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[J.Howlett]

jmc,

Absolutely, you kind of wonder if they may have played their hand too early. I think the best way you could have ended the film was to have had Eric come to some sort of realization about what he was doing and listen to Charles. You would have at least planted the seed that the friendship will ultimately cease, as it stands it's kinda over already.

They did. Honestly, because of the last two X-Men flicks, I can understand why they'd just get everyone in their positions. We don't know if the audience will take another X-Men film at this point because of the bad taste of the last two.

So, it's better to play it safe and make sure everyone is where they need to be.

But, they should've been confident enough in their film to leave a few things for sequels because this film is really good. I don't think it's Dark Knight good but I think it might have cracked my top 5 of the genre, after only one viewing.

But, given that Vaughn only had 10 months to make this thing, he did a hell of a job.

Damn, now I'm thinking about my list of the best of the genre and I'm having a real hard time placing it. I know it's in the top 10 but another viewing will let me know if it's top 5.

 

[chamber-music]

Not only that but:

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A Jew killing a Nazi with a coin (money) straight through his head...makes you think.

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It was cool but Shaw wasn't really a Nazi ideology wise. He seemed to work with whoever would suit his own goals of mutant dominance be it the Nazis, Russians or Americans.

 

[RKO]

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It was cool but Shaw wasn't really a Nazi ideology wise. He seemed to work with whoever would suit his own goals of mutant dominance be it the Nazis, Russians or Americans.

Right. Still definitely a very striking image.

 

[psyonic]

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now, let's be clear. Xavier was the one who used Cerebro; Hank was the one who built it. But you're right, no Magneto involvement

In future films, perhaps they reconcile for a while or even defeat enemies together. Maybe Magneto helps him build the one seen in X1 and X2 since it's a big, metallic round room. You saw how he reconfigured the panels in X2, he knows how cerebro works.

 

[Heffer Wolf]

Loved every single second of this movie. As a fan of the X-Men, its good to see a good X-Men movie again. Even the training montage, which I usualy absolutly HATE, was really well done. I'm impressed.

The characters were awesome. People say most don't really get a chance to shine, but I thought they were all perfect for what they were. I thought Emma Frost was good. Not quite enough of a *****, but good still. She seemed sexy and smart, and thats a good start. Banshee, besides sometimes sounding like he might be deaf, was cool. Shaw was scary as hell. Riptide, even though he never said a word, just had this confidence about him like 'yeah, I can make ****ing tornados. what." And Azazel just cemented my belief that being able to teleport would be the coolest power to have. Hell, even Havok, Beast and Angel were cool. I am glad they [BLACKOUT]killed Darwin, because honestly, for some reason, I wasn't really feeling him on the team.[/BLACKOUT] And obviously Magneto and Professor X were ****.

anyways, loved it.

 

[chamber-music]

Wasn't Cerebro

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destroyed by Riptide anyway nothing to say Charles and Erik don't build a future version. Xavier said Magneto helped build it not create it if I remember correctly

 

[chamber-music]

Loved every single second of this movie. As a fan of the X-Men, its good to see a good X-Men movie again. Even the training montage, which I usualy absolutly HATE, was really well done. I'm impressed.

The characters were awesome. People say most don't really get a chance to shine, but I thought they were all perfect for what they were. I thought Emma Frost was good. Not quite enough of a *****, but good still. She seemed sexy and smart, and thats a good start. Banshee, besides sometimes sounding like he might be deaf, was cool. Shaw was scary as hell. Riptide, even though he never said a word, just had this confidence about him like 'yeah, I can make ****ing tornados. what." And Azazel just cemented my belief that being able to teleport would be the coolest power to have. Hell, even Havok, Beast and Angel were cool. I am glad they [BLACKOUT]killed Darwin, because honestly, for some reason, I wasn't really feeling him on the team.[/BLACKOUT] And obviously Magneto and Professor X were ****.

anyways, loved it.

Racist

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Joking

yeah I didn't think he would survive due to how little was shown of him in the trailers

 

[craigdbfan]

Darwin had a [BLACKOUT]beautiful death scene though.[/BLACKOUT] No doubt about that.

 

[tedw]

Which is why I see this as a loose prequel

I agree I don't think Vaughn should feel he strictly has to follow every piece of continuity from films 11 years old by other directors

Why does it matter how much time has passed since X1 was filmed if you're setting this in the same universe and it's meant to be the same characters? You can't have it be both a reboot and a prequel; I think they should've chosen one and stuck just a little more carefully to it.

I think you guys are downplaying Xavier and Erik's relationship a bit. Erik was the first mutant Xavier encountered besides Raven and he was someone that he saw as his equal.

They also fought in a war together, this would bring anyone close together. Let's not forget that Xavier was in Erik's mind!! They shared some pretty intimate moments. They became very close, it doesn't matter if it was just a couple of weeks.

If anything I find it harder to believe that two men were best friends for decades and then decided to wage war on each other in their golden years.

Yes, Erik was the second mutant Xavier met, but he'd known Raven for 18 years, and Erik for less than a month. So the key relationship with an "old friend" for Xavier would be Mystique, surely? She fought alongside him in the same "war".

I don't think the two men had to be friends for decades before a split, but surely they could have met at Oxford, both students, and been friends for a little while before they get swept up in the events of the movie. It doesn't seem like Erik is hanging around Xavier for any reason other than they're both after Shaw; I wish their friendship had grown regardless of being mutants, not because of it.

