HBO's Game of Thrones - - Part 11

[Roose Bolton]

The best part of Brienne's story was Hyle Hunt being a ****

 

[Lord]

So, considering GRRM's pace, the show will conclude before the final book is released, how will they fix this problem? Will the show take a hiatus for an undefinitive time?

 

[Roose Bolton]

It'll go off the air for 12 years, at which time the actor who plays Bran will go on to play Spike Spiegel in a Cowboy Bebop film.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If you can, you should hold off reading the last 400 pages of Storm of Swords until after watching season 4. Some of the best events of the series take place in those pages. It'd be a shame to ruin those surprises.

I probably will do, I am halfway through the Dark Tower series and just starting reading GOT as a break from that. After I finish book 1 will probably go back to finishing DT.

 

[Victarion]

I like how George has cited a bittersweet ending, i bet everyone just dies, i am more than open for the idea of my favorites dying. I also think the original 6th book title was "a time for wolves" which might have implied the rise of House Stark?

My favorite is dumb as a stump. He's a dead man.

You guys ready for the scene where Jon makes peace with the wildlings, only to have Stannis and his men charge in and impale Dalla's baby?

 

[Roose Bolton]

My favorite is dumb as a stump. He's a dead man.

You guys ready for the scene where Jon makes peace with the wildlings, only to have Stannis and his men charge in and impale Dalla's baby?

He's literally a dead man walking! t:

But then again I'm convinced his bro is Undying and that'll be a clash for the ages between Warlock and Fire-Wight.

 

[Iceman]

I probably will do, I am halfway through the Dark Tower series and just starting reading GOT as a break from that. After I finish book 1 will probably go back to finishing DT.

Ha, exactly the same here. Although I'll probably read up to the part in Book 3 that Marvolo said to read to before going back.

If you can, you should hold off reading the last 400 pages of Storm of Swords until after watching season 4. Some of the best events of the series take place in those pages. It'd be a shame to ruin those surprises.

So, considering GRRM's pace, the show will conclude before the final book is released, how will they fix this problem? Will the show take a hiatus for an undefinitive time?

Doubt that. He'll probably just tell them how it's supposed to end. Can't have all those actors in limbo.

 

[Iceman]

Back in the day, before he was rich and famous GRRM had these things called deadlines.

ASoIaF went from a trilogy, to getting longer and longer over a very short period of time. He was probably halfway through ASOS, which he started writing before finishing ACOK, before he realized his error, mainly with Bran and Ayra. The others are actually fine really. It is those two that are just too young considering.

I see. At least in the show they will automatically age with the 1 year gap between every season and should look quite different near the last season (if they are still around then ).

Looking at publishing dates the 3rd book is very big but was published very soon after the 2nd while the 4th and 5th have been very far apart. Is it after the 3rd where he got huge and could relax a bit? I'd hate to have to write to a deadline but that's the job I guess.

Joffrey 16 in the first season? That doesn't sound right at all

What age do you think sounds right? 14/15?

 

[chamber-music]

Well in any case they've aged him down, into the handsome Iwan Rheon.

bang bang
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[Roose Bolton]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Spoiler

-I wouldn't expect Jon back for a while yet. He'll probably be out of action for most of the book. The Wall itself might even fall before it happens.

- Connington will be attacking King's Landing, that'll give us forward momentum on the Lannister/Tyrell downfall and I daresay get young Tommen killed, and from that Cersei's self-destruction. I've of the mind that the Stoneheart stuff will be worked out, and Jaime will be back in time to murder his twin, Valonqur style. Plus, Varys and Illyrio's shenanigans might have connections to Bran and Bloodraven, given that ol' Brynden was the one who killed the first Blackfyre pretender and drove them into exile, it'll build up the Second Dance of the Dragons that GRRM confirmed was going to happen. I'd imagine Connington's part will increase as FAegon's Hand

-I wouldn't automatically assume Davos goes straight back to Stannis, there's a lot of stuff being built up for Skagos, stuff which may reveal a lot more about the Old Gods. Even Roose mentions that their worship of the Gods makes him uncomfortable.


- I'd also add Sam at the Citadel trying to find the horn of winter. Euron's attacking, Oldtown so that's some serious stuff going on.

