Days of Future Past Have you seen X-Men: First Class? Post here!

[J.Howlett]

As an aside, how cute was that moment with Hank in the lab and Raven comes over and sits in his lap?

That got a great reaction in my audience last night.

 

[X-Maniac]

Yeah like why Az didn't just teleport himself or anyone else off the island when all of the nukes were coming at them. He either had a lot of faith in someone he knows nothing about or maybe he just spaced out and was ready to die so he just stood there like a stoned idiot

For storytelling purposes we had to see Shaw's henchmen choose to side with Magneto, and then get bamfed away. Magneto has assembled his first Brotherhood, that's what we needed to see.

I think that's all we need to bear in mind there. All this daft 'Why didn't he/she..' is irrelevant; it's the greater picture of the storytelling that matters.

 

[ALP]

Jackman's cameo had everyone in my theater howling.

 

[craigdbfan]

@J. Howlett Yeah that was great.

My coworkers and I just yelled out a "Woooooooo!" like those audio tracks in a sitcom.

Really cute scene indeed.

 

[tedw]

I'm interpreting the actions and dialogue shown on screen, and quite happy in my interpretation. To me it seemed the obvious interpretation. I'm happy that I'm happy with my answer.

Many things in many films could be spelled out more. But I saw this scene as indicating she was confident of Shaw's victory and happy to 'wait it out' while the nuclear armageddon happened. Until someone like Vaughn offers the 'official' explanation, I'm happy with mine.

Dude, it's great if you're happy with what you took away from the film... but you seem annoyed that others didn't come away with the same interpretation and are suggesting there's a plothole. So long as you're happy that you're happy, why does that matter?

 

[X-Maniac]

Dude, it's great if you're happy with what you took away from the film... but you seem annoyed that others didn't come away with the same interpretation and are suggesting there's a plothole. So long as you're happy that you're happy, why does that matter?

Well, there is a bit of silly nitpicking going on here, don't try to pull the wool over my eyes!

I was sharing my viewpoint, hopefully offering an explanation others might not have considered.

 

[roach]

For storytelling purposes we had to see Shaw's henchmen choose to side with Magneto, and then get bamfed away. Magneto has assembled his first Brotherhood, that's what we needed to see.

I think that's all we need to bear in mind there. All this daft 'Why didn't he/she..' is irrelevant; it's the greater picture of the storytelling that matters.

its not irrelevant. "The devil is in the details". If things dont make sense on the small details then it carries on to the big picture.

 

[vindrow]

Just got back from seeing X:FC and I have to say that is was a great film. To me, it was the 2nd best X-Film.....it was just below X-2 but well above X-1, X-3, and Wolverine.

I would be really fine with the idea of this being a reboot for the whole X-Film franchise if they decide to go in that direction.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Just got back from seeing this and I loved it. Fassbender and McAvoy were awesome. I would put this on equal footing with Superman: The Movie, Batman Begins, and Iron Man as my favorite superhero origin movies. I would also put this on equal footing with X2 as the best X-Men movie. I consider X2 one of the best of the genre, so that is pretty impressive company to be in. To put it bluntly, X-Men: First Class rocks!

 

[SuperSoldier985]

Saw it for a THIRD time this morning (Each time I've seen it at a different theater)

Trailer list on my third viewing was short..
-Warrior
-Real Steel

It never occurred to me until now that the woman that Xavier talks to, with the blue and green eyes, must be William Stryker's future wife/Jason's mother..

 

[X-Maniac]

its not irrelevant. "The devil is in the details". If things dont make sense on the small details then it carries on to the big picture.

That may happen in your world, but not in mine.

Continuity issue? Pah

The odd 'Why didn't she/she...' Pfft.

I think it's a great movie packed with emotion and drama. Just saw it with a friend - someone who isn't a forum fanatic - who said he couldn't find a single thing wrong with it. Yay!

 

[tedw]

Well, there is a bit of silly nitpicking going on here, don't try to pull the wool over my eyes!

I was sharing my viewpoint, hopefully offering an explanation others might not have considered.

I'm sorry, I just don't think telling people that there's an obvious answer that they just don't "get" is helpful. The way you're "offering an explanation" to people seems a bit arrogant.

People may not have considered your point of view, but not considering it - or considering it, and then disagreeing with it - does not mean they are stupid.

 

[X-Maniac]

I'm sorry, I just don't think telling people that there's an obvious answer that they just don't "get" is helpful. The way you're "offering an explanation" to people seems a bit arrogant.

People may not have considered your point of view, but not considering it - or considering it, and then disagreeing with it - does not mean they are stupid.

What's your problem ted? That I liked it and you didn't? That I dare offer my interpretation - which to me seemed obvious - of a debated issue?

Can i ask: What do you ultimately want from the X-Men franchise? A Singer-directed film? A reboot with the original five? For Marvel to reclaim the rights? What do you want to see next?

 

[roach]

That may happen in your world, but not in mine.

Continuity issue? Pah

The odd 'Why didn't she/she...' Pfft.

