Days of Future Past Have you seen X-Men: First Class? Post here!

[truth]

Don't care about the sequels. They can do whatever they want. The continuity and stuff is all F'ed up. Waiting for some day, in the next thousand years to actually get X-Men right. "Fans" and "Fanboys" are soooooooooo quick to champion any film as being THE ONE TRUE X-MEN film. Important to show that not ALL fans accept mediocrity.

 

[Figs]

This movie doesn't succeed in being an X-men movie on its own merits, but as a nostalgic homage to the 1960's James Bond films. It's an odd combination to see in a period piece film circa 1962. In fact, this is also where the film falters as well. The clothing, sayings and styles are all representative of the mid to late 1960's, not 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think more than anything else, this film is being received well because of the similarities to the early Bond films.

Personally, I think people are only bringing this up all the time because Vaughn said that he was kind of going for that. If he never said that, I highly doubt all the people saying that it was like a Bond film would have thought that at all.

Don't care about the sequels. They can do whatever they want. The continuity and stuff is all F'ed up. Waiting for some day, in the next thousand years to actually get X-Men right. "Fans" and "Fanboys" are soooooooooo quick to champion any film as being THE ONE TRUE X-MEN film. Important to show that not ALL fans accept mediocrity.

Do you hate all the films, or are you just bitter that the continuity is messed up between the films?

 

[truth]

I'm not going to see or support this movie. You know why? Fox are a bunch of schemers. This is going to make a lot of money, but we're not going to get a well-deserved X-Men 4. No. Instead, Fox is going to go the Star Trek route and make a bunch of movies about the young version of the characters (mainly its because its cheaper for them to pay these actors). And for that, they can piss off!

With that said, GO AND SAVE THE CITY!

The way of modern Hollywood.

Not about creativity, about making CASH

 

[Russell Nash]

Personally, I think people are only bringing this up all the time because Vaughn said that he was kind of going for that. If he never said that, I highly doubt all the people saying that it was like a Bond film would have thought that at all.

First Class worships at the altar of the early Bond films and Dr. Strangelove. It's more than obvious. I don't need the director to tell me that.

That's really my complaint with First Class as a whole. This was the period piece Casino Royale movie Tarantino wanted to make but with Magneto instead of James Bond. It even has the same ending as Casino Royale, how James became Bond and how Erik became Magneto.

 

[Figs]

First Class worships at the altar of the early Bond films and Dr. Strangelove. It's more than obvious. I don't need the director to tell me that.

I've seen just about every Bond film. There are similarities of course with X:FC, but I still think people are jumping on that X-men FC = Bond bandwagon. Maybe not you, but a lot of others. As for the Dr. Strangelove connection. There have been films in the past that have had scenes in a war room as well as a nuke or missle crisis of sorts. Just because X:FC also had those similarities doesn't mean it's copying or ripping off Dr. Strangelove, which is a movie I love by the way.

 

[Russell Nash]

I've seen just about every Bond film. There are similarities of course with X:FC, but I still think people are jumping on that X-men FC = Bond bandwagon. Maybe not you, but a lot of others. As for the Dr. Strangelove connection. There have been films in the past that have had scenes in a war room as well as a nuke or missle crisis of sorts. Just because X:FC also had those similarities doesn't mean it's copying or ripping off Dr. Strangelove, which is a movie I love by the way.

Remember, imitation is the highest form of flattery.

P.S. Why haven't you seen EVERY BOND FILM? You hate America, chocolate and puppies or something?

 

[Figs]

Remember, imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Very true. t:

P.S. Why haven't you seen EVERY BOND FILM? You hate America, chocolate and puppy's or something?

I'm not sure I want to brave the last two Brosnan films. I hear they're not that good. I mean you can definitely say the same about a number of Roger Moore's films, but I just don't know if I want to waste the time.

 

[Russell Nash]

I'm not sure I want to brave the last two Brosnan films. I hear they're not that good. I mean you can definitely say the same about a number of Roger Moore's films, but I just don't know if I want to waste the time.