I think to write off so much content would be unwise. You might read a random Areo Hotah chapter and this guy might come in destroy your soul

Spoiler

Jon will spend time in Ghost, wake up, run in Cat, find out about his mother and finally start marching south imo.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Spoiler

Jon will spend time in Ghost, wake up, run in Cat, find out about his mother and finally start marching south imo.

Spoiler

I hope Cat runs into Petyr. Pet Semetary style.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Spoiler

I hope Cat runs into Petyr. Pet Semetary style.

Spoiler

I don't see it happening. I think Sansa will kill him first.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Probably.

Spoiler

And underage sex.

 

[Drz]

So, considering GRRM's pace, the show will conclude before the final book is released, how will they fix this problem? Will the show take a hiatus for an undefinitive time?

Martin already gives the writers spoilers for the future and already considers Game of Thrones different from his books, when it comes to characters and so on.

Both will end, both will be regarded as different.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

So, considering GRRM's pace, the show will conclude before the final book is released, how will they fix this problem? Will the show take a hiatus for an undefinitive time?

They won't fix it because they don't perceive it to be a problem. They've always said Game of Thrones is an adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire as a whole, each season is not meant to be an adaptation of each book.

 

[Maximus One]

What age do you think sounds right? 14/15?

Yea that's always about what I assumed it was. I can't remember if its actually ever stated in season 1 though

 

[DACrowe]

Actually I do foresee Martin getting very angry about how this plays out. He used to joke every time someone asked, "But aren't you worried they'll catch up?" He would brag about having plenty of lead in time. It is clear now that they'll be done with the published books by the end of Season 5. I'm not sure he'll have a sixth book out by then, much less a seventh for the following year.

That is why he is getting more aggravated when people tell him to finish up. He gave D&D the plot for the last two books in case something happened to him, but they're going to now ultimately use it and spoil the rest of the story for his readers.

I guess that is what happens when you take six years to write a book.

 

[Iceman]

Actually I do foresee Martin getting very angry about how this plays out. He used to joke every time someone asked, "But aren't you worried they'll catch up?" He would brag about having plenty of lead in time. It is clear now that they'll be done with the published books by the end of Season 5. I'm not sure he'll have a sixth book out by then, much less a seventh for the following year.

That is why he is getting more aggravated when people tell him to finish up. He gave D&D the plot for the last two books in case something happened to him, but they're going to now ultimately use it and spoil the rest of the story for his readers.

I guess that is what happens when you take six years to write a book.

Nothing to get angry about really, frustrated maybe. It's noone's fault. He's taken his time which, if he needed it, I don't blame him. His writing will move along at an unpredictable pace depending where his story ends up going and how naturally and easily everything fits together late on. If more strands keep popping up it will be harder and take longer to bring final closure and resolve everything neatly. The show on the other hand is like a ticking time bomb, moving on at a regular pace with annual updates clawing back the gap from the books.

 

[Solidus]

I think now he's focusing purely on ASOIAF. Before he was working on lots of different projects. I think he's further along then he's letting on now. I still think we will get TWOW this year.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This is definitely GRRM's fault. He could have focused on writing the last 3 years, and he has specifically chosen not to.

 

[Drz]

This is definitely GRRM's fault. He could have focused on writing the last 3 years, and he has specifically chosen not to.

Fault? On what part of his career choice and the way he lives is this a FAULT?

Just because some people decided to make an adaptation of his work, doesn't mean he is now somehow obligated to fan "demands".

Yeah i think the audio book guy kinda gave strong implications he's done majority of TWOW.

He's still doing side projects afaik, like the She-Wolves of Winterfell, as he completed Princess and the Queen novella. He's also working on that enclypedia book with the Westeros.org admins.

 

[Sawyer]

So, considering GRRM's pace, the show will conclude before the final book is released, how will they fix this problem? Will the show take a hiatus for an undefinitive time?

Simple. The final book in the series will now be considered a novelization of the show's final season(s).

 

[squeekness]

So, considering GRRM's pace, the show will conclude before the final book is released, how will they fix this problem? Will the show take a hiatus for an undefinitive time?

I recall reading in one of my magazines that Martin claims he gave HBO an outline -- sealed of course - for how he had planned to end the series to be used in the event of his sudden demise. I can only hope that it is true.

 

[Iceman]

Good practise. You guys might already know but that's what the Wheel of Time author did before the last book and regrettably he did die before it came out. But as he had all the notes ready his wife chose a fantasy author who happened to be a fan to finish it the way the guy would have wanted.