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[Bren]

I could imagine they could easily have shown Magneto' silhouette (with helmet) as they broke into [BLACKOUT]Frost's cell, and Frost say something like "Sebastian, what took you so long... And then see it's Magneto[/BLACKOUT]

Would explain she was waiting for him. Pity we didn't get something to explain it. Personally, I thought she made it clear she could escape anytime, which should have got the CIA guys seriously worried.

Regarding Cerebro, I can easily see guilt for what happened to Xavier make Magneto help him (and Beast, probably) built the 2nd and current Cerebro. Of course, guilt does wear off eventually....

 

[ALP]

Magnetos helmet? Did they ever say it was ever metal? No you simply assumed it was.


Why did frost [BLACKOUT] never escape?[/BLACKOUT]
[BLACKOUT]Well she was captured in the first place. She probably didn't think she would win round 3 with Magneto and X. Hell maybe she just knew patience because she didn't seem the least bit flustered. Shaw beat the CIA to hell in mere minutes. She probably thought he would come for her.[/BLACKOUT]


I think less rushed script and more like some folks really need everything spelled out for them.

LMAO...seriously, just LMAO.


You patronize people by telling them what they simply 'assume' and then go on to list a bunch of 'possible' 'maybe' assumptions of why Frost never escaped....all in one post.

 

[roach]

I dont think I need everything spelled out but I need some reason why a powerful telepath would stay in prison

 

[SuperSoldier985]

I think less rushed script and more like some folks really need everything spelled out for them.

Oh, did you work on the movie?

 

[Piz]

Spoiler

I think they should have saved the ending scene where Magneto infiltrated the CIA to free Emma for after the credits... just so they'd have an after credits scene, lol.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

I dont think I need everything spelled out but I need some reason why a powerful telepath would stay in prison

Well, she's playing it smart and safe and biding her time it seemed.

 

[ALP]

Spoiler

I think they should have saved the ending scene where Magneto infiltrated the CIA to free Emma for after the credits... just so they'd have an after credits scene, lol.

Hell no. I hate these after credit scenes, completely useless waste of time. Thank god they did not make me wait 10 minutes of droning credits to see a single one minute scene. I hate being compelled to stay for those...

 

[By your Command]

A friend of mine told me that it would have been better if they explained in the movie that while she was a telepath, she had mild brain damage, and that's why she couldn't escape, she just didn't know what to do without Shaw, while I laughed, I think that would have been a great and completely unexpected explanation.

 

[X-Maniac]

I dont think I need everything spelled out but I need some reason why a powerful telepath would stay in prison

It was pretty obvious she was utterly confident that Shaw would succeed in his plans and was just biding her time. Her arrogant/supremacist thinking is shown when she cuts the glass and says what she says.

 

[kedrell]

Still, it makes one wonder why she would choose to stay there.

 

[X-Maniac]

Still, it makes one wonder why she would choose to stay there.

Because she was biding her time, confident that Shaw would succeed (as indicated in her dialogue) and then come for her. To get from Russia to Cuba would be better with the aid of Azazel than trying to get there on her own.

 

[tedw]

Because she was biding her time, confident that Shaw would succeed (as indicated in her dialogue) and then come for her. To get from Russia to Cuba would be better with the aid of Azazel than trying to get there on her own.

It's not "obvious" if there are people who question it. It may have been their suggestion, but perhaps it didn't come across as well as they intended.

That, or you think people are more stupid than you.

 

[kedrell]

Because she was biding her time, confident that Shaw would succeed (as indicated in her dialogue) and then come for her. To get from Russia to Cuba would be better with the aid of Azazel than trying to get there on her own.

I thought she was in DC as a guest/prisoner of the CIA.

 

[X-Maniac]

It's not "obvious" if there are people who question it. It may have been their suggestion, but perhaps it didn't come across as well as they intended.

I feel pretty sure that Vaughn/Goldman/Singer intended what i thought, because none of them would just leave a plothole. Her dialogue is the key, and her cutting a circle to say it..it's just the act of someone who is very sure of victory.

That, or you think people are more stupid than you.

Well, common sense dictates that some people will be more stupid. On forums, it's hard to determine through the murky mist of anonymity. I might be speaking to an eight-year-old child for all I know, we aren't all of equal age, education and maturity. I don't mean this to come off as 'attitude' in any way here, but I'm just saying that some people don't 'get' things. We had someone on here believing that Xavier was telekinetically holding a bullet from the cop's head in X1, and another believing Storm was part of the original comics line-up. I wouldn't go so far as to make accusations of 'stupidity' but they were wrong, quite clearly...