Trust me, when you're spending the night with James Bond, you won't be wasting your time.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

Although this movie is extremely entertaining, it's highly flawed on multiple levels. The high points of the movie are undoubtedly Kevin Bacon and Michael Fassbender. But they weren't good as as Sebastian Shaw and Magneto; instead they were perfect for Le Chiffre and James Bond respectfully.

This movie doesn't succeed in being an X-men movie on its own merits, but as a nostalgic homage to the 1960's James Bond films. It's an odd combination to see in a period piece film circa 1962. In fact, this is also where the film falters as well. The clothing, sayings and styles are all representative of the mid to late 1960's, not 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think more than anything else, this film is being received well because of the similarities to the early Bond films.

The plot (wouldn't mutual hatred of mutants end the cold war?), secondary character interaction, search for mutant montage, and rushed pacing hurt the movie on many levels. This movie will earn Fox a lot of money in the next few weeks. The real question is where do they go from here? Ignore the past X-films? Or yet again walk the line between prequel and reboot?

I'm not a James Bond fan so whatever similarities that were there I thankfully missed. I can definitely agree in the part bolded though. The movie was solid and entertaining but not as great as I expected considering the rave reviews. It definitely felt rushed and disjointed which frustrated me throughout. There were too many instances where the characters exchanged a few lines of dialogue between each other and then it was on to the next scene. I know there were many characters to juggle but the editing jarred me out of the movie more than a few times. I could feel chunks of dialogue and development sitting on the cutting room floor. I'm hoping there's a director's cut that will fix this.

McAvoy, Fassbender's stellar performances and the action were the highlights of the film for sure.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I liked X-Men: First Class for the most part but I feel as if the third act was really weak, at times it came off as being overly serious, another criticism that I have is the dialog and the action. In my mind the action is bland, unoriginal, and unimaginative. As for the dialog, every line in the movie seems so damn basic. I thought that there were moments that were made up of over acting (James McAvoy as Professor X). Lastly, this movie would have been better in my case if it had revolved around Mystique and White Queen some more and would have been better if Sabastian Shaw wasn't defeated so easily. As a movie, it's good. As a comic book movie and X-Men movie, it's pretty good and is better than most comic book movies. One more thing, Beast looked really stupid imo and the lead up to the final battle was great.

I dare people to say that the third act couldn't have gotten any better.

 

[Figs]

Trust me, when you're spending the night with James Bond, you won't be wasting your time.

I'll probably break down and watch them eventually.


As for X-men First Class.

I really loved it. I felt just about everyone did a great job, some weren't given much to work with though sadly. As just a movie it was great, as an X-men film it was pretty damn good but it was missing something that I can't quite put my finger on yet.

I'm not an "action, action, must have more action" kind of guy. I do love me some action scenes, but prefer good writing and depth over it any day of the week. With that being said, I do wish the training scenes were a bit longer, as well as the fighting between the mutants near the end of the film. When it came to the last big scene of the film, I was hoping there would have been some more fighting with Beast vs Azazel and Havok vs Riptide, but what we got was still highly entertaining. Everything else in the movie was great and I absolutely loved that they used subtitles in the right places.

I really liked the scenes between Hank and Raven. My gf didn't care for them because she felt it was trying to shoehorn in a love story thing, but I loved the message it was trying to convey. Hell, that message was throughout the film, accepting who you are. It was just interesting to see Hank go from wanting Raven to change to something normal, to changing himself and basically truly forced to accept who he is now.

I can't wait for a sequel, not just to see where Vaughn takes it, but also so some of the characters can get fleshed out a lot more. I guess a minor complaint I have is that I kind of wish Hank turned into Beast a little earlier on in the film and that they had more time in the suits, which I loved.

As for the whole continuity debate. As far as I'm concerned this isn't a prequel but a new start for an X-men franchise/trilogy. Of course you can still watch this as a prequel to the other films, but the only true thing tying them together on a major level was the cameos of

Spoiler

Jackman and Rebecca Romijn.

