Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows - Part 2

[FVD]

One scene by Snape I was really looking looking forward to in PoA that never even got filmed was when he was complaining to Dumbledore about his suspicions on how Sirius got away towards the end, during Harry and Hermione's mission via Time Turner. A scene I thought would have been worth seeing in the movie IMHO.

 

[Thundercrack85]

It's been a while since I read or saw the material but did they ever explain why the three didn't just go to the chamber of secrets and get some more basilisk fangs / venom from the start?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

It's been a while since I read or saw the material but did they ever explain why the three didn't just go to the chamber of secrets and get some more basilisk fangs / venom from the start?

from the start of what? they were on the run when they figured out that tom riddles diary was a Horcrux, and the reason they returned to hogwarts was because they thought the diadem was there... and once they got there and found out about the diadem, they split up to find it and get the fang, and Ron seemed to have grabbed a few.

 

[misjuevos]

i just can't get past the fact that the main bad guy can't defeat some punk kid. voldemort never seemed like a real threat because of that fact, more like just a bully who keeps getting one-upped. i like the magic stuff but the rest mostly the story just doesn't do it for me. i would much rather see the grown up wizards fight each other. it's always more exciting when i see the older characters fight in the movies, the spells are just cooler. i know the story is about the kids at a school, but for me i could never get into it.

 

[Liam_H]

from the start of what? they were on the run when they figured out that tom riddles diary was a Horcrux, and the reason they returned to hogwarts was because they thought the diadem was there... and once they got there and found out about the diadem, they split up to find it and get the fang, and Ron seemed to have grabbed a few.

actually the diary was revealed to be a horcrux back in movie 6, i guess harry just never made the connection of grabbing a basilisk fang

i just can't get past the fact that the main bad guy can't defeat some punk kid. voldemort never seemed like a real threat because of that fact, more like just a bully who keeps getting one-upped. i like the magic stuff but the rest mostly the story just doesn't do it for me. i would much rather see the grown up wizards fight each other. it's always more exciting when i see the older characters fight in the movies, the spells are just cooler. i know the story is about the kids at a school, but for me i could never get into it.

I'm assuming based on your comments your referring to just the movies? Yes, you are right Harry is not as powerful as Voldemort or Dumbledore. Harry basically always escapes because of some existing factor that is introduced or he gets lucky.

 

[chamber-music]

Dumbledore was the only one as powerful as Voldemort if I remember correctly anyway. Unless some else got their hands on the elder wand

 

[sideburnking]

The resurrection stone thing was weird. Like I was thinking maybe he would bring back Dobby as a last act or something like that but it really ends up being pointless. In fact why even call it a resurrection stone if it does not resurrection ?

The thing about it is, it partially does so, but it is an unnatural thing. In the Tale of the Three Brothers, the brother who got the stone used it for a purely selfish reason, to bring back the one he loved so he could have her again, but that didn't work because she didn't belong to the world of the living anymore. In contrast, Harry used it simply because he knew he was about to die, and wanted a little reassurance about it from people who had died. Thus, it served its purpose, bringing back his loved ones who had died just long enough for them to help ease his mind about the whole thing and confront Voldemort with his head held high.

 

[chamber-music]

Just where do you go from here? (as far as the main actors)

Dan is doing broadway and making (another) name for himself. I know Emma is going to college, so she doesn't plan on acting anymore? I do hear that Rupert is still continuing work in films.

Most young actors in this type of position just sort of peak from there. Never saw much of Mark Hamill or Hayden after Star Wars.

Dan has got his Hammer ghost story movie remake The Woman In Black coming out later this year, Emma has The Perks Of Being A Wallflower coming out and Rupert is continuing acting he was pretty good in comedy hitman movie Wild Target last year.

Haha, that's cool.

I think it's a cultural thing. In America the biggest accolade for an actor is to win an Oscar for being on the silver screen. In England it's getting knighted for theater work, especially Shakespeare.

Actors in the Britain like doing theatre because its instant gratification as the audience is right in front of them instead of doing a movie and then 8 months later hearing if they did a good job or not.

Plus I think actors think they can learn alot more from live theatre acting than film acting.

This is sweet...Tom Felton, Rupert Grint, and Matthew Lewis saw Dan on Broadway last weekend when they were here for the NY premiere:

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some pics from backstage after the show

 

[Drizzle]

I love that Rupert is wearing a shirt with Dan's face on it.

Anyone want to rank the movies?

