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Comics Has anybody changed their mind about the "Iron Spidey" suit?

What's your opinion on the red & gold Spider-Man costume?

  • Hated it then, hate it now

  • Liked it then, like it now

  • Hated it at first, but it's started to grow on me

  • Liked it at first, but the novlety wore off


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PWN3R RANGER said:
The Amazing Tony Stark and Spiderman.


:eek:

Uh huh. And you realize that it's a story, right? That it's a nice set up for Peter Parker to eventually turn on Stark once he finds out that Tony has been playing things behind the scenes?

And that Peter will turn on Stark and side with the Anti-registration crew.

But, right, Peter Parker isn't allowed to show gratitude to a man who gave him a place to live, a new costume, and a new job. Now Peter doesn't have to live in crap and worry about bills while balancing Spider-Man.

But Peter is his sidekick because fans can't take the fact that Peter is maybe really appreciative of the simple fact someone gave him so much. Not just for him but his family?

A billionaire asks you to move into his tower with your family, he's giving you new clothes, and a kick ass new job. You're going to tell him to shove it up his ass? Tell him to screw himself? That you're an everyman who has to struggle because the people surrounding you tell you that's what you have to do?

Trust me. In real life, if that happened to anyone on these boards you'd be calling that billionaire "boss" in two seconds.
 
SpideyInATree said:
Trust me. In real life, if that happened to anyone on these boards you'd be calling that billionaire "boss" in two seconds.

good point (as always) SIAT
 
They are NOT Partners... They're not lovers... so that leaves Boss and Lackey... And Who's the BOSS in this relationship??? Tony... so If tony's the boss Pete's the lackey... And when talking about Spuerheroes the Lackey is known as??? Anyone? anyone? No? A Lackey in Suprehero terms would be a... Sidekick... Ergo, Spidey is a sidekick...
 
Doc_OCK_4MUGEN said:
They are NOT Partners... They're not lovers... so that leaves Boss and Lackey... And Who's the BOSS in this relationship??? Tony... so If tony's the boss Pete's the lackey... And when talking about Spuerheroes the Lackey is known as??? Anyone? anyone? No? A Lackey in Suprehero terms would be a... Sidekick... Ergo, Spidey is a sidekick...

thats the worst reasoning i've ever heard. so (assuming ur not unemployed or self-employed) u consider urself a lackey to ur boss at work?? how sad
 
The correct terms would be Boss and Subordinate, yet Peter's Exaggerated ass kissing and servile attitude towards Tony is what made me call him a Lackey...
And no I'm not a lackey... I don't devote myself to please my boss's every whim, like Parker... I have a shred of dignity... I wish I was self employed, or to actually direct for once... but enough about me...
Still That doesn't change the fact that Peter IS a sidekick... Lives on Tony's place, wears whatever Toney tells him to, does what Tony tells him,yup still signs of being a sidekick...
 
AND if you could get some respect in a community that consisted of the likes of Captain America and Thor, a WWII hero and a God, you wouldn't take the opportunity? OR if you were a whiz-kid and could get endless funding for scientific research?
 
To anwser your last 3 posts:
If it looks like the Abomination that is the Iron Spider suit then HELL NO!
If I don't have a roof for my family I'd swallow My pride for a moment...
I'd try to earn their trust through effort, not by being Ironman's sidekick...
Regarding the scientific research, I'd swallow my pride for a moment, BUT I wouldn't worship Ironman like Spider-tool does...
 
i just dont get the part where is was like "lets take our franchise character and make him the b*tch of our *****ty version of batman"
 
RAMORE said:
they both have money and cool toys but the similarties end there completely diff. characters.

i know after that they are completly different

i just think that is stupid
 
ZachToTheFuture said:
the principle of the characters are the same

some rich guy wants to be a super hero

so i hate them both for it

(batman and iron man)

But one did it for revenge and the other decided he had a responsibility seeing as he built his suit to keep him alive. It's not like... doc strange who lost the use of his hands (as a surgeon at least) and so just happened to have enough money and vanity to go and seek out some magic guy to make his life worthwhile again.
 
^whoa was that off topic. i don't get the whole lacky thing. i havnt seen it. when peter was employed formally by tony as part of the company he did one job for him - went to washington. thats it. now come civil war he was asked to do something and was CONVINCED to do so. it wasnt like "yes sir, ok sir, of course sir..."
 