Even then, those were pretty much just put in as a joking wink to the audience from Vaughn. I doubt he has any interest of bringing back

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Romijn to take over for Jennifer Lawrence in a possible third film or introducing Wolverine played by Jackman again.

Anything is possible I suppose, but I would bet money that that won't happen.

I just don't get all the crying over continuity issues. I don't get why some fans are so desperate to want this to tie into the other films. This could turn into a better series of films than the first three, and it's definitely off to a good start. I get that it would be cool to watch this and a possible sequel then go right into X1, but so far I like the differences in the X-men world Vaughn created here than in Singers. Not all mind you, but a good number of them.

I really like X1 and love X2, but comparing first films, First Class blows X1 out of the water. Yes, I know X1 had a smaller budget and was made during a time when studios still didn't have much faith in comic films, but it's really about the script and writing here. If this film is any indicator of what we could get next, I think it's highly possible the sequel could be way better than X2. So as far as continuity errors go, I'm ignoring all that BS and looking at Vaughn's X-men films as a stand alone series.

I also don't get the crying from some who hated this film mainly because they didn't get their X4. Face the facts, not only was X3 pretty weak, on a level where I personally didn't want them to continue and can't imagine why others would(unless you actually loved X3, which most seemingly didn't), but then you take into account that they made an Origins film based on the series most popular character right after it. If that wasn't the final nail in the coffin for an X4 then I don't know what is. I'm actually glad they have a new cast because I was getting tired of the other actors. A trilogy is good but usually a fourth film gets tiring with the same characters sometimes.

All in all, I really loved this film and plan on seeing it again in the near future. Thinking back, I think I know what I couldn't put my finger on earlier in regards to how much did this feel or not feel like an X-men film. It was the time it took to get to the actual team. The first half was just as great, but wasn't quite an X-men film yet if that makes sense. The second half is when I truly felt like it was something based on the comics. I think a sequel is going to blow us away.

One last thing. I had a big smile on my face when it panned around and showed Magneto with his suit on. Not only did the material make it look like his original costume, real vintage like, but he even added in the horns/ornament looking thing on the front.

 

[Psionic Force]

This movie kicked ass! I loved the nods to the previous X-Men movies and the acting and the story was awesome!

The only things I did not like ...

1. Moira, Banshee and Emma all having no accents
2. The way they came up with the names was a little cheesy

I will probably see this again. Definitely loved it!

 

[Vilya]

Overall, i didn't like this film as much as i thought i would, camera angles were boring.

1) Best action scene is the yatcht being destroyed by Eric's rage.
2) Loved the cameos.
3) Shaw was too powerful, he's not supposed to be able to project energy.
4) Emma was spot on in the looks and powers category but she lacks some depth in character.
5) Hated the magneto costume at the end, very cheesy
6) Young xmen's characters seem rushed, esp the training bits.

 

[BMM]

One last thing. I had a big smile on my face when it panned around and showed Magneto with his suit on. Not only did the material make it look like his original costume, real vintage like, but he even added in the horns/ornament looking thing on the front.

I may not be remembering it correctly, but I couldn't believe how faithful the costume was to that of Magneto's first appearances.

 

[def28]

I thought Emma was awesome. She just had nothing really to do except be a henchman to Shaw. She lacked self motivation. But in the end she was Emma.

Good movie. All the X films have flaws, but I had the best time in this one. Good to see the actors actually looking like they are having a good time.

 

[I, Shadow]

I loved it, haven't been this impressed since X2. Everyone did a great job, specially Fassbender, he was imposing, scary, tragic and well, Magneto.

Looking forward to the next installment, more mutants, Red Magneto and more historic events influenced by mutants. Hopefully the third class will be set on the 80's or 90's

I also think this should be taken as a standalone story (hopefully a trilogy)

 

[Godman]

How long does magneto wear the red costume for and how does he get it

whats irritating is how they dont explain the helmet being able to deflect Xavier. the technology is not explained

 

[Supermanreturns]

A simple stupid question:

In the end, there is Take That's Love Love? And when we can heard it?