It feels a bit like the filmmakers remembered that Xavier and Magneto are meant to be great friends based on the comics and films, but forgot to show us that friendship blooming.

 

[Iron Man]

This was a fantastic film, brilliantly put together and with awesome action scenes, excellent characterisation, and a great cast. I'll admit that it took me a while to reconcile the oddness of the characters that were assembled, but once I'd gotten over that, I really enjoyed it. The cameo from Wolverine was inspired and hilarious. The standout has to be Michael Fassbender as Magneto, though. He fit the role perfectly.

There was only one thing that I wasn't really keen on, and that was the sibling relationship that was set up between Xavier and Mystique. That didn't really work for me at all.

 

[Heffer Wolf]

Racist

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Joking

yeah I didn't think he would survive due to how little was shown of him in the trailers

But...but... I loved Angel.t:

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No I don't know what it was about him. Maybe it was his shape, as weird as that sounds. He looked like maybe he had Carrot Top syndrome, where his arms are just super ripped, but the rest of him is scrawny as hell. Would you want to look at Carrot Top for 2 hours? Didn't think so...

 

[chamber-music]

Nothing to say Charles and Erik won't be allies or even on friendly terms in the future. Magneto switches back and forth all the time in the comics and they have worked together against common foes in X2 and multiple times in the comics.

I don't think its all out war between the X-Men and Brotherhood just yet. despite what happened you still got the feeling they didn't hate one another

 

[chamber-music]

But...but... I loved Angel.t:

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No I don't know what it was about him. Maybe it was his shape, as weird as that sounds. He looked like maybe he had Carrot Top syndrome, where his arms are just super ripped, but the rest of him is scrawny as hell. Would you want to look at Carrot Top for 2 hours? Didn't think so...

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Darwin and Angel were characters I was least favourite of from the comics so didn't mind if they died in the movies.

 

[Heffer Wolf]

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Darwin and Angel were characters I was least favourite of from the comics so didn't mind if they died in the movies.

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I was never really familar with Darwin, but I read the New X-Men run with Angel, and I always thought she was just a creepy bizarre character. Her and beak were just... weird. But in this, I don't know, maybe it was just her cruising around spitting acid fire balls at people, and taking down Banshee. I just thought it was kind of cool. And it helps that Zoe Kravitz is smoking hot.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

Out of all of the issues I had with this movie, the one that I REALLY was upset about, was

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the no lingering "X" in the FOX logo.

I mean, WTF. I know this is supposed to be the beginning, but seriously, it's still an X-MEN movie. I don't know why it wasn't there...or maybe my eye sight is going bad.

 

[RKO]

Out of all of the issues I had with this movie, the one that I REALLY was upset about, was

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the no lingering "X" in the FOX logo.

I mean, WTF. I know this is supposed to be the beginning, but seriously, it's still an X-MEN movie. I don't know why it wasn't there...or maybe my eye sight is going bad.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

 

[truth]

Darwin had a [BLACKOUT]beautiful death scene though.[/BLACKOUT] No doubt about that.

No.

 

[craigdbfan]

No.

Care to elaborate?

[BLACKOUT]I really liked the character and as brief as his appearance was his death was handled gracefully despite fueling the "black guy dies first" trope. [/BLACKOUT]

 

[RKO]

Care to elaborate?

[BLACKOUT]I really liked the character and as brief as his appearance was his death was handled gracefully despite fueling the "black guy dies first" trope. [/BLACKOUT]

Also the memorable scene:

"Or would you rather be enslaved"

*Shot of the only black man in the room*


I hadn't laughed so hard in a while.

 

[LostSon88]

I actually didn't pick that up. My audience was in hysterics.

Probably because when that happened, a black woman behind us said very loudly,

"OH HELL NO..."

 

[craigdbfan]

Also the memorable scene:

"Or would you rather be enslaved"

*Shot of the only black man in the room*


I hadn't laughed so hard in a while.

I actually didn't pick that up. My audience was in hysterics.

Probably because when that happened, a black woman behind us said very loudly,

"OH HELL NO..."

Yeah, typical.

My coworkers and I caught that too and were balling.

 

[LostSon88]

I thought it was weird too,especially since she seems more callus in the other films, yet I found a subtle way to rationalize her attack against Xaiver in X-1, in that film Charles was left in a coma from her sabotage, yet coincidently awoke after the liberty island encounter. My personal belief that she just meant to keep him out of it while Erik did his thing.

I always took that as it being part of the Brotherhoods plan in X1. That Erik (and Mystique) never meant for Xavier to be permanently incapacitated. It was their intentions to put Xavier in a temporary coma, while they carried out their plan.

There's no way he would ever try to pemanently harm Charles

...well, on purpose at least.

 

[craigdbfan]

He did leave him to die in X2 when the dam was breaking.

"Goodbye my old friend".

 

[LostSon88]

That one is also debatable though isn't it? Correct me if i'm wrong but,

At the time Magneto and Mystique left Xavier in the Dark Cerebro, were they aware the dam had been ruptured and that the whole facility was going to come down? From my memory I don't believe they did.

I again took that as them simply leaving him to wake up in a "brave new world".

...only they failed both times, lol.