Yes, yes I know ...
Crook said:
He's always looked like that.
I know that's how he always has looked on the comic page. And if I wanted to see him looking like that I would have flipped open a comic. But in terms of how grounded everything else Nolan had done with the movie, visually, and story structure wise ... it didn't fit to me. It was too over the top.
Crook said:
Unless you hate his look in the comics as well, I can't possibly see why it'd be a problem here.
Me appreciating his look in the comics has absolutely nothing to do with my opinion of his look in the movie. Seperate mediums there, bro. In a cartoon or comic things can be flayboyant and over the top visually with out losing suspension of disbelief. In a movie where you're in a real world setting, with real people potraying these characters, you can't just do that at every turn. I had a problem with it, not to say it was poorly designed or didn't look cool, I just don't think it fit the context of everything else at all. I thought it would have been much more beliebale and relatable if we saw something ala Harry Osborn in Spider-Man 3, but alittle more gruesome. Instead the look just went over the top. And it didn't sit well with me. And visually I don't think it blended into the rest of the movie at all. The design itself was cool. But when you put it in the frame and put it next to all the other actors, it looked bad to me.
Crook said:
Only all the more of an indication that the majority do not care about realism as long as the material and visuals are handled well.
The visuals had been handeled well up until that point, and as Nolan's films have shown, visuals come second on the importance scale when comes to handling something well. Glits and glamore never outweighs substance. And the majority says, Nolan's Batman movies are the best ... so glad none of that is in question.
Crook said:
Death aside, Nolan nailed everything down pat.
No one was even arguing his character here. His character and psychological profile was better and more believeable than that of the source material. No corny robbing the 2nd bank of Gotham, on the 2nd anniversary of the day Batman captured him type crap. This was a realistic tragic figure, who was believable in spirit thanks to Aaron's acting and Jonah's script, and death included was the best part of this character. He wasn't just evil for the sake of being evil. He wanted revenge, and didn't even want to continue living seeing as how his future family had been stripped from, as well as his face. Harvey Two Face actually wanting to live after the events isn't as intelligent, tragic, realistic, and well thought out as the character Nolan gave us. My only wish is that intelligence in his story arc of the character, would have led to a more toned down, albeit believable Two Face scarring.
Crook said:
I'm actually defending Nolan against you here, haha. Quite a role reversal.
I'm not really putting down anything.
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just a small correction so people dont get confused.