 

[X-Maniac]

I thought she was in DC as a guest/prisoner of the CIA.

That's true. At that point she was beneath the CIA HQ, you're right. But still, the argument that she was awaiting Shaw or Azazel stands as sound and logical reasoning, wherever she was located.

 

[roach]

I thought it was pretty evident in the scene where she had to get ice for his drink that he didnt care about her...and it seemed like she understood it in that scene...so why would she expect him to come and get her.

 

[kedrell]

Ok, how are they supposed to know where she is so Azazel can come get her? Magneto knew because he helped apprehend her.

 

[X-Maniac]

I thought it was pretty evident in the scene where she had to get ice for his drink that he didnt care about her...and it seemed like she understood it in that scene...so why would she expect him to come and get her.

But do we know if he would abandon her? I think you're overthinking, you just have to interpret what she said and did, which implied she was sure Shaw would succeed. 'War implies both sides have an equal chance of winning.'

 

[tedw]

I feel pretty sure that Vaughn/Goldman/Singer intended what i thought, because none of them would just leave a plothole. Her dialogue is the key, and her cutting a circle to say it..it's just the act of someone who is very sure of victory.

You may feel sure, but it's still just your assumption, and you were stating it as though it was a fact.

Well, common sense dictates that some people will be more stupid. On forums, it's hard to determine through the murky mist of anonymity. I might be speaking to an eight-year-old child for all I know, we aren't all of equal age, education and maturity. I don't mean this to come off as 'attitude' in any way here, but I'm just saying that some people don't 'get' things.

Thinking people are stupid might not be 'attitude', but telling people that what you assume/believe is "obvious" as though it's a cold, hard fact seems like 'attitude'.

Mistakes happen. Filmmakers, even the best of them, can leave plotholes or screw continuity. People look at stuff like Iceman not freezing the wall of water in X2 and call it a plothole, and make up any number of reasons why he didn't. They're still just assumptions. Even if the filmmakers did intend a reason, if the way they portrayed it caused a number of people to question it then perhaps they could have done it a bit better. Stating that there's an obvious reason and that anyone who doesn't "get it" is stupid just seems arrogant, I'm sorry.

 

[X-Maniac]

Ok, how are they supposed to know where she is so Azazel can come get her? Magneto knew because he helped apprehend her.

I think someone like Shaw would soon find that out.

 

[ALP]

I feel pretty sure that Vaughn/Goldman/Singer intended what i thought, because none of them would just leave a plothole. Her dialogue is the key, and her cutting a circle to say it..it's just the act of someone who is very sure of victory.

Yeah like why Az didn't just teleport himself or anyone else off the island when all of the nukes were coming at them. He either had a lot of faith in someone he knows nothing about or maybe he just spaced out and was ready to die so he just stood there like a stoned idiot

 

[kedrell]

I think someone like Shaw would soon find that out.

Kind of just leaving it hanging out there in the wind for my tastes but ok.

 

[craigdbfan]

Yeah like why Az didn't just teleport himself or anyone else off the island when all of the nukes were coming at them. He either had a lot of faith in someone he knows nothing about or maybe he just spaced out and was ready to die so he just stood there like a stoned idiot

That's actually a good point.

Magneto did have to live up to his little monologue but that is putting a lot of faith on someone you don't really know.

Then again he did kill Shaw and maybe that was enough proof? Or they all froze because seeing an onslaught of missiles is sort of shocking.

 

[X-Maniac]

You may feel sure, but it's still just your assumption, and you were stating it as though it was a fact.

I'm interpreting the actions and dialogue shown on screen, and quite happy in my interpretation. To me it seemed the obvious interpretation. I'm happy that I'm happy with my answer.

Many things in many films could be spelled out more. But I saw this scene as indicating she was confident of Shaw's victory and happy to 'wait it out' while the nuclear armageddon happened. Until someone like Vaughn offers the 'official' explanation, I'm happy with mine.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Its actually very possible that a film maker like singer or Vaughn could leave a plot hole. Nobody is perfect. Singer has done plenty already in his x men films. If the whole Emma ordeal is a plot hole, its certainly one that doesn't detract from the experience for me.