It is unreasonable having some pride and a shred of dignity?
So what's unbelievable of rejecting a metallic red and gold dress that makes you look like a weird spider-gimp?
I'd accept the home for my family because if they need it, then so be it I'd become te sidekick...
So it is unbelievable trying to get the respect of a WWII Hero and a Norse God through hard effort... I'd rather not have their respect if having it means become a sidekick... But if in me becoming a sidekick can cure aids, cancer, and the common cold, then Gosh golly! Gee Whillikers Batman! I'm teh sidekick...

why is it so unbelievable???
I'm guessing you'd be the sidekick whitout having a second thought...
 
^ur the gimp: don't get personal, i was just expressing an opinion. whether i'd be a side-kick is between me and my middle-aged iron-clad mystery man. and how can u say the red and gold makes him look like a gimp when before he was wearing red and blue spandex?? that screams sexual degenerate, surely?
 
Doc_OCK_4MUGEN said:
It is unreasonable having some pride and a shred of dignity?
So what's unbelievable of rejecting a metallic red and gold dress that makes you look like a weird spider-gimp?
I'd accept the home for my family because if they need it, then so be it I'd become te sidekick...
So it is unbelievable trying to get the respect of a WWII Hero and a Norse God through hard effort... I'd rather not have their respect if having it means become a sidekick... But if in me becoming a sidekick can cure aids, cancer, and the common cold, then Gosh golly! Gee Whillikers Batman! I'm teh sidekick...

why is it so unbelievable???
I'm guessing you'd be the sidekick whitout having a second thought...

*Sigh* I was hoping not to get into all this "Spiderman is Ironmans sidekick* thing. Stark provided Peter with a new and "improved" suit, that does not constitue being his sidekick. He did it for him as a fellow Avenger and he wanted to help him (after all the guy had just come back from being dead and they had distroyed his old suits). Stark is also responsible for providing the Avengers with their base, technology, and their Plane, does that make the Avengers Tony's sidekicks?

As for Peter working for Tony, I have no problems with that because it seems to be expanding his horizon. Peter could learn a few things from Stark, and dont forget Cap was also teaching Peter some new things.

Peter is his own man and does not follow Tony blindly.
 
I'm not getting it personal... MyPokerShirt... My detailed explanation was to the poster who said that MY post was unbelievable.. If I were a Superhero I'd try not to wear spandex... I'm getting tired of it already... Yes I've worn spandex before... and I don't like it much... The tentacles kinda remind me of the weird japanese porn movies, that's why I called the IS suit the weird Spider-gimp suit... I used to call it Bling Scarlet Spider suit...


The original avengers weren't as gullible as pete... But Stark has the cash... so he kinda had to IF they wanted to be respectable...
Well if Tony is feeling so Generous why haven't we seen the Captain American Iron, Wolvironine, Iron Cage, Spider-ironwoman, or Iron Sentry? They would all reject Tony's suit in a flash... Remember Tony was the one who went cuckoo and tried to destroy everything and everyone who was weaqring Stark Suits, or knockoffs...
 
I maintain that if Tony regarded Peter as anything other than a lackey-
1-he would've asked for his input in designing the suit.
2-he would've asked him if he even WANTED a new costume.
3-he would've asked for his input before "upgrading" it.
And finally,
4-he wouldn't have duped him on the whole point of their going to Washington.
Those are the types of things that you do when someone is beneath you.
 
chris you've posted some nice points defending the sideckick arguement...
 
I'd like to not see it that way, but facts are facts. When Cyclops made the decision to put the X-Men back in their colorful uniforms, it was a command decision that he, as team leader & school headmaster, had the prerogative to make. And it applied to everybody including himself. Iron Man is not the leader of the Avengers & to touch on what you said, I don't see him making suits for anyone else. The defenders of this monstrosity keep saying that Tony has this great respect for Peter & sees him as a kindred spirit and all this other crap, but that's not what his behavior shows.
 
Doc_OCK_4MUGEN said:
They are NOT Partners... They're not lovers... so that leaves Boss and Lackey... And Who's the BOSS in this relationship??? Tony... so If tony's the boss Pete's the lackey... And when talking about Spuerheroes the Lackey is known as??? Anyone? anyone? No? A Lackey in Suprehero terms would be a... Sidekick... Ergo, Spidey is a sidekick...

