The Dark Knight Harvey Dent/Two Face Thread

[Ziggyman]

I'm pretty sure he is alive...Question is though...How did they get him out of the building...And how long his disfigurement will last as a secret.

When Batman left that building at the end...Didn't all the cops chase after him...If so...This will allow Gordon and others to get Harvey out of there undetected...Right?

 

[Keyser Soze]

I'm pretty sure he is alive...Question is though...How did they get him out of the building...And how long his disfigurement will last as a secret.

When Batman left that building at the end...Didn't all the cops chase after him...If so...This will allow Gordon and others to get Harvey out of there undetected...Right?

Now I'm getting the image of Gordon and his son hoisting Harvey into their trunk.

 

[Two_Face]

Lol, I could see Oldman dragging the body away, taking him to Arkham, and having him admitted underwraps. With him being Commissioner now he could have that type of thing done.

 

[tuffenoughtoroc]

I think Two-Face is better off dead. As much as I loved the character, his ending was a perfect balance of tragedy and fairness. I personally don't want to see him in a third film.

 

[Two_Face]

Man, Two-Face needs more time in the media. We didn't get him in "The Batman" and he didn't have a lot of episodes in TAS. Him being in a third movie wouldn't hurt anything.

 

[Awesomeguy30]

Lets all go see this masterpiece of The Dark Knight ONE MORE TIME so we can make this monster even bigger!

 

[Two_Face]

I would but don't have the money at the moment so you guy's go ahead and make this phenomenon bigger than it already is!

 

[DACrowe]

I think the mainstream didn't give a flying **** about Two-Face before this film. The only good adaptation of him in the mainstream before now was TAS, which I actually think was one of the weaker adaptations that show did, still (DON'T HIT ME!). Other than that he wasn't in the TV show, any of the cartoons and his appearance in Batman Forever was forgettable as a one-note Joker-wannabe who was Riddler's sidekick.

Such an amazing character in the comics (especially in TLH/DV), yet the mainstream knew very little about. He is well known now. Yeah, Joker is the show they got to see but most will remember Harvey Dent as a tragic figure and Two-Face's importance in the movie's end to know he was a great villain, then.

 

[krisl]

I thought Eckhart did a great job but I felt the introduction of Two-Face was rushed and the character could have easily survived into a third film. Much like EPIII, his turn to madness seemed a tad enforced. Despite some grim things happening to him too it still seemed implausible and like EPIII seeing a slightly "bad" side to him previously still didn't help convince. I think with more time it would have been great to see the actual character of Two-Face evolve.I also think it's a bit of waste to set up a relationship with Maroni yet choose to give him his scars by accident so to speak due to an explosion. That didn't make much sense to me. If they'd followed the acid in face route (and less severe injuries) it might have also been a bit more believable to have him walking around and talking, a real stretch as it sits considering how serious his burns are.

 

[TNC9852002]

I think the idea of someone throwing acid around in someone's face is LESS believable if you ask me.

-TNC

 

[adamwe]

I think the idea of someone throwing acid around in someone's face is LESS believable if you ask me.

-TNC

I agree. If it eat through his jaw and around his eye what prevents it from going down his throat (see Commissioner Loeb) or destroying his eye completely.

 

[TNC9852002]

Do we know Two Face's total body count in the movie, yet? Who were the "two of them cops"?

-Wuertz
-Maroni
-Maroni's driver
-Maroni's bodyguard
-????
-????

-TNC

 

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[Bat-Mite]

Do we know Two Face's total body count in the movie, yet? Who were the "two of them cops"?

-Wuertz
-Maroni
-Maroni's driver
-Maroni's bodyguard
-????
-????

-TNC

Wuertz was a cop, so he was one of the two. The only other explanation I can think for the other one was the cop that the Joker shot. He was in Harvey's room (and they didn't know the Joker was actually present at the hospital), so I guess they assumed Harvey killed him. Though how they'd know the cop was in his room from all that rubble is beyond me.

 

[DACrowe]

I'm gonna' guess they might think Ramirez is dead as she is not responding to calls and messages and Gordon knew Dent already thought she was dirty from the beginning.

She'll turn up alive. I bet in BB3 when they talk about the "crimes" Batman committed and eulogize Dent (which I'm sure will happen) they'll only mention Wurtez and Maroni/his driver (maybe). They'll say Harvey died in the hospital explosion. The other number will just have to be a mystery.

