/BLACKOUT]

This shows that Harry has never been someone who's wanted power like the above three. It's part of what makes him a better person. He's never felt the urge to become one of the most powerful wizards of all time.

Also, on that vein, I was extremely happy with

Spoiler

How they handled the elder wand. I've been saying I hope he snaps it in the movie ever since the seventh book came out. Because, if you follow the established logic in the books of wand ownership, the Elder Wand's power was NOT broken the way Harry did it in the books.

By just putting the Elder wand in Dumbledore's tomb, Harry could still keep the chain going. All someone has to do is disarm Harry. Because Harry won ownership of the Elder wand by disarming Draco when Draco was just using his normal wand. If someone disarms Harry while Harry's just using his normal wand, the Elder wand's power continues. Breaking it was much better.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I was, but I remembered it from the book so it wasn't a huge shock. I remember there was discussion for a long time if she survived the attack and all that implies.

Wait...what? I don't remember that happening in the book.

 

[Angel_Faerie]

Wait...what? I don't remember that happening in the book.

I seem to remember it happening, but not much focus was placed on it.

 

[DIRECTOR]

guys, i have a question, observation

[blackout]is snape Harry's real dad? I know harry fanatics will come after me, but the movie will be extremely great if it was, because we never got involved w/ the dad, only the mother. Plus, both Lilly and Snape has the Dove as the petronis, and you see Dumbledore say, "ALL THIS TIME". Like, all this time you been the father?????? Is the book also a bit vague, not saying it straight out? [/blackout]

 

[danoyse]

I seem to remember it happening, but not much focus was placed on it.

It did, I just looked it up. I had forgotten all about it. Hermione had blasted Greyback away from the "feebly stirring body of Lavender Brown" and Trewlaney clocked him with a crystal ball. I don't remember whether it said if she survived or not. She was definitely dead in the movie.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I seem to remember it happening, but not much focus was placed on it.

You're right. She was attacked, but killed in the book. Hermione rescued her from Greyback.

 

[04nbod]

Only the death of Fred got any moment in the book as I remember. All these bodies start piling up out of nowhere

 

[danoyse]

guys, i have a question, observation

[blackout]is snape Harry's real dad? I know harry fanatics will come after me, but the movie will be extremely great if it was, because we never got involved w/ the dad, only the mother. Plus, both Lilly and Snape has the Dove as the petronis, and you see Dumbledore say, "ALL THIS TIME". Like, all this time you been the father?????? Is the book also a bit vague, not saying it straight out? [/blackout]

No, James is Harry's father. "All this time" referred to Snape still being in love with Lily. His patronus was the same as Lily's.

 

[John Locke]

Also Lily's patronas is a doe because it's the female equivalent of James' patronas, a stag.

 

[The Lizard]

"All this time" referred to Snape still being in love with Lily. His patronus was the same as Lily's.

I wonder if Snape's patronus changed to become like Lily's later in his life, or if Lily cast a patronus first as a student, and afterwards Snape cast his first patronus as a doe also, because of his love for Lily.

 

[Drizzle]

By the way, was anyone else surprised to see [BLACKOUT]Greyback chewing out Lavender Brown's throat?? [/BLACKOUT]

What surprised me more was that Ron had no reaction to that whatsoever. It was his ex-girlfriend, after all.

 

[danoyse]

The part they did leave out was that when Snape went to Dumbledore to beg him to protect Lily, he was only concerned about Lily's protection. When Dumbledore mentioned James and Harry, Snape reacted like he hadn't even thought about them, and Dumbledore said "You disgust me."

I think that would have dragged down the sympathy for Snape a little if they'd left that in.

 

[John Locke]

Yeah but they also it could bring down Dumbledore's character. I mean a beloved character saying that another beloved character disgusts them is strange or atleast when I reread it yesterday I found it strange.

 

[chamber-music]

What surprised me more was that Ron had no reaction to that whatsoever. It was his ex-girlfriend, after all.

not to menition what he did to his brother.

I would of avada kedavra his ass

 

[danoyse]

I thought it was interesting that we never (at least I don't think we did) see any of the kids using killing spells during the battle.

 

[04nbod]

The part they did leave out was that when Snape went to Dumbledore to beg him to protect Lily, he was only concerned about Lily's protection. When Dumbledore mentioned James and Harry, Snape reacted like he hadn't even thought about them, and Dumbledore said "You disgust me."

I think that would have dragged down the sympathy for Snape a little if they'd left that in.

It didn't phase me in the book I have to say. James was a *****e.

 

[Iceman]

Reaching a billion is hardly a landmark anymore. If Pirates 4 or Alice in Wonderland can make a billion, anything can. Or at least anything with Johnny Depp.

Yeah, quite a few films have made it to just over a billion now. Only Avatar & Titanic have gone well past it though (ROTK is 3rd with 1.1BN) & I think Potter is going to get at least 3rd place by a long way.

 

[danoyse]

It didn't phase me in the book I have to say. James was a *****e.

But he also didn't give a crap if Harry lived or died either. That just ain't right, I don't care how much of a jerk his father was.

 

[04nbod]

But he also didn't give a crap if Harry lived or died either. That just ain't right, I don't care how much of a jerk his father was.

Snape didn't know the kid though. I think if we are all honest in those situations your mind is going to be on your loved one first and foremost. The one year old you've never seen wouldn't be the big factor.

 

[chamber-music]

I like the fact he didn't care about Harry at first or James because he he bullied him in school the fact that he does later care for Harry shows he had grown as a character.

Gives Snape another layer of depth.

 

[danoyse]

Snape didn't know the kid though. I think if we are all honest in those situations your mind is going to be on your loved one first and foremost. The one year old you've never seen wouldn't be the big factor.

Anyone with a shred of decency would want to protect a child, regardless of whose it is (and even more so if it the son of the woman you loved). He was the one who took the prophecy to Voldemort so he would kill Harry in the first place, he didn't have an issue with telling Voldemort to go off and kill a child. He only started to care when he learned it was Lily's son, and even then he only wanted Lily protected.

It's what cost him Lily in the first place. She stopped being his friend because he was hanging around Death Eaters.