I think it's a great movie packed with emotion and drama. Just saw it with a friend - someone who isn't a forum fanatic - who said he couldn't find a single thing wrong with it. Yay!

yeah im only a film student with a heavy slant towards screenwriting and storytelling...yeah I dont know what Im talking about

 

[roach]

What's your problem ted? That I liked it and you didn't? That I dare offer my interpretation - which to me seemed obvious - of a debated issue?

Can i ask: What do you ultimately want from the X-Men franchise? A Singer-directed film? A reboot with the original five? For Marvel to reclaim the rights? What do you want to see next?

i think you have more of an issue that he didnt find it to be cinematic perfection and you did

 

[X-Maniac]

yeah im only a film student with a heavy slant towards screenwriting and storytelling...yeah I dont know what Im talking about

Everyone on here seems to be a 'film student'...

It's a shame you had issues with it, what more can I say?

 

[roach]

Everyone on here seems to be a 'film student'...

It's a shame you had issues with it, what more can I say?

yeah well im actually going to a school, taking classes, getting grades.

why is it a shame. I enjoyed the movie. However from a story point of view there are some plot holes.

 

[X-Maniac]

i think you have more of an issue that he didnt find it to be cinematic perfection and you did

i think it's the other way round...

I didn't think it 'cinematic perfection' but it's not far off in my eyes.

What did you want to see instead of what we got? Do you want Fox to hand back the rights to Marvel? To get the original cast back for an X4? To have a reboot with the original comics line-up? For Singer to be directing? For Ratner or Hood to come back? Or just for another version of this film (Fox/Vaughn/Singer/Goldman/same cast) to measure up to your standards more?

 

[tedw]

What's your problem ted? That I liked it and you didn't? That I dare offer my interpretation - which to me seemed obvious - of a debated issue?

Can i ask: What do you ultimately want from the X-Men franchise? A Singer-directed film? A reboot with the original five? For Marvel to reclaim the rights? What do you want to see next?

No, you're totally misinterpreting. I'm glad you liked it; I wish I had, but I didn't. Any problem you percieve comes from the fact that as soon as I posted to say I didn't think it was amazing, you dismissed my opinions as a pedantic tirade, and you seem to be taking it personally when others raise any kind of issue. Does it matter whether somebody is a "forum fanatic" or not? Does that make their opinion less relevant - and if so, why? I saw it with somebody who doesn't even know that this website exists, and she thought it was ****. So what?

I wanted this film to make me feel like the first two films made me feel - hungry for the next. I haven't been on these forums in ages, so I had no preconcieved notions going into this movie other than the fact that I'd seen the trailer and thought that it actually kicked all kinds of ass. And the film I saw didn't deliver what I'd hoped, unfortunately.

Obviously, there are people who didn't care for the first two movies, but I think what they delivered made this genre viable after the 90s' Batman movies made superhero movies seem like a joke. I think X1 and X2 set a pretty high bar, and I can only hope for future films to continue to live up to that standard. XMFC didn't entirely achieve that for me, and I wanted to come here to discuss this with other fans and get their opinions. I did not come here just to get dumped on by someone because my post was too long.

Funnily enough, my reaction to X3 was immediate, and intense, dislike. Mostly because X3 felt, to me, like potential squandered. And XMFC felt the same. And you know what? X3 doesn't bother me so much now, and perhaps the same will happen with XMFC. I'd like the opportunity to grow to find more of it enjoyable, but there are still things I think could have been done better, and from the posts around here some of the questions I have are questions that other posters have as well. Your posts, towards me in particular, seem to suggest that these questions ought just to be dismissed as fanatic, or negative, or nitpicking, and I'm afraid I just don't see why.

 

[X-Maniac]

No, you're totally misinterpreting. I'm glad you liked it; I wish I had, but I didn't. Any problem you percieve comes from the fact that as soon as I posted to say I didn't think it was amazing, you dismissed my opinions as a pedantic tirade, and you seem to be taking it personally when others raise any kind of issue. Does it matter whether somebody is a "forum fanatic" or not? Does that make their opinion less relevant - and if so, why? I saw it with somebody who doesn't even know that this website exists, and she thought it was ****. So what?

I wanted this film to make me feel like the first two films made me feel - hungry for the next. I haven't been on these forums in ages, so I had no preconcieved notions going into this movie other than the fact that I'd seen the trailer and thought that it actually kicked all kinds of ass. And the film I saw didn't deliver what I'd hoped, unfortunately.

Obviously, there are people who didn't care for the first two movies, but I think what they delivered made this genre viable after the 90s' Batman movies made superhero movies seem like a joke. I think X1 and X2 set a pretty high bar, and I can only hope for future films to continue to live up to that standard. XMFC didn't entirely achieve that for me, and I wanted to come here to discuss this with other fans and get their opinions. I did not come here just to get dumped on by someone because my post was too long.

Funnily enough, my reaction to X3 was immediate, and intense, dislike. Mostly because X3 felt, to me, like potential squandered. And XMFC felt the same. And you know what? X3 doesn't bother me so much now, and perhaps the same will happen with XMFC. I'd like the opportunity to grow to find more of it enjoyable, but there are still things I think could have been done better, and from the posts around here some of the questions I have are questions that other posters have as well. Your posts, towards me in particular, seem to suggest that these questions ought just to be dismissed as fanatic, or negative, or nitpicking, and I'm afraid I just don't see why.