 

[Ziggyman]

Then people will be asking...Why the hell was Harv in the hospital...I think they should just say that he was killed by The Joker...No explanation needed...

 

[Jokers_Wild]

Do we know Two Face's total body count in the movie, yet? Who were the "two of them cops"?

-Wuertz
-Maroni
-Maroni's driver
-Maroni's bodyguard
-????
-????

-TNC

This will never be cleared up unless the next movie explains it, or Jonah Nolan breaks it down in an interview. We know that *Wuertz (one of the cops), *Maroni, *Maroni's driver, *Maroni's bodyguard (some disagree that Two-Face could've killed him that fast) make four.

But the other cop could be A LOT of people depending on whose interpretation you read. Some say it's the cop(s) at the hospital watching Dent, others say Dent himself (since he worked in IA), and still others say Gordon at the time was assuming it was Ramirez (since may be she was missing, knocked out or tied up by Two-Face)...there might be more too.

 

[Jokers_Wild]

She'll turn up alive. I bet in BB3 when they talk about the "crimes" Batman committed and eulogize Dent (which I'm sure will happen) they'll only mention Wurtez and Maroni/his driver (maybe). They'll say Harvey died in the hospital explosion. The other number will just have to be a mystery.

After watching TDK again last night, I noticed the news banner on the TV after the hosptial explosion, stated that Harvey Dent was evacuated safely. So even at the point, the police were already lying and spreading disinformation to the public.

 

[johnlennon696]

How did Harvey escape from the hospital? When he flipped the coin and 'let' The Joker live, The Joker leaves the room, washes his hands and then blows it up. Did they come to an agreemant or did he jump out the window?

 

[jorek]

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[Gallagher]

Those last little tidbits of 'inside information' are from speculation over at IGN and various other sites.

Please, stop pretending to be important because, and listen carefully because this is vital to your survival, you are not.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I'm gonna' guess they might think Ramirez is dead as she is not responding to calls and messages

Yeah, I tried to text her...Nothing.

 

[da3dl3us]

I'm sure this has been discussed, so I'll apologize if this is redundant.

I've watched the movie 4 times now, and love it more every time. But the one thing that stuck out the fourth time is Dent becoming the Two Face psyche.

Now, with Harvey losing his fiance and half his face blown to hell, I completely understand his need for revenge.

But other than the fact he flips a two sided coin for fun, why did he post scar feel compelled to abide by the fate of the coin flip in the context of this movie?

In the comics and TAS, it's clearly shown Harvey has a sad, abusive past (the fixed coin flipping game his father played on him as a means to beat him), and has dissociative identity disorder or possible schizophrenia. In the movie, there wasn't much of hint of that. Thus the scar traumatized him and unleashed his repressed psychological pathologies, creating the coin flip as his compulsion to make evil/good decisions.

I only wished in the movie, they showed Harvey maybe taking some unknown prescription pills, or talking about his father being abusive and the coin the only thing his father left him (a la Batman Annual #14)

 

[scatterax]

I'm sure this has been discussed, so I'll apologize if this is redundant.

I've watched the movie 4 times now, and love it more every time. But the one thing that stuck out the fourth time is Dent becoming the Two Face psyche.

Now, with Harvey losing his fiance and half his face blown to hell, I completely understand his need for revenge.

But other than the fact he flips a two sided coin for fun, why did he post scar feel compelled to abide by the fate of the coin flip in the context of this movie?

In the comics and TAS, it's clearly shown Harvey has a sad, abusive past (the fixed coin flipping game his father played on him as a means to beat him), and has dissociative identity disorder or possible schizophrenia. In the movie, there wasn't much of hint of that. Thus the scar traumatized him and unleashed his repressed psychological pathologies, creating the coin flip as his compulsion to make evil/good decisions.

I only wished in the movie, they showed Harvey maybe taking some unknown prescription pills, or talking about his father being abusive and the coin the only thing his father left him (a la Batman Annual #14)

in the movie the coin dosn't have anything to do a split personality. the coin flipping is mostly explained when he gives a speach on how chance is the only thing thats fair is the world. its his version of justice, or atleast that was my take.

 

[nolan's roll'n]

Yeah, I tried to text her...Nothing.

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