HBO's Game of Thrones - - Part 11

[Reek]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Pascal

 

[Roose Bolton]

The culture is Arab-esq, but the way the Dornish are described, Salty, Stoney etc the variety of their ethnicity was more akin to the Spanish.

 

[CaptainCanada]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Pascal

I don't know what you think that proves. White people can come from Chile, and he is a white Hispanic.

The culture is Arab-esq, but the way the Dornish are described, Salty, Stoney etc the variety of their ethnicity was more akin to the Spanish.

Yes, but Oberyn isn't a Stony Dornishman (who look pretty much like everybody else), he's from among the darker-hued Salty Dornish (not quite as dark as the Sandy Dornish).

 

[Reek]

why is this even an issue when he is clearly meant to be a different race.

 

[Ezio Auditore]

I believe GRRM himself stated that Dorne was inspirated in Spain's historical ethnicity as a whole. Meaning both the moorish western Spain and the "white" frank Spain in the east..... If that makes sense

Sorry for the english

 

[CaptainCanada]

why is this even an issue when he is clearly meant to be a different race.

Casting white people in roles for non-white actors is a rather persistent problem in Hollywood.

 

[Reek]

Casting white people in roles for non-white actors is a rather persistent problem in Hollywood.

you literally just said he was only half white.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I believe GRRM himself stated that Dorne was inspirated in Spain's historical ethnicity as a whole. Meaning both the moorish western Spain and the "white" frank Spain in the east..... If that makes sense

Sorry for the english

Exactly. It's always been that way, Stoney Dornishmen with lighter skin, Salty Dornishmen with Olive skin, and Sandy Dornishmen with very dark skin.

It's clearly inspired by Spain.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I am loving the idea of the added Craster's Keep material.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Casting white people in roles for non-white actors is a rather persistent problem in Hollywood.

It is only a problem if the actor isn't awesome in the role. If they cast the right actor in terms of performance, this is a non-issue imo.

You also need to tell me where you have seen Oberyn depicted as you have described. I just did a quick google search, and his depiction is pretty persistent.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I am loving the idea of the added Craster's Keep material.

I love that they're having Stan and Dav go to Braavos.

 

[CaptainCanada]

you literally just said he was only half white.

Uh, no I didn't. I said he was a white Hispanic. "Hispanic" isn't a race (despite often being used as if it is), it's a cultural umbrella. You can be a white Hispanic or a brown Hispanic or an Afro-Hispanic. He's a white Hispanic. Cameron Diaz is Hispanic, for instance.

It is only a problem if the actor isn't awesome in the role. If they cast the right actor in terms of performance, this is a non-issue imo.

No, it's not. "The right actor" is a fig leaf used to justify casting white people in the few roles that exist for non-whites. There's any number of right actors for any role. Whitewashing is not confined only to casting bad white actors -- what they did to Aang, Katara and Sokka in The Last Airbender would have been wrong even if the kids they cast had been good.

 

[Kane52630]

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[Sawyer]

The flattop never lies.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I love that they're having Stan and Dav go to Braavos.

Agreed. I think we are just loving Season 4 already.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No, it's not. "The right actor" is a fig leaf used to justify casting white people in the few roles that exist for non-whites. There's any number of right actors for any role. Whitewashing is not confined only to casting bad white actors -- what they did to Aang, Katara and Sokka in The Last Airbender would have been wrong even if the kids they cast had been good.

And I call bull. Did you lose your crap over Xaro Xhoan Daxos? How about Heimdall in Thor? You either call it both ways, or not at all.

And did you really just bring up Avatar? The movie that made an entire nation Indian just cause?

 

[Marvolo]

There was a lot of *****ing about the Martells not looking Persian enough or something. Which is idiotic because they're supposed to be Mediterranean.

First thing I thought when I saw the Dorne sets and Oberyn is how Mediterranean and Roman it all looked. Personally I always got an Arabian vibe from Dorne and the Martell's in the books, but I like the look they've went for so I don't mind.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

First thing I thought when I saw the Dorne sets and Oberyn is how Mediterranean and Roman it all looked. Personally I always got an Arabian vibe from Dorne and the Martell's in the books, but I like the look they've went for so I don't mind.

I like it all. Season 4 is looking as good as Season 1.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Agreed. I think we are just loving Season 4 already.

I feel an Emmy coming up for Coldhands t:

 

[Reek]

so how is he just a white actor cast in a foreign role if he is a mixed race?

seems rather perfect IMO.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I feel an Emmy coming up for Coldhands t:

I am feeling Emmy #2 Peter "Fracking" Dinklage.

 

[Reek]

and who the **** watched the last airbender

 

[Reek]

 

[Roose Bolton]

I am feeling Emmy #2 Peter "Fracking" Dinklage.

Sometimes I get the feeling that if D&D could put Tyrion in a wig to get him a best lead actress nom then they would lol



I hope we get some Nikolaj love in future seasons.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

so how is he just a white actor cast in a foreign role if he is a mixed race?

seems rather perfect IMO.

When you want to complain such things are trivial. We have an agenda!!!!

and who the **** watched the last airbender

I did. And I regret it. By the way, seeing the new Transformers, Katara grew up.