Well, you raised such a huge list of things you regarded as minor or major issues, it looked an impossible task to even begin to address or discuss. So I decided not to bother. I simply didn't have the time or energy (or want to waste the time or energy) to begin debating everything you raised.

If someone is a forum fanatic or a nitpicker, they are never going to be satisfied. It's pointless. They will never accept any answers, interpretations or explanations. I've been down that road before, on here, with others.

I'm not suggesting you are a forum fanatic or nitpicker, but you are clearly fairly obsessional about the X-Men movies, and your dislike of the film was so detailed and so wide-ranging that it seemed pointless to try and debate it, to be honest. I refuse to get drawn into that endless merry-go-round, it wouldn't get us anywhere. Hours, days, weeks would be wasted and at the end of it, I'd still like the film and you'd still hate it.

 

[tedw]

If someone is a forum fanatic or a nitpicker, they are never going to be satisfied. It's pointless. They will never accept any answers, interpretations or explanations. I've been down that road before, on here, with others.

I don't agree with this. They may never be happy with something that made them unhappy, but that does not mean they will never be happy carte blanche. It seems like you're suggesting that they have a personality that does not merit any attention because all they do is fuss and whine.

I'm not suggesting you are a forum fanatic or nitpicker, but you are clearly fairly obsessional about the X-Men movies, and your dislike of the film was so detailed and so wide-ranging that it seemed pointless to try and debate it, to be honest. I refuse to get drawn into that endless merry-go-round, it wouldn't get us anywhere. Hours, days, weeks would be wasted and at the end of it, I'd still like the film and you'd still hate it.

I'm interested to know what makes me obsessed any more than you. We're both here talking about the films, are we not? If I'd listed positives to the same length as I did negatives, would that make me "obsessional", or just satisfied?

I have never asked for you to debate. You still haven't answered why it seems to bother you that people may have questions or profess a negative opinion. I don't understand why you seem annoyed that somebody suggests this film may contain plotholes; why are you expending any energy trying to convince anyone if you think it's a waste of time to pursue this "merry-go-round"? Why don't you just ignore the people who raise these questions and let them debate it amongst themselves, or with people who do want to take the time to do so?

I'm not suggesting you can't put forth an opinion, or state that you liked the film, or even try to defend it. But your posts compare some of us to eight-year-olds, and suggest that some of us are inevitably more stupid than you. By all means, offer your explanations - just don't put people down when you do so.

 

[X-Maniac]

I don't agree with this. They may never be happy with something that made them unhappy, but that does not mean they will never be happy carte blanche. It seems like you're suggesting that they have a personality that does not merit any attention because all they do is fuss and whine.

You seem absolutely desperate to debate this! I'm saying they will never be happy with the thing that made them unhappy, not with life in general.

I'm interested to know what makes me obsessed any more than you. We're both here talking about the films, are we not? If I'd listed positives to the same length as I did negatives, would that make me "obsessional", or just satisfied?

I have never asked for you to debate. You still haven't answered why it seems to bother you that people may have questions or profess a negative opinion. I don't understand why you seem annoyed that somebody suggests this film may contain plotholes; why are you expending any energy trying to convince anyone if you think it's a waste of time to pursue this "merry-go-round"? Why don't you just ignore the people who raise these questions and let them debate it amongst themselves, or with people who do want to take the time to do so?

I'm not suggesting you can't put forth an opinion, or state that you liked the film, or even try to defend it. But your posts compare some of us to eight-year-olds, and suggest that some of us are inevitably more stupid than you. By all means, offer your explanations - just don't put people down when you do so.

Well, i liked the film but haven't made huge lists of stuff i liked. I am fairly geeky about X-Men and superheroes, but I try to draw back from too much obsessing, because I don't have the time or energy! Hours can be wasted on forums like this, and I'm in danger of that now, so i am going after this, because I need my sleep! The duvet is calling...

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Awww... The good ol' X Forums =)

 

[roach]

Awww... The good ol' X Forums =)

could be worst...could be the bat forums

but I remember the good old Morrison vs Claremont debates

 

[Silvermoth]

Not since X-men 2 has my mouth simply been held open the entire time. I loved it! Best blockbuster of the year I think, way better than Thor!

The acting was superb. Magneto's raw anger and vulnerability sent chills down my spine. Xavier's journey from loveable playboy to the wise teacher we know him as today was authentic and relatable. The X-kids were superb particularly Lawrence as Mystique and I'm glad Matthew Vaughn did not shy away from the time or the heavier themes such as the holocaust. It's a thinking man (and woman's) blockbuster.

Rose Byrne is lovely as the token human, Moira McTaggert and the action is intense. At the end of the movie I even almost cried (I was with my friends so I couldn't really). The X-men cameos were awesome, I loved the little nods which didn't need that slap in the face effect Marvel does with the Avengers. They were subtle and awesome.

I wonder where all the people who panicked because they misinterpreted Matthew Vaughn's comment that his movie was similar to Twilight are?

10/10 for me, I want more, more, MORE!