The Dark Knight Harvey Dent/Two-Face Thread.

[Two-Face]

Spoiler

If you check IBINHD poster "Paid for by friends of Harvey Dent" I'm thinking that was paid in by Bruce Wayne

He's friends with Harvey?

 

[Carmine Falcone]

I have to wonder, is this movie going to even have good time with Dents character other than him being there to take down the criminals, and meeting on rooftops with Gordon and Batman. Will he be more fleshed out so his spiral into madness makes sense and makes you feel for him?

It does sound like it has many characters and relationships between them to develop. I'm curious to see how they'll wrap it up into one two-hour blockbuster. Ofcourse..I wouldn't mind seeing a 3 hour Batman movie. But length may scare people away (altough POTC3 makes one think otherwise)

 

[The Caped Knight]

BATMAN: Let the law handle it.
TWO-FACE: The law!? Here's the only law! The law of averages! The great equalizer!

 

[Figs]

It does sound like it has many characters and relationships between them to develop. I'm curious to see how they'll wrap it up into one two-hour blockbuster. I wouldn't mind seeing a 3 hour Batman movie....

I can only dream. A 3 hour Batman movie could have enough of everthing. Action, fighting, lots of detective work. Plenty of screen time for supporting cast as well. I loved Nolans' take on the Scarecrow, even with the small screen time he had. With a 3 hour movie he could have had a few more scenes that would have just made it that much better.

 

[itsthebatman]

I haven't read "Eye Of The Beholder", but judging from what you've told me, Dent seems to be going to far there. I'd like to think that, despite any flaws or internal darkness, Harvey Dent is ultimately a good person. If he is already a killer, or someone who WOULD kill, before the transformation, then the tragedy is ultimately lost.

It's definitely worth reading, it's Batman Annual #14, and for anyone who likes TLH, it's required reading as it heavily influenced that story. While it does go too far in some aspects (I am also not fond of the idea that Harvey kills while still Harvey), it does explore his relationship with his father better than anything else I've read.

A complete 360 degree turn after a bit of acid is too black and white. So yeah, make him troubled.

Does anybody think he should be friends with Bruce Wayne? Like he was in TAS. I personally think not. I'm thinking more along the lines of TLH.

I think not. Batman and Dent should be colleagues, but Bruce Wayne and Harvey shouldn't be. It causes that conflict that makes things so darn interesting. I love that scene in TLH where Harvey is openly contemptuous of Wayne when he arrives at the manor and talks to Alfred (can't remember the exact context right now), and after all, he DID prosecute Wayne. Bruce should have few friends (but many ladies!).

 

[Victarion]

^Dont' forget, Bruce also contributed to his campaign there. I wonder if he had any second thoughts, being that a man with potential ties to Falcone contributed to his campaign. This was never mentioned in the story, but I still wonder...

Speaking of which, I wonder if that will be explored, bruce's father having connections to the underworld through something as simple as helping a mobster's wounded son.

 

[project13]

I think that Dent in TDK should act like his B:TAS countpart. I like him acting like "Big Bad Harv".

 

[strikezone89]

manipS?

 

[Eagle_23]

I think it would be pretty cool if Harvey Dent is portrayed as a good guy, who after his scarring, gets fed up with the legal system and becomes a vigilante- although unlike Batman, he carries out the executions. His good side would be the fact that he is against criminals- the bad side would be that he becomes a criminal by murdering others. Batman becomes his enemy because Bats tries to prevent him from killing.

Exactly how I'm hoping he'll be portrayed, any other way and I'd truly be dissapointed. Plus like in TLH and DV, I hope that they share that certain connection where every once in a while Bats gets the Harvey side to come out once in a while vs's the Two-Face side. Basically he should be split, half of him is fed up and thus he becomes a bada$$, though deep down there's still a little of the old Harvey.

 

[Victarion]

What's the consensus here on Two-Face having thugs? Nothing like BF, mind you. If he did have thugs, I was thinking there would be an "initiation" ritual to go through, where one side of their face is maimed, or something.

On the other hand, Harvey Dent's "monster" Two-Face could be utilized in BB3 or even the end of TDK as a way of Bruce seeing what he could become, if he allowed his "monster" to consume him. This would have Two-Face working without thugs, operating similar to Bats.

 

[Eagle_23]

I'd rather see him operate without thugs.... Makes things more personal in my opinion....

 

[Dvhyzs]

I'd rather see him operate without thugs.... Makes things more personal in my opinion....

If he just like dent in TLH i will never be more happy.

 

[Figs]

I'd rather see him operate without thugs.... Makes things more personal in my opinion....

I agree! If he had thugs, I'm sure Nolan wouldn't make it as cheesy or campy as Schumacher. I just would rather see Two-Face on his own.

 

[Victarion]

Indeed...a vigilante who takes things a step further.

 

[Nepenthes]

Dent is a natural charmer who is used to working with people. And he's too ambitious to go it alone. He'd have a loyal crew.

 

[Keyser Soze]

manipS?

This manip by Lucius Cipher is my favourite:

 

[Two-Face]

That's great manip

 

[CFE]

I agree. Translate Loeb and Sale's take on the character and you've got absolute GOLD...

CFE