Many thanks! t:

 

[Godman]

I loved it, haven't been this impressed since X2. Everyone did a great job, specially Fassbender, he was imposing, scary, tragic and well, Magneto.

Looking forward to the next installment, more mutants, Red Magneto and more historic events influenced by mutants. Hopefully the third class will be set on the 80's or 90's

I also think this should be taken as a standalone story (hopefully a trilogy)

yea if ur a comic fan of X men...just ignore everything you have ever read cause this aint the X Men movie for us die hard comic book fans. its for the fans of the singerverse Xmen that butchered the mythos...

 

[Godman]

Overall, i didn't like this film as much as i thought i would, camera angles were boring.

1) Best action scene is the yatcht being destroyed by Eric's rage.
2) Loved the cameos.
3) Shaw was too powerful, he's not supposed to be able to project energy.
4) Emma was spot on in the looks and powers category but she lacks some depth in character.
5) Hated the magneto costume at the end, very cheesy
6) Young xmen's characters seem rushed, esp the training bits.

Hell at least they had better character development than the previous installments with their stupid love triangle instead of developing cyclops as an individual and not an emotional punching bag for jean and wolverine

other than that i fully agree with everything said. I honestly feel Zack Snyder would have done a better job as he is good at source material and would have given us closer to the comic than ever as fars as being able to fit the cheesy outfits and what not into his type of film key etc. Watchmen costumes would have looked horrible if the movie was shot in standard format like Xmen, but in that weird film noir style and extra gamma contrast look, it worked very well so i do wish they had rebooted the xmen and started properly with the right origin team

 

[Godman]

Personally, I think people are only bringing this up all the time because Vaughn said that he was kind of going for that. If he never said that, I highly doubt all the people saying that it was like a Bond film would have thought that at all.



Do you hate all the films, or are you just bitter that the continuity is messed up between the films?

i personally am pissed off the contnuity is messed up period as the mythos i grew up reading has still yet to be brought to film. this is some alternate universe ****

 

[EnDz0n3]

Just came back from 10:30 showing. I've been anticipating this movie ever since its been announced. The sad thing is it was just ok for me. My siblings loved it.

I really hate myself for not loving it.

 

[Godman]

Just came back from 10:30 showing. I've been anticipating this movie ever since its been announced. The sad thing is it was just ok for me. My siblings loved it.

I really hate myself for not loving it.

i didnt LOVE it either...so dont blame u, its the movie studio that failed to still deliver the X Men movie the fans of the comics deserve

 

[The Demon's Head]

Just clearing a few things up- Agent Stryker is William Stryker's father, and Havok could still be Scott's brother. They call him Alex Summers.

 

[cryptic name]

Although this movie is extremely entertaining, it's highly flawed on multiple levels. The high points of the movie are undoubtedly Kevin Bacon and Michael Fassbender. But they weren't good as as Sebastian Shaw and Magneto; instead they were perfect for Le Chiffre and James Bond respectfully.

This movie doesn't succeed in being an X-men movie on its own merits, but as a nostalgic homage to the 1960's James Bond films. It's an odd combination to see in a period piece film circa 1962. In fact, this is also where the film falters as well. The clothing, sayings and styles are all representative of the mid to late 1960's, not 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think more than anything else, this film is being received well because of the similarities to the early Bond films.

The plot (wouldn't mutual hatred of mutants end the cold war?), secondary character interaction, search for mutant montage, and rushed pacing hurt the movie on many levels. This movie will earn Fox a lot of money in the next few weeks. The real question is where do they go from here? Ignore the past X-films? Or yet again walk the line between prequel and reboot?

Completely disagree. This felt like more of an X-Men film to me than any previous attempt. Also, this fits pretty damn well into continuity with the first two films, and I'm more than happy to pretend X3 and Wolverine never happened.

I loved almost everything about this movie. Especially excited for the promise of what a sequel could bring. Fassbender owned this movie top to bottom, but I felt every main character was likeable on some level, and the threats felt real. The relationship between Charles and Erik was great and it really made you feel the tension at the climax of the film. And the ending was pure geek joy.