Um. Last time I checked in the workplace that it wasn't "Boss and Lackey". It's usually Supervisor or Employee. Or Boss and Employee.

Yes, I know it's upsetting that Peter is working for Tony Stark and not out there working solo and doing his own scientific work and designing his own suit, and all that fun stuff.

But it DOESN'T MAKE PETER TONY'S SIDEKICK!!
 
Chris Wallace said:
I maintain that if Tony regarded Peter as anything other than a lackey-
1-he would've asked for his input in designing the suit.
2-he would've asked him if he even WANTED a new costume.
3-he would've asked for his input before "upgrading" it.
And finally,
4-he wouldn't have duped him on the whole point of their going to Washington.
Those are the types of things that you do when someone is beneath you.

1. I'm sure Tony would have consulted him on the designs. But I seem to remember that everyone thought Peter was dead, and he came back to life. I think Tony wanted Peter to spend time with his family and recover from his ordeal instead of having him thinking about improvements to his costume.

2. Why would he ask him? Is Spider-Man not part of the Avengers now? He's part of a team now and the leader, money man, of the team feels that a guy running around in the same PJ's he's been wearing since he was 15 might be a little unsafe in the battles they might face. Peter isn't just going to be battling The Vulture and Green Goblin. As an Avenger he'll be fighting much BIGGER threats on a more regular basis.

3. Isn't this basically the same point as the first one? :confused:

4. He did that because Tony wants Peter to be on his side during this Superhero Registration thing. Yes, it was a bastard thing to do but he's not doing it because he thinks Peter is beneath him. Sheesh.

And to add. These things would automatically make Peter Parker a sidekick? :confused:

Even if they were straight up pure fact, and not just an opinion, it still wouldn't constitute that Peter is a "lackey" or a "sidekick". It's called being part of a team! And Tony, as a teammate, wanted to help Spider-Man out and give him something. If anything Tony and Peter could be considered.... :eek: ... FRIENDS!!! Wow. Imagine that.

But, yeah, if I were a traditional Spider-Man fan who expects Spidey to be like the strongest hero in the Marvel Universe and always be right and never make mistakes....yeah, I'd probably consider Peter Tony's sidekick.

But I'm not. I'm looking at the actual story. Aunt May's house burnt down, Peter needed a new apartment...hey, look, I'm in the Avengers now and Tony Stark is offering me and my family to live here? SWEET!! Oh look, he designed me a new suit to help better protect me instead of wearing a regular spandex suit where I could easily be killed. Cool, thanks Tony. Oh, look Tony just gave me a job as his assisstant and now I don't have to worry about my identity being compromised or going out to get a new teaching job, etc. Thanks for the job, Tony.

But suddenly that makes his a sidekick. So, anytime someone does something nice for you or gets you out of a serious jam...that means you become a persons sidekick and lackey? Whew...some of you guys have a warped way of looking at things.

Or you're just pissed off Spider-Man fans, and I think it's the latter. :o
 
Doc_OCK_4MUGEN said:
The original avengers weren't as gullible as pete... But Stark has the cash... so he kinda had to IF they wanted to be respectable...
Well if Tony is feeling so Generous why haven't we seen the Captain American Iron, Wolvironine, Iron Cage, Spider-ironwoman, or Iron Sentry? They would all reject Tony's suit in a flash... Remember Tony was the one who went cuckoo and tried to destroy everything and everyone who was weaqring Stark Suits, or knockoffs...

1) Peter makes his own costume, while the others do not.

2) Peter had just come back to life and he has been busy with all the tests they had to carry out on him (not to mention the time he spent with his family)

3) Tony has kind of been getting closer and closer to Peter more than anyone else in the Avengers group (except maybe for Cap who go back a long way)

4) Tony sees Peter as a kindred spirit and thought he would appreciate the gatchets in the new costume.

5) Tony did program the suit to change to his old designs in case he did not like the new one, so he is not forcing that design on him.

As to Tony going a bit crazy about people wearing his suits, how would you feel if someone stole something you created and used it to distroy and kill. I dont know about you but I would be mad as hell and make sure I try and find and distroy every one of those things.

Giving something to someone you trust and having it stolen by people you dont even know let alone trust is not the same thing. Also Spidermans new suit is not suped up to the level of the Iron man suits that were stolen. I mean besides the "mechanical hands" the suit has no offensive powers, and even those are meant to be to delicate to really be used in battle.
 

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