1. Deathly Hallows - Both parts, as it really is just one long movie. If I really had to choose, I'd rank Part 2 over Part 1. 10/10
2. Prisoner of Azkaban - Cinematically, this really got the series running. 9.5/10
3. Half-Blood Prince - Brilliant, even though it's still missing some key stuff from the book. 9/10
4. Goblet of Fire - I've always had a soft spot for this one. It's a lot of fun to watch. 9/10
5. Order of the Phoenix - Could have been a bit longer. 8.5/10
6. Chamber of Secrets - They could have made this shorter. I liked that they included so much from the book, but this one did drag on a lot. 8/10
7. Sorcerer's Stone - A great introduction, but looking back on it now, there has been so much improvement among the actors since the first film. The other films besides COS almost make this one look too childish. 7.5/10

 

[Iceman]

i just can't get past the fact that the main bad guy can't defeat some punk kid. voldemort never seemed like a real threat because of that fact, more like just a bully who keeps getting one-upped. i like the magic stuff but the rest mostly the story just doesn't do it for me. i would much rather see the grown up wizards fight each other. it's always more exciting when i see the older characters fight in the movies, the spells are just cooler. i know the story is about the kids at a school, but for me i could never get into it.

I would have liked the final part of the Harry Vs Voldemort battle to be more impressive than Dumbledore Vs Voldemort from OotP. Harry is the greatest wizard who ever lived so I don't think it's that much of a stretch that once he gets all these other assets that he should be close to Dumbledore even at the age of what 18? Agreed on the adult wizards fighting. When McGonagall got involved, that was one of the most awesome parts of the film

 

[Iceman]

Anyone want to rank the movies?

Yep and using Drizzle’s format above:

1. Deathly Hallows - If I have to separate them then I'd have to think a bit more and maybe the individual rating might be lower. Love both parts though, the 1st almost as much as the 2nd. It's difficult to end a series of films and I think the important final scenes were very satisfactory. Give an extra 20 seconds or so to maybe 20 of the secondary characters (adult staff, minor students & the coolest bad guys like Lucius Malfoy) and throw in the kitchen sink on the final battle and you would have a 10/10. 9.4/10
2. Prisoner of Azkaban - This has always been my favourite HP film. It was the only individual HP film that was getting anywhere near my top film list before DH. Really got me into the series. 9.2/10
3. Order of the Phoenix - Enjoyed this a lot. Best display of magic (Dumbledore Vs Voldemort) by quite a long way up to that point. 8.6/10
4. Half-Blood Prince - Loved the young Voldemort! 8.4/10
5. Goblet of Fire - After Azkaban which really got me in to the series I was slightly disappointed with GoF. After rewatching though it is still a very good film. 8/10
6. Chamber of Secrets - I also really like this one. Equal with GoF at least, on another day I might have ranked it above. 8/10
7. Sorcerer's Stone - Easily my least favourite. The kids were just a bit too young and not yet able to act well enough (with the exception of Hermione who was a star) to think that anything important was happening. Still the production standards were great and the adult characters were very good. 7/10

When this came out at the same time as LOTR (which is my favourite film series) I couldn't believe that people were comparing FOTR & S'S. Now that the HP series is done I can say it is certainly worthy of comparison and ranks alongside LOTR & Star Wars (originals) right at the top for me. Massive congrats to JK Rowling and everyone involved in this excellent set of films.

 

[Dwarf Slayer]

I would have liked the final part of the Harry Vs Voldemort battle to be more impressive than Dumbledore Vs Voldemort from OotP. Harry is the greatest wizard who ever lived so I don't think it's that much of a stretch that once he gets all these other assets that he should be close to Dumbledore even at the age of what 18? Agreed on the adult wizards fighting. When McGonagall got involved, that was one of the most awesome parts of the film

Harry is not the greatest wizard to ever live, not even close. All of his victories have either been from dumb luck or some kind of intervention. Dumbledore is the greatest wizard to ever live. The only one who even comes close to matching Dumbledore's power is Voldemort. Harry is the equivalent of a high school senior, while Dumbledore is Steven Hawking.

 

[ALP]

Harry is not the greatest wizard to ever live, not even close. All of his victories have either been from dumb luck or some kind of intervention. Dumbledore is the greatest wizard to ever live. The only one who even comes close to matching Dumbledore's power is Voldemort. Harry is the equivalent of a high school senior, while Dumbledore is Steven Hawking.

And who would you want on your team while playing football or leading a duel to the death...

 

[danoyse]

It's all good!

But yes It was

In Part 1- the tale of the three brothers.

I don't think It was ever explained in the books either - at least

Spoiler

Harry Being a realitive to the Pevrell's that is...

I think, it's been a while since I've read them.

It was actually very quickly explained at the end of the book that [blackout]Harry was a descendant of one of Pevrell brothers. He figured it out when they were speaking to Dumbledore's portrait in his office after the battle. That's why they saw his grave in Godric's Hollow when they were visiting Harry's parents' graves.[/blackout]

The only thing they really left out is that Harry used that wand to fix his own before he got rid of it. Guess he got a new one instead.

 

[Iceman]

Harry is not the greatest wizard to ever live, not even close. All of his victories have either been from dumb luck or some kind of intervention. Dumbledore is the greatest wizard to ever live. The only one who even comes close to matching Dumbledore's power is Voldemort. Harry is the equivalent of a high school senior, while Dumbledore is Steven Hawking.

Haha. That's cool, I like those two being the big guns. Where does that greatest ever phrase come from? (I haven't read the books yet)

 

[Dwarf Slayer]

And who would you want on your team while playing football or leading a duel to the death...

In leading a duel to the death, I'd want the guy was able to defeat the supposedly undefeatable wand. AKA Dumbledore.

 

[Drizzle]

Early reports from BoxOfficeMojo show a $168 million opening. The opening weekend record now belongs to Harry Potter. Wasn't too hard to predict.

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/

 

[Iceman]

Big numbers internationally too. Should make well over a $BN worldwide.

 

[GregComicFan]

Did anybody else really like this:

When Nevell introduced Harry to all the students back at Hogwarts, inside the dorm room... Harry pops up on screen and they played John William's theme "Harry's Wonderous World" from the Sorceror's Stone soundtrack?

That was probably my favorite scene of the movie. I'm a sucker for good scores and character themes. It was the first time in the movie versions that I fully saw Harry as the hero... just cause it was like "Yeah! Harry's back! Here's his theme song!"... it made him look like the beloved high school football team quarterback.

 

[ALP]

Reaching a billion is hardly a landmark anymore. If Pirates 4 or Alice in Wonderland can make a billion, anything can. Or at least anything with Johnny Depp.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Saw it last night. I really, really enjoyed the film. Rickman absolutely nailed the Prince's Tale scenes. Completely, he was spot on for how I wanted those to play out. I actually heard people crying in my theatre during those scenes.

Overall, it was just a very good film. The only thing that bugged me a bit was the extended fight between Harry and Voldermort at the end. I mean...it's just a bit silly. It's freakin VOLDERMORT here. Harry wouldn't be able to last longer then a minute against him in a real duel. I understand why they did it. It's a movie, they wanted to amp up the action and draw out the suspense, but it was just a bit silly, especially when Voldermort was kicking him and punching him. Too much of the old villain cliche "I'm going to play with my food before I eat it." Especially since he killed Harry right away in the forest and didn't take time to beat the crud out of him for good measure.

Still, it's a minor complaint, and overall, the movie was amazing.

 

[Sundancer]

I kept waiting for Grawp to show up in the battle when I saw giants. Didn't he fight in the book?

 

[Angel_Faerie]

Yes he did. He was the only giant that didn't join Voldemort.

 

[redhawk23]

For those who discount voldemort's power because he loses to "some punk kid" you have to remember that by the final fight, Vodemort is 6/7 dead. The horcruxes that he made as a security measure were ultimately his undoing.

Also his own actions set in motion the chain of events that led to his own demise. By attacking the infant Harry he "marked him as his equal." Harry may technically not have been as powerful as Vodemort or Dumbledore or any number of other powerful wizards. However he was the only one put in a position, the only one who's lifetime of circumstances gave him the ability to defeat Voldemort. And its more than just his own personal abilities. When Voldemort marked Harry as his equal, he marked him as a rallying flag around which Voldemort's enemies could gather. Because of Voldemort's actions people believed in Harry and were willing to help him, to lay down their lives to protect him.

 

[chaseter]

My brother and I argued about that. He also hasn't read the books, and he thought I was wrong about that, LOL!

I am personally glad I just saw the movies first without reading the books. SS was my first exposure to the series, and before I made the choice that I wanted to read them, I had seen 5 movies. So, I just decided to wait it all out. I am also glad I avoided the major spoilers on DH from book release to seeing the movie. It made the movie more fun for me, since I got to theorize stuff. I will read them now, though. I wanted to finish the film series before starting them.

It also mentions in the books how most invis cloaks wear out overtime as the enchantments around them slowly go away. Harry's cloak oddly has been passed down as it mentions in the books and the enchantments have never worn out. So, the trio gathered that his